Mac OS X 10.7 Appearing in Web Logs, Dev Release at WWDC?

[-AG-]

I have only some wishes:

- A new file system would be nice (ZFS?)
- I would like, if I could change the overall font size and windows color
- build in file overwrite/merge, similar to Windows/Linux

The file overwrite/merge feature is the ONLY real thing that i want for 10.7 before i can fully recommend OSX to non mac users (aka stupid windows users).

Nothing more fun than having to try and recover files because they just copied and pasted the whole folder instead of the contents.

 

[autrefois]

Mac OS 10.7

Snagglepuss

They used to have Mighty Mouse, so why not?

 

[roosta]

remember when

OS X fit on a single cd?

 

[KingYaba]

heh. I wouldn't be surprised if they drop support for single-core machines.

Can't run our OS? Upgrade your hardware. Wait, can't do that. Have to buy a new computer.

 

[gorjan]

OS X fit on a single cd?

Remember when MSDOS came on three diskettes? Or Windows on 12?
So what, OS X fits a single DVD now, it's not like XBOX where a game comes on four DVDs.

 

[savar]

I don't think it makes so much sense to have your secret next generation product leaking out like that, user agent strings are easy to obscure. I really don't understand why web servers really need to know that information.

Why bother? All this reveals is that 10.7 is stable enough for *some* folks at Apple to be surfing the web with it. But it doesn't tell us anything about the OS itself.

 

[savar]

I really want to see

- TRIM
- Resolution Independence
- a better Flash implementation (3rd party software)
- the ability for cut & paste of files within the finder
- Quicktime BD
- some of the window features from Win7

The feature where you drag a window to the side of the screen and it automatically resizes to fit exactly half of the screen.

Not to steal MS's thunder, but that literally was *my idea*. Anyway I still think it's a good one. There is still not good support for working on very large screens (i.e. 24" and above). I am constantly resizing and re-arranging windows, when there are really only 2-3 configurations I actually like to use.

It would be cool to have an expose feature where you could highlight two windows, click a preset button, and OS X would resize and reposition the windows where you like them.

 

[Ca$hflow]

That's quick

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I'm not much of an analytics person, but when it says it's "Mozilla/5.0" then followed by "AppleWebKit/532.7.1 (KHTM L, like Gecko) Version/4.1 Safari/532.7.3"

Mozilla and Webkit aren't the same.

On the iPhone, Mozilla has to use Webkit.

Perhaps more exciting though, did anyone else notice the Safari 4.1?

 

[AidenShaw]

Can't run our OS? Upgrade your hardware. Wait, can't do that. Have to buy a new computer.

68K, 603, G3, G4, G5 -- all abandoned by 10.6's lack of PPC support.

x64-only is the next step, so those Core Duo and Core Solo machines are doomed as well.

I would have expected 10.6 to drop support for 32-bit processors, but it did support them.
I definitely think that the x86 kernel components will be missing from 10.7 - it will be x64-only.
(x86 application support will need to remain, as well as Carbon, to avoid breaking a huge number of applications.)

 

[codo]

A new file system is a given. Other changes that will come up with the total paradigm revolution brought about by the tablet:

- Multi-touch friendliness all over with a new trackpad-based keyboard;
- end of the pure desktop metaphor, with 3D interface elements all over, Time Machine-like feedback and camera-based gestures and actions;
- UI resolution independence;
- even more cloud-based services à la MobileMe;
- new UI colors and fonts;
- Finder revamp based on shareware IPR purchased by Apple (LaunchBar et al.);
- wireless video streaming to from iTunes/Mac to Apple TV;
- full support of OpenCL and GCD by developers;
- native Blu-Ray support.

Just wait and you will see...

You can keep your camera-based gestures - I can think of nothing worse than waving like a total moron at my computer. It's not a games console, thanks.

 

[Yamcha]

Thats great, can't wait :]

 

[cjmillsnun]

I'm not much of an analytics person, but when it says it's "Mozilla/5.0" then followed by "AppleWebKit/532.7.1 (KHTM L, like Gecko) Version/4.1 Safari/532.7.3"

Mozilla and Webkit aren't the same.

Hate to burst your bubble, but go to Safari Preferences, Advanced, Show Develop menu in menu bar and close preferences, then click on Develop, User Agent, Other and look at your User Agent String.

Mine is

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_2; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Safari/531.21.10

 

[elppa]

I think we all need to settle down with a hot or cold beverage and read (or re-read) this:

History of the browser user-agent string

And Apple built Safari, and used KHTML, but added many features, and forked the project, and called it WebKit, but wanted pages written for KHTML, and so Safari called itself Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; de-de) AppleWebKit/85.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/85.5, and it got worse.

And Microsoft feared Firefox greatly, and Internet Explorer returned, and called itself Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0) and it rendered good code, but only if webmasters commanded it to do so.

And then Google built Chrome, and Chrome used Webkit, and it was like Safari, and wanted pages built for Safari, and so pretended to be Safari. And thus Chrome used WebKit, and pretended to be Safari, and WebKit pretended to be KHTML, and KHTML pretended to be Gecko, and all browsers pretended to be Mozilla, and Chrome called itself Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13, and the user agent string was a complete mess, and near useless, and everyone pretended to be everyone else, and confusion abounded.

 

[Eric S.]

It does not surprise me that they started work so soon after the release of 10.6. I'm sure in a meeting in the wake of 10.6, they were already wondering what steps to take to make OS X even better.

OS work never stops. A release is just a moment in time; in the next moment the OS development is intended for the next release.

Why is this news? This is obvious.

Exactly.

I would be willing to bet that 10.7 and a Tablet are linked.

That would disappoint a lot of people who are expecting a tablet this week.

 

[greg400]

68K, 603, G3, G4, G5 -- all abandoned by 10.6's lack of PPC support.

x64-only is the next step, so those Core Duo and Core Solo machines are doomed as well.

I would have expected 10.6 to drop support for 32-bit processors, but it did support them.
I definitely think that the x86 kernel components will be missing from 10.7 - it will be x64-only.
(x86 application support will need to remain, as well as Carbon, to avoid breaking a huge number of applications.)

I'm all for dropping Core Duo support. One less computer I will have to constantly maintain and upgrade every week.

 

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

I think we all need to settle down with a hot or cold beverage and read (or re-read) this:

History of the browser user-agent string

My head hurts and I am confused more now than ever! lol

 

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

That would disappoint a lot of people who are expecting a tablet this week.

I doubt the tablet ships this week.

 

[HotApplePie]

I assume you're being sarcastic - if that's correct then I agree with you. The reasons for dropping PPC support are greater than just lack of user-visible features in 10.6, I'm afraid.

While current versions of OS X run on both 32 and 64 bit x86 processors (Snow Leo) and 32 bit RISC based processors (iPhone OS 3) and if rumors are right then some flavor of OS X will run on yet another 32 bit RISC based tablet it doesn't mean that current PPC machines will ever get a new OS. Though, I have to admit it would make very very happy to see something newer than Tiger on my G4 cube or Leo on my 12" PBG4

heh. I wouldn't be surprised if they drop support for single-core machines.

Core Solo, you're next! Upgrade or die, so says the Jobs!

Mac OS X Sabretooth would be cool.

I hope that would mean it lives up to the standard that Tiger set!

 

[Eidorian]

I'm all for dropping Core Duo support. One less computer I will have to constantly maintain and upgrade every week.

If you go all the way back to 2006, Core Duo should have never happened on the Mac. We should have also been enjoying the performance benefits of Conroe and the later LGA 775 processors too.

 

[Eric S.]

I doubt the tablet ships this week.

Well if it doesn't ship before mid-2011, which is about when we're likely to see 10.7, there will be a lot of disappointment and frustration.

 

[Peace]

Well if it doesn't ship before mid-2011, which is about when we're likely to see 10.7, there will be a lot of disappointment and frustration.

What does 10.7 have to do with the device?

 

[joueboy]

Yearly Update!

Apple can make it a yearly update and charge us for another $30. Something that I'm hoping that they should do again. They're still profitable this way and eventually encourage more switchers and stay away from expensive premium Windows update. This will change the general notion about Apple premium tax for their hardware that creates a bad image for Apple.

 

[doctoree]

So it was called "Intel Mac OS X 10_7"....
Thats intersting. Maybe Apple is finally working on their own CPUs?

 

[flopticalcube]

So it was called "Intel Mac OS X 10_7"....
Thats intersting. Maybe Apple is finally working on their own CPUs?

How do you make that conclusion?