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Mac OS X 10.6 to Debut at WWDC 2008?

It would be great if 10.6 focused more on features important to enterprise and admin-type needs. I know that's boring stuff for most users, but when you look at where Windows is in that regard compared to OS X, it's like night and day. I love OS X, but I wouldn't take it over Windows when it comes to admin work. There's just no contest. Apple talks a good game when it comes to these things, but their record leaves a lot to be desired.
 
inkswamp said:
It would be great if 10.6 focused more on features important to enterprise and admin-type needs. I know that's boring stuff for most users, but when you look at where Windows is in that regard compared to OS X, it's like night and day. I love OS X, but I wouldn't take it over Windows when it comes to admin work. There's just no contest. Apple talks a good game when it comes to these things, but their record leaves a lot to be desired.
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I agree that they should be more focused on the enterprise. I'd love built in Exchange support. However, I'd take OS X over Windows for admin work any day (and I do, everyday!).
 
Telp said:
I agree. 10.5 is too new, and not stable enough for them to go full throttle into 10.6. This WWDC will be about the iPhone, and the MacBook Air.
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They'll already be full throttle into 10.6. Development would have started before the release of Leopard. This is how it works. It's not a decision to be made.

WWDC is a developers conference, for developers of software. It will not be about the MacBook Air.

Software will be on the agenda, namely Mac OS X and iPhone OS. Probably version 6 and 2 respectively.
 
benlee said:
The first post and probably going to be the most reasonable. This Keynote address is going to be mostly iPhone related. But I do think there will be discussion of 10.6, I doubt they are going to release a paid version that is mostly security and stability. Thats what the free updates are for. Apple knows how to sell things and this scheme just doesn't seem like Apple.

I like TUAW, but sometimes I think they throw out crazy stories like this without any backing.

10.6 Feature that will be announced: Time Machine 2: Back to the Future.
Now you can go forward in time with your documents. Freeing up much needed time to download itunes movies and music and touch applications.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_os_x_puma
 
My suspicion is that they will just announce the code name for the next version of OS X after all a similar announcement was made for leopard the WWDC after Tiger was released.
 
Its not too soon

Its not too soon. Sure if 10.6 was to be released this year, but its not. Leopard was talked about at WWDC in 2006 and then 2007 and then released late 2007. So if Apple talks about 10.6 now, that makes sense. Then they can talk about it again in 2009 and release it.
 
I guess with Windows 7 rumored to be seeded or released in 09 Apple will amp it up. Also its probably gonna be just demonstration on concepts they want to introduce to the public, which is good they can get a feel on what was favored and what was hated.
 
The very fact that so many people here have said "No way" makes me assume that 10.6 will make an appearance. And like it or not people, Apple has already been working on 10.6 for a while now. It's not like they release 10.5.4 and then start working on the next major update. Not how things work.

I'm not saying a major preview or anything, but just some talking points about it. Give developers something to look forward to.

Also, concerning dropping PPC support, I don't think it will happen *this* soon, but people do know that Apple wants people to buy new machines, right? This would be a good way to force people to upgrade. It sucks that people are forced into this position at all (PPC -> Intel transition), but compare our situation to Vista users. Not that bad.
 
Please name it Ocelot! It's the coolest cat name, plus, WWDC is right around when Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out! :p
 
Maybe get Leopard running as well as Tiger, and then talk about a new version, Apple.

And also, please next time release updates that don't cause constant kernel panics to my Mac.

Thanks!
 
I'm calling BS on it being seeded.
I DO think they will show at least a lil something..
I'm sure it will be much more impressive than the windows 7 demo to say the least! ;)
 
Not supporting PPC is bunk! Intel Macs have only been out for 2.5 years. My PowerBook 12" still has PLENTY of mileage left on it... PLENTY!
 
what if?

What if they designed something like core graphics which alowed the OS to start using things like open GL?
 
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I'm thinking that apple is going to go in a new direction with their OS to make os7 look primitive yet again. I don't know how they will do it, but once they do it then yet again microsoft will have to play the catch up game.
 
WAY too early to create a new OS. Leopard's still not working completely as it should, so I can’t see PAYING for a new upgrade...at least til Leopard has been working RIGHT for a while. Unless it would be a FREE upgrade:)
 
I think they may integrate multi-touch into Leopard if and when they release a multi-touch display. Whos to say if this is a totaly new OS or just a revamp of leopard.:confused:
 
terryzx said:
WAY too early to create a new OS. Leopard's still not working completely as it should, so I can’t see PAYING for a new upgrade...at least til Leopard has been working RIGHT for a while. Unless it would be a FREE upgrade:)
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Some companies "can" walk and chew gum at the same time ;)

I'm sure the 10.6 team is cranking away and the 10.5 team is as well.

It does "feel" early but that's because Leopard was 4 months late. Clearly Apple had to shift some engineers from some depts and that likely caused the delay. Let us not forget that OS X shipped on two new platforms last year. The Apple TV and the iPhone. Now that those two products have seen a maiden voyage I expect that updates for all OS X versions to commence rather quickly

A Spring launch of 10.6 is in line with Jobs comments about OS refreshes. PPC support may be dropped and that would suck for some people but it sure would speed up testing and development not having to worry about legacy support. Leopard is a fine OS for PPC.
 
Sky Blue said:
I agree that they should be more focused on the enterprise. I'd love built in Exchange support. However, I'd take OS X over Windows for admin work any day (and I do, everyday!).
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Seriously? I do admin work for both OS X and Windows machines and OS X's limitations really irritate me sometimes. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating Windows. For every day stuff and my own personal work, I will always take a Mac, but when I do admin work, I get sort of bummed out that Windows has so many conveniences and so many little touches that make admin work much easier and OS X doesn't.
 
Amdahl said:
No, it is slowly becoming outdated. In case you hadn't noticed, CPU speeds maxed out a few years ago. The fastest G5 was 2.7Ghz, and the fastest Mac today still only does 3.2Ghz.
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The clock speed of a cpu does not tell you how much "work" a processor can do in a given amount of time. I went from a p4 2.4ghz to a core 2.0ghz and got an increase in performance. Manufactures have shifted away from simply ramping up the clock speed to increase performance.
 
I can't believe you guys didn't know about any of this. Ugh. 10.6 is going to be called orion, and is dropping powerpc support for brain-cell technology.;)
And for once apple is releasing an operating system, with NO new features.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Some companies "can" walk and chew gum at the same time ;)
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Yes, and Apple has repeatedly shown that it is not one of those companies. :p

The biggest example of this, of course, is the iPhone OS taking resources away from Leopard development. But you see it often with other Apple products: the company gets hot on one thing (iPod, iTunes, iPhone, etc), letting other products languish (Mac mini, enterprise products, .Mac, etc).

I think it may have to do with the fact that Steve Jobs is a control freak and likes to be personally involved in every project. It's not so much a lack of resources, or even poor resource planning; it's that Apple as a whole tends to focus more on the products that Steve is currently excited about. Other products suffer a lack of updates, until he either gets completely tired of them and kills them, or his excitement is suddenly renewed and Apple does a big, overdue update to them.

On the topic of this thread in particular: yes, Apple can and does develop for multiple versions of the OS at once. They've always made updates to the current or previous OS while the next one was in active development or recently released. But make no mistake: a shift in focus to 10.6 means that a majority of OS developers will be moved onto that project, leaving a much smaller group to continue updating 10.5. I, for one, think it's too soon to make that shift in resources. And it seems I have some company in that sentiment. ;)
 
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