Jobs actually said just the opposite. He said that Leopard was an anchor to build on, he was pleased with 12 month release cycles and didn't want future releases to take as long as leopard but rather saw a return to a 12 month cycle.
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Mac OS X 10.6 to Debut at WWDC 2008?
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Jobs actually said just the opposite. He said that Leopard was an anchor to build on, he was pleased with 12 month release cycles and didn't want future releases to take as long as leopard but rather saw a return to a 12 month cycle.
Jan '09 is not by a couple of months its like a yr or 2. But I can't see it. Thats a huge release, no way they could pull it off in 15 months while working on iPhone. Especially since the signs point to less new features. Def. thing this is interim for next big jump which will be multi-touch. I guess hes trying to squeeze another update so there is not as much work for multi-touch cause I can already imagine thats a huge task.
I think Steve will mention 10.6 at WWDC, and make it a point to highlight the features (such as, 'touch' interface/gestures).
MWSF '09 is realistically where I see a full introduction of the new OS, with the usual 'available later this year' (as in October 2009).
MWSF '09 is realistically where I see a full introduction of the new OS, with the usual 'available later this year' (as in October 2009).
No, Apple did not say that at all. In fact, they said the exact opposite. After Tiger came out they said they would slow down and indeed they did. Once Leopard came out they said they were comfortable releasing new updates every 12 to 18 months so people need to get their facts straight. Steve Jobs said him self in October 07 that he wanted new versions every 12 to 18 months so a January 09 release would be spot on. Don't believe me? Read it for yourself.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ure_mac_os_x_upgrades_mac_sales_and_more.html
When would be a good time to start talking about it? There are two major events a year. Leopard was late, Apple is on a 12-18 month release schedule:
MacWorld '09 will be 14 months after the release of Leopard.
WWDC '09 will be ~19 months after the release of Leopard.
So really it seems WWDC '08 is the perfect time to give developers the inside track on 10.6. Ship in early '09, then they will have 10.7 ready just before or slightly after Microsoft might be ready with Windows 7, in the year 2010ish.
Mac haters have always told me that PCs are more secure because of that hacking contest. (Where the Mac got hacked it like 15 minutes, PC took a couple hours, and Linux took forever) It'd be nice if those people were 'proved' wrong with a new version of Mac OS X.
I have no idea what features Apple could add to 10.6. Maybe an option for a 2D or 3D (glass) dock. Maybe a feature where the icon for an open app (in the dock) would feature a preview of the window (like a minimized window) or a 'full screen' option for apps that hides the menu bar (but that's kind of pointless)
But I can't think of any big features like 'Spaces'. Maybe taps in finder? I think they should get rid of the remaining Aqua elements and fully replace them with the iTunes 7 look.
I have no idea what features Apple could add to 10.6. Maybe an option for a 2D or 3D (glass) dock. Maybe a feature where the icon for an open app (in the dock) would feature a preview of the window (like a minimized window) or a 'full screen' option for apps that hides the menu bar (but that's kind of pointless)
But I can't think of any big features like 'Spaces'. Maybe taps in finder? I think they should get rid of the remaining Aqua elements and fully replace them with the iTunes 7 look.
I wouldn't be surprised if we did see some sort of preview for 10.6 at WWDC. The iPhone SDK reinvents some significant parts of cocoa to leverage things like Core Animation. People complained when Leopard was delayed for the iPhone, but I imagine we will see the iPhone SDK bear fruits in the next version of the Mac OS.
Yah right. I wouldn't touch such an OS if you paid me $100. It would either be:
A. buggy as heck.
B. Nothing more then a slight facelift if being done in a little over a year.
If this is the case its simply a knee jerked reaction to MS's press release. Plus what with Apple being completely in the grips of iPhone fever I don't see them dropping the resources needed to speed such a release along.
A. buggy as heck.
B. Nothing more then a slight facelift if being done in a little over a year.
If this is the case its simply a knee jerked reaction to MS's press release. Plus what with Apple being completely in the grips of iPhone fever I don't see them dropping the resources needed to speed such a release along.
i wish they would come out with a new OS.. like 11.xx.... i mean i love apple and everything they do i just think its time to revamp the whole thing.... Isnt it way to early for a new OS?? whatever i know apple will do it right.. looking forward to it!!
The adult entertainment industry is waiting for OSXXX
I'd be willing to bet major bucks that one thing will be included that's not stability and security; Multitouch. They'll implement it in the OS and then the hardware will come to make it touchscreen on laptops and touchpad for desktops.
Dropping PC just plain ignorant
Apple dropping PPC in 10.6 does not compute.
That would be taking the beauty of the UNIVERSAL BINARY and throwing it out the window. UB keeps a door open for Apple to jump onto any new chip out there that might look more appealing.
IBM is far from dead in the PPC world. If the Power6 and Power7 work out as planned, it would make more sense for Apple to abandon the XEON chips and use the Powers in the Mac Pros.
Besides, every G5 chip out there in iMacs or Power Macs are more than capable of tearing apart an OS for at least 3-4 more years.
Apple dropping PPC in 10.6 does not compute.
That would be taking the beauty of the UNIVERSAL BINARY and throwing it out the window. UB keeps a door open for Apple to jump onto any new chip out there that might look more appealing.
IBM is far from dead in the PPC world. If the Power6 and Power7 work out as planned, it would make more sense for Apple to abandon the XEON chips and use the Powers in the Mac Pros.
Besides, every G5 chip out there in iMacs or Power Macs are more than capable of tearing apart an OS for at least 3-4 more years.
10.6 Leopard II
I;d like to definitely see Fast OS switching with the advancement of Virtual Machines & bootcamp, i think it might be possible.
ZTF also would make a great addition.
I;d like to definitely see Fast OS switching with the advancement of Virtual Machines & bootcamp, i think it might be possible.
ZTF also would make a great addition.
Lots of things can happen. The poster for WWDC says "Everything iPhone. Everything Mac." in it's subtitle. This could prove to be the best WWDC yet.
Then again, it could prove to be a H
GE letdown if nothing major is announced. LOL'beating win7 out of the gate'
They already have most of the work done, and currently have been testing touch on the iPhone and MacBooks for over a year now successfully...
Last time I checked Cocoa Touch was a part of Xcode and available to anyone, so even developers NOW know how to create apps that will work with new Mac Touch OS....
Am I the only one that sees this fact that is so blatantly obvious? The iPhone SDK is the beta for the 10.6 SDK....
They already have most of the work done, and currently have been testing touch on the iPhone and MacBooks for over a year now successfully...
Last time I checked Cocoa Touch was a part of Xcode and available to anyone, so even developers NOW know how to create apps that will work with new Mac Touch OS....
Am I the only one that sees this fact that is so blatantly obvious? The iPhone SDK is the beta for the 10.6 SDK....
I agree.
This thread has not produced much content (yet), but 10.6 is "very forward leaning".
10.5 was about portable compatibility and server side unix compliance.
10.6 will be about ZFS, media servers, cloud effects, server side V2.0, and wireless everything. It will be about new I/O schemas.
That said, all 10.x updates have to be backward compatible. If however the rumor is true that 10.6 is not backward compatible with PPC, which given Apple's history is entirely believable, one wonders what it is going to be compatible with going FORWARD?
Intel mobile, cloud services, palmtop supercomputers, 10.6 ON YOUR iPHONE 3.
Rocketman
Update: This new rumor confirms my claim.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/493741/
Apple made 10 more stable than 9 by eliminating plenty of features. 10.6 will kill many features of 10.5, making 10.5 the OS of the era alongside 10.4.11.
I agree. 10.5 is too new, and not stable enough for them to go full throttle into 10.6. This WWDC will be about the iPhone, and the MacBook Air.
to compete with windows 7 ? just wondering...
Also i hope that @ WWDC 08, Steve will introduce a new cool thing that will blow microsoft's multi-touch sensors away!
Also i hope that @ WWDC 08, Steve will introduce a new cool thing that will blow microsoft's multi-touch sensors away!
Err... care to elaborate on what that "ZTF" thing is?
Or are you talking about the new ZFS filesystem from Sun Microsystems?
In case it's really the ZFS filesystem you're talking about, yes, it would need a whole new release to be implemented... But, AFAIK, it is far from being usable and dependable for a full operating system as of yet, so I'm betting you'd have to wait for at least 10.7 to see it implemented.
By the way, while I'm at it, I, too, think it is premature to end PowerPC support. One thing is killing Classic, which was *really* old when they did so (OS X was introduced in the early 2000's, so they started phasing out Classic at least 7 years ago); the other is to end support for an entire platform which, frankly, still has some life to it, besides having been fully discontinued only two years ago. My four-year-old Rev.A G5 iMac, clocked at a "measly" 1.8 GHz, still shows a very decent performance under Leopard (better than some new PCs running Vista, I could argue).
Also, in Leopard, Apple revamped already quite a lot of the system's underpinnings, so a new release focused mainly on security, stability and the obvious marketable features (like Tiger was, for instance) which maintained PPC support would seem obvious to me.
Or Lynx
Either way, I agree, we'd need a couple more fixes before 10.6 can really be considered.
For WWDC '08 they will announce 10.6 (Lynx) and demo some of the upcoming features (multitouch, a new hypervisor, refreshed GUI, and a few other unique features)
There won't be a version released to developers yet, but in a "couple of months". They won't announce a release date, they never do. However, it will probably ship in March/April '09.
There won't be a version released to developers yet, but in a "couple of months". They won't announce a release date, they never do. However, it will probably ship in March/April '09.
so, let me get this straight: apple wants to update Mac OS X, but it's going to be the same thing as the current version only "more stable", and they're going to rebrand it Mac OS 10.6? um... wouldn't that be role of Mac OS 10.5.4? on top of all that drop PPC support?
if this turns out to be true, than it's official that Apple is becoming more and more retarded as the years go by.
if this turns out to be true, than it's official that Apple is becoming more and more retarded as the years go by.