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Mac OS X 10.7 Appearing in Web Logs, Dev Release at WWDC?
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I would have though 10.7 was about bring the Desktop OS closer to the Phone OS which is also moving Closer to the Desktop OS.
There is a Point they will merge and probably take on a whole new name.
So we might see a 10.8 and iPhone 0S 5 but i doubt it. I think the next update for each will be the last.
10.6 could well have been the last but i think there is still work to be done modernising the Interface for Desktop and modernising the backend for phone. I think we'll see that the two teams have swapped over when details of the next updates for each.
Or we could be surprised and they have faked the string for these logs and what is being preview at this weeks event is the merged OS with iPhone OS products including the new tablet to start using in the near future. Mac product lines to stay SL and transition next year about the time the next OS update would occur anyway.
There are plenty of Grand Central Dispatch applications. Any app using NSOperation is using Grand Central Dispatch. OpenCL will get used as more video cards support it.
It was never ment to be.
The good thing is that Snow Leopard cleaned up more problems than it caused. At least for me it did.
It will be interesting to see what 10.7 brings but to be honest I'm not in a hurry. I would mech rather see SL firmed up and kept stable for a couple of years. That to avoid having to go through a huge amount of software updating.
Dave
The good thing is that Snow Leopard cleaned up more problems than it caused. At least for me it did.
It will be interesting to see what 10.7 brings but to be honest I'm not in a hurry. I would mech rather see SL firmed up and kept stable for a couple of years. That to avoid having to go through a huge amount of software updating.
Dave
I don't know if you're matching his context. In the case of OS X, it's just a mascot cat name. The OS is going to be the same whether it's 10.7 Lion, 10.7 Bobcat or whatever. The name will be different, and the mascot on the DVD will be different, and that's about it.
I told you so. A year and 2 years ago. Who sucks more now?
Tiger is getting harder to use though, active app support for it seems to be fading or in legacy mode. iTunes, in particular, was getting pretty clunky in Tiger, seems to do pretty well in Leopard.
I kept using Tiger because I didn't want to mess with reconfiguring anything, and migration just didn't seem to work as well as it should have so I have to do it almost manually. Stuff I just don't care to deal with until problems arose.
Man, we barely touched 10.6.3....... Now 10.7? I hope it will be $29 again.
For me, I don't think it's the money that worries me, any time spent installing a new OS and working out even a single issue is time I'd rather spend doing something else.
Windowshade or something like it.
Like and expose style window that shrinks towards the closest screen corner. When you roll over it expands back to normal. Then shrinks again when it looses focus.
But some means of getting window out of our when not needed but not as disruptive as expose is very much needed.
Very important fact here worth repeating.
Responding simply to reinforce this fact. Any existing app that used NSOperation immediately took advantage of Grand Central Dispatch when SL came out. Depending on what was being done with NSOperation some apps ended up with significant performance gains.
SL under the hood fixes have significantly improved many programs. This can't be dismissed just because it isn't seen visually.
Dave
Responding simply to reinforce this fact. Any existing app that used NSOperation immediately took advantage of Grand Central Dispatch when SL came out. Depending on what was being done with NSOperation some apps ended up with significant performance gains.
SL under the hood fixes have significantly improved many programs. This can't be dismissed just because it isn't seen visually.
Dave
Copying things like multitouch gestures to the trackpad doesn't mean they are merging. Three factors being ignored here.
One, the already share lost of the foundations of the core OS. These are already shared so "merge" is the wrong connotation. Because on different release cycles some core features may wink on on one before the other ( low power mode , GrandCentral , etc. )
Second, there are still several MacOS X devices ( mini , XServe , MacPro ) that do not have an associated screens and/or trackpads. You still need an OS that is keyboard/mouse oriented for maximum flexibility. [ note: not everyone is going to buy a magic mouse. although that is a clever way to try to sneak a trackpad onto everything. ]
Three, with iPhoneOS vs. MacOS X Apple has a solid market segmentation device. If want devices less than $1000 you get iPhoneOS (with odd ball being the mini). If want devices more than $1000 you get MacOS X. Apple can use that barrier to get folks to pay more when need the flexibility that MacOS X enables.
Note that Microsoft tried to come out with a cheaper version of Win7 for netbooks ( would do only 4 concurrent apps or something like that). That bombed in part because it was Win7 crippled and got negative reaction to that. With iPhoneOS Apple already has a "can't run concurrent apps" OS and vast majority of folks are willing to deal with that. Remove that barrier and you remove the market segmentation.
iPhoneOS if deployed on a narrower range of hardware will be cheaper to sell since the QA process doesn't have to run over as wide a range of equipment and configurations. MacOS X will be more more robust in the hardware it is interacts with, but will be more expensive to buy.
So there are business and technical reasons not to merge the two. Makes lots of sense to share distinct components where advantageous; not merge .
Makes sense to me. I was so excited for Leopard and it was a shambles. Snow Leopard is like Leopard SP2 for all intensive purposes and is still not on par with what I expect from Apple. As much as a lot of you will hate to admit, Microsoft has done a great job with Windows 7, and Snow Leopard is still not what its cracked up to be. I sure hope that 10.7 will finally bring Apple back to the top of its game both in its interface and more importantly, stability!
I think Snow Leopard is more of a transitional OS from 32-bit Carbon based to ( pure ) 64-bit Cocoa based.
I must say I disagree with the current comments about SL and it having problems. I installed it Day One and havent had a single problem. In fact, across the board my system has been considerably faster, far more stable, and less resource demanding than it was during 10.5.
I cant think of a single Kernel Panic yet, but 10.5 would drop them on me almost once every two months.
I cant think of a single Kernel Panic yet, but 10.5 would drop them on me almost once every two months.
But then why didn't Apple kill support for the first generation x86-only Core Duo/Solo systems? And
why isn't x64 supported on all systems with x64 CPUs?
Maybe the tablet runs 10.7.
Should be a great first 6 months of 2010 from Apple.
Sorry but i doubt it lol, I expect the next version of OS X to get a mention, but no demo and the following WWDC next year it will get a Demo
I'd say Summer/Fall 2011 is more likely.
They're probably dropping support for all 32-bit machines (the ones with the CoreDuo's and CoreSolo's in them). Apple never sold a machine with a single core 64 bit processor, in that sense all single core Macs are being dropped, but because they are 32 bit, not single core.
Maybe the tablet runs 10.7.
Should be a great first 6 months of 2010 from Apple.
And maybe Microsoft Windows 7.10 will run on, well, whatever is at hand...
I know, MS did nothing to me to solicit my comment and M$ wasn't even in the post, sorry, I just couldn't help myself...
Should be a spectacular first 6 months of 2010 from Microsoft.
In keeping with the MS copy... Apple Stores - MS Stores, Apple Geniuses - MS Gurus, Apple retail locations - MS across the street... rdowns "great" to my "spectacular"... see I copied the flavor of the word without having to use the same word! It's all good!
Note entirely surprising
It does not surprise me that they started work so soon after the release of 10.6. I'm sure in a meeting in the wake of 10.6, they were already wondering what steps to take to make OS X even better.
I don't think that they will announce anything about it at WWDC. At earliest in about a year, in my opinion, and the earliest release would be next summer. That is an optimistic estimate even.
Then again, the Apple motto "Innovation Never Sleeps" is convincing evidence enough that Apple would launch a surprise attack on 7ista, especially now that they know what they are up against.
It does not surprise me that they started work so soon after the release of 10.6. I'm sure in a meeting in the wake of 10.6, they were already wondering what steps to take to make OS X even better.
I don't think that they will announce anything about it at WWDC. At earliest in about a year, in my opinion, and the earliest release would be next summer. That is an optimistic estimate even.
Then again, the Apple motto "Innovation Never Sleeps" is convincing evidence enough that Apple would launch a surprise attack on 7ista, especially now that they know what they are up against.
I hope 10.7 is Pure Cocoa.
Would make it slightly easier for Plugin makers... you know, apart from the performance and visual improvements.
Don't think it's coming so soon...
I mean, Apple still has to release a new iLife, a new Aperture, Logic, maybe even Final Cut. And there are still only few software which take full advantage of all this innovation in SL. Apple doesn't need to rush a new OS to market, since the one they have, once polished, will be more than stable for the next year or so. Apple should, instead, focus on the SOFTWARE: their own as well as third parties. ArchiCAD in 64 bit exists only for Windoze, not for Mac... Aperture hasn't been updated in AGES, Office is one of the most primitive software anyone can run on a Mac, iLife needs an update (particulary iWeb, with automatic iPhone sites, etc). iTunes could need an upgrade, TV and Movie content deals worldwide, AppleTV upgrade with games, content worldwide, appstore, internet integration, a lot of memory... Creating a market place for Macintosh computer and not only the fancy new devices Ive and Jobs create...
There is more than 10.7 in this moment, in my opinion (which I agree with) at least. Several other priorities...
I mean, Apple still has to release a new iLife, a new Aperture, Logic, maybe even Final Cut. And there are still only few software which take full advantage of all this innovation in SL. Apple doesn't need to rush a new OS to market, since the one they have, once polished, will be more than stable for the next year or so. Apple should, instead, focus on the SOFTWARE: their own as well as third parties. ArchiCAD in 64 bit exists only for Windoze, not for Mac... Aperture hasn't been updated in AGES, Office is one of the most primitive software anyone can run on a Mac, iLife needs an update (particulary iWeb, with automatic iPhone sites, etc). iTunes could need an upgrade, TV and Movie content deals worldwide, AppleTV upgrade with games, content worldwide, appstore, internet integration, a lot of memory... Creating a market place for Macintosh computer and not only the fancy new devices Ive and Jobs create...
There is more than 10.7 in this moment, in my opinion (which I agree with) at least. Several other priorities...
I'd imagine so. Wouldn't they want to know what information is in the rumor mill? I wouldn't be surprised if the higher ups took a peek as well (i.e. peter oppenhimer, CFO of apple, and possibly steve himself).
Mac OS 10.7
Snagglepuss
Features:
- Full system-wide screen resolution independence
- Support for Intel SSD TRIM
- New marble theme
- Improved spotlight and finder
- It's snappier
Coming May 2011.
$149.00 US
Snagglepuss
Features:
- Full system-wide screen resolution independence
- Support for Intel SSD TRIM
- New marble theme
- Improved spotlight and finder
- It's snappier
Coming May 2011.
$149.00 US