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Snow Leopard's features of GCD, OpenCL- we're waiting for the software, and updated hardware. Time will bring both, and 10.7. Who knows- we might get some hints from what happens to OS 4 for iPhone/Tablet come 3 days time, and more at WWDC
 
Since iPhone development ramped up, Apple has delayed one desktop OS release twice (10.5) and shipped a less-resource intensive "maintenance release” with 10.6.

If they haven’t figured out how to manage their engineering resources by now … shame on them.

Microsoft’s current roadmap has Windows 8 launching in early 2012. Apple will want to beat that. If 10.7 doesn’t come in Spring 2011, it’ll come in Fall 2011.

Nobody can perfect the management of resources, it's a never-ending battle that requires constant adjustments. Even MS with it's huge engineering resources had bad starts despite the maturity of the company.

Management isn't the only issue, it's the resources that I'm talking about. If you have same resource pool but add on more projects, the two things you can expect are longer cycles or if you mandate same release cycle, expect lower quality release.

If my research are fairly accurate, Apple hasn't expanded that much in engineering resources in recent years (majority of the increases were for retail employees in the last few years).
 
10.6 is probably the worst 10.x since 10.0. Lots of problems and unhappy people.

People want things to "just work" again, not new eye candy and rearranging of the GUI.

WHY DON'T YOU FIX WHAT YOU STARTED/BROKE BEFORE STARTING SOMETHING NEW????!!!!!!!:mad:

I have been a Mac user for 18 years. The Mac experience used to be far superior and things truly did "just work".

Not any more.

My patience with Apple is wearing thin....

Here is the problem with your post. Most of what "broke" was simply SL not supporting the old crufty junk, APIs, and so on that old stuff relied on. So what you're advocating is Apple putting support back in for old APIs, old crufty code and mechanisms?
 
Having 32-bit support doesn't hurt as long as 64-bit is full.
In a way it does, since it means two codepaths that have to be maintained. Every person working on keeping 32bit binaries functioning is one less person working on making 64bit even better.
 
mmmm... Mac OS 10.7? Tablet rumors going out of control... iPhone OS 4.0? this is abunch of stuff that are ending in non-sense tech news already. Let's wait for the 27th ok? stop the rumors already. please. ooh this is a site for rumors called MacRumors??? ok, keep bringing them. sorry. :p
 
Extra work compared to IT JUST WORKED in Tiger.

I might was well not use Cmd + Space then and always use a Smart Folder in the sidebar. I've been toying with that for years though.

Show All in Spotlight is just a disgrace now though.

I completely agree. It’s worthless now. It never finds what I want it find.

Why it doesn’t always sort by file name first, I’ll never know.

The first result for “Blue” using the default “Contents” is:

01 Waiting for the World to Change.m4a (Music)

And Blue.txt is like 17 pages down.

So you would think sorting by “File Name” would make it better right?

It does but since it doesn’t follow Spotlight preferences in the “Show All” dialog box, Blue.txt is found about 4 pages down, buried under a bunch of music that begins with 01, 02, 03, etc.

If I don’t use the “kind:” command and manually select “File Name,” every single time, Spotlight’s Show All is useless.

And while we’re bitching about Spotlight, I would like a way to re-order dictionary definitions so they are closer to the bottom of the results window.
 
That interface was much better than what it has been since Leopard. I also miss this from Tiger.
I love Quick Look and Time Machine. Finder can't seem to remember window size though or keep it consistent ever since Tiger though.

DS_Store also has its own baggage that's affecting me from what I've come to learn from a programmer friend of mine.

I completely agree. It’s worthless now. It never finds what I want it find.

Why it doesn’t always sort by file name first, I’ll never know.

The first result for “Blue” using the default “Contents” is:

01 Waiting for the World to Change.m4a (Music)

And Blue.txt is like 17 pages down.

So you would think sorting by “File Name” would make it better right?

It does but since it doesn’t follow Spotlight preferences in the “Show All” dialog box, Blue.txt is found about 4 pages down, buried under a bunch of music that begins with 01, 02, 03, etc.

If I don’t use the “kind:” command and manually select “File Name,” every single time, Spotlight’s Show All is useless.

And while we’re bitching about Spotlight, I would like a way to re-order dictionary definitions so they are closer to the bottom of the results window.
That's exactly how I feel. :D

If they brought back the Tiger Spotlight Show All I'd buy a Mac this minute. I'm serious.
 
Oh, no, not the "Marble" rumor again. Remember "Illuminous" that was supposed to be in Leopard?
Remember when we all sat around dinking with copland icons in anticipation of the real thing.
 
WindowShade please!

I was so disappointed by Snow Leopard that I migrated back to Leopard and I'm still there today. Not only because of the bugs and slowdowns in SL, but also because I desperately need WindowShade.
So, Apple please, include WindowShade as a built in feature in the next OS!!
 
Apple needs to get the rest of there apps redone to work with SL properly. Working on 10.7 this early is BS when SL sucks so bad. Apple is starting to remind me of microsoft. Just push it out to make money. There quality is not very good lately.
 
For those wanting the snap to maximise a screen fully, or snap to maximise to half screen size to do a side by side - I'd recommend Cinch.
Didn't think to much about it till I reheard about it - but i'm using it a lot - Apple needs to add this. (Windows also got that linux/Ubuntu style minimise screen by moving the mouse to a corner/clicking on a small tab (of say 4 tabs) in the bottom right.
 
two words:

Clouded Leopard

apple is going to go for a power move. announce 10.7 next week with "cloud" support features and marble interface to be compatible with tablet. 10.7 will be released as a free update sometime this year. more records will be made with mac and iphone sales, not to mention an entirely new product. thats my guess anyway. if you have any extra money i'd suggest buying as much AAPL as you can get.
 
What's the difference?

There is a difference, kinda . . I always wondered what would happen when they ran out of cat names lol. Not to mention, it seems they have worked their way upward somewhat in terms of power/performance to go along with the type of cat. How can you graduate to lion, the king of the jungle to go back down to ocelot? Lol, just a thought.
 
Oh, no, not the "Marble" rumor again. Remember "Illuminous" that was supposed to be in Leopard?

The difference is that Illuminous was not a credible rumor, afaik someone just made it up. Marble was sourced from a couple of people, including ourselves.

arn
 
Too many operating system changes in too short a time.

Which means to constantly deal with OS bugs.

10.6 still has lots of them and there's 10.7 already on the way?


I mean it's nice to get the next generation, but I hope that next time won't be a beta release like this time.

Or I'll simply wait for 10.7.5, or later.

I upgraded to 10.6.2, which was too soon.
 
While it is agreed that 10.7 was my idea ;), I welcome it for another reason.
Those of you old enough to be original Star Trek fans, know that the even movies were the better ones (of course the 10th being the exception). I have adopted that strategy with OSX but using the odd number system. My house still runs on 10.5x and will continue to until 10.7.1 at which time we shall convert.
Only the rich or the young can continue to buy each and everyone, doing so can make you a bit of a slave to the machine-which is why I own Macs anyway-to not be a slave to the machine.
I hope that 10.7 has all the bestest of super duperness and that it loads great the first time. Amen.:D
 
I think that we'll see a new interface at the same time as we'll see resolution independence, as both are closely related.

Apple introduced in Leopard a new native UI framework called CoreUI. It can handle vector based interface widgets, and it does include the assets needed to recreate a vectorized Aqua interface.

The thing is, this feature hasn't been turned on in either 10.5 nor 10.6. You can see the vectorized interface by changing the resolution scale using developers tool to something other than 1.0x, or by using some commands that forces OS X to use the vectorized UI at 1.0x (I'm the guy that found these commands awhile ago...), but the result buggy and incomplete even when using Apple's own apps.

Normally in 10.5 and 10.6, at 1.0x scale, Aqua is rendered by a messy mix of the old HIToolBox Extras.rsrc file and some intermediary bitmap-based part of CoreUI from a file called SArtFile.bin.

So currently in 10.6, the Aqua interface framework is a patchy hack that's somewhere in between the old and the new UI framework. Before Apple decides to implement a brand new interface to replace Aqua, it will have to complete the transition to full CoreUI, which will be resolution independent.

A new interface, along with a complete transition to CoreUI doesn't guarantee that resolution independence will be in 10.7, but it's a required step before developers can really start to adapt their apps for RI.

And that's the bad side of a transition to resolution independence, apps have to be modified so they don't glitch when used at different scaling factors. At least, that was the case the last time Apple urged devs to prepare for RI (which was supposed to happen somewhere in 2008). Maybe Apple has decided to find a way so that unmodified apps will run in some special bitmap zoom mode, making the transition much easier for users.

While we did see some noticeable interface changes in Snow Leopard, I think that it's obvious that Apple decided to put all their efforts into rewriting a lot of the OS foundations and putting aside all the major interface changes until 10.7. Apple must have some eye-popping stuff planned for 10.7, they won't do what they did with Snow Leopard twice in a row...
 
With 10.5 and 10.6 there were around 650 days between the previous OS release and the successor release date.

Assuming Apple holds to that schedule, 10.7 would ship in the Spring 2011 time frame.

My guess would be closer to Fall 2011. ( an arrival rate of every 2 years ). That gives them two WWDCs to distribute the candidate at. First one when it is flux and the second one when very close to final candidate (and for folks who don't want to deal with flux to start to take more seriously. ) That allows them to deliver software that is more stable and more tested ( since they refuse to do public betas. )

If Snow Leopard was a "stability" release if the next one is doing something to move the curve it should take longer to reach a stable state.
Plus software vendors don't really want the OS to mutate so fast. With a every 2 year arrival rate, you can learn about new stuff at the first WWDC play with it a bit and then in the second year WWDC learn what is ready for prime time and what the collective lessons to be learned are. Developers would also have time to solidly weave it into your bleeding edge software builds. You can spend to first year making sure the new stuff you already had planned isn't going to run into any compatibility bugs.

So you get not only more stable OS software every two years but more stable new releases too. ( assuming everyone does their job in terms of quality control )
 
Too many operating system changes in too short a time.

Which means to constantly deal with OS bugs.

10.6 still has lots of them and there's 10.7 already on the way?


I mean it's nice to get the next generation, but I hope that next time won't be a beta release like this time.

Or I'll simply wait for 10.7.5, or later.

I upgraded to 10.6.2, which was too soon.



My understanding (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that Apple has several OS Dev teams, it's quite possible that 10.7 started development before 10.6 betas were even out. and although 10.8 may not have any code written yet I'd guess there's folks already at the drawing board.
 
So basically 10.6 Snow Leopard was just a minor teaser as they were working on 10.7, and that's why it was so cheap and only under-the-hood stuff?


Possibly.
 
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