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Any UI changes should be purely optional. Also, OSX already has inertial scrolling...so how is this any different?

Either you didn't read the article fully or you've never used an iPhone or iPod Touch or both or all of the above. :p
 
It would be very hot if they had the minimalistic scroll bars and they would only fade in and out when you brought the mouse over to the right edge.
 
Do you guys really think you wont be able to click the new scrollbars? Was Apple born yesterday and going to screw up a simple scroll bar that has been around since the beginning of time?

It will just disappear when its not hovered over, and have a different look, but the exact same functionality. Its a scroll bar, not rocket science.

I assume you guys also dont have the dock disappear when its not hovered over... Is it scary when it disappears?? :D
 
One Windows 7 feature I wanna see is the Snap feature, it lets you put the windows side by side, which is awesome..
 
ios scroll bars would be ridiculous in OSX if they disappeared when not in use, I could understand it in a small device like the iphone where space is a premium, but on a mac this isn't a problem, at the moment you can tell in a glance where abouts you are in the document and how long the document is, why take this functionality away?

i never actually look at scroll bars, but i imagine they would re-appear onMouseMove
 
uh oh, the nerds who fear change will come out of the woodwork

sounds good to me. Apple are (OBVIOUSLY) far better at interface design than I/we are, so I'm sure it will be a nice evolutionary change, just like most changes to OS X have been

don't be nerds, guys

Excuse me?! Don't fear change. I've cutting edge adopted every new system OS Apple has introduced since OS 6x - even on machines they weren't supposed to be compatible with. The progress of OSX has been tremendous. But I actually work for a living with the Mac. It's not just a 'cool toy'. A finger will never be more accurate than a mouse.

I think positive excitement over such a dubious 'improvement' is silly. Let's see some real, useful cross integration take place in the new OS.
 
Good. Aqua is 10 years old, it's time to move onto something that's more modern and less obtrusive.
 
Excuse me?! Don't fear change. I've cutting edge adopted every new system OS Apple has introduced since OS 6x - even on machines they weren't supposed to be compatible with. The progress of OSX has been tremendous. But I actually work for a living with the Mac. It's not just a 'cool toy'. A finger will never be more accurate than a mouse.

I think positive excitement over such a dubious 'improvement' is silly. Let's see some real, useful cross integration take place in the new OS.

I also work for a living on a (few) Macs and agree on the finger vs. mouse. I plug a pretty precise mouse into my MBP because of it.

this minor and mostly aesthetic interface tweak will not change any of that
 
This would make a lot of sense for Apple to implement the iOS scroll bars. I never use the scroll bar anymore, who would with the multi-touch trackpad and the magic mouse? At least for me I just use inertial scrolling on both my iMac and Macbook Pro. I can't remember the last time I used the scrollbar. That's old dated technology for people that use Windows. I'll be so glad when that UGLY UGLY UGLY aqua scrollbar goes away. That in itself would make me upgrade to the new OS.
 
iOS Scrollbars?
I would seriously pay the full upgrade price just for this one feature.

I'd even buy a new computer if 10.7 isn't compatible with my generation 1 Macbook.

I really, really hope this rumour is true.
 
Yeah, Apple needs to bin the aqua theme, although I do really like it, its been around since Mac OS 10.. Its about time for a change..
 
So basically they would do away with the scroll bar!? It's kind of nice knowing where you are on the page... Plus what if you want to grab the scroll bar and move it down? I can't see Apple adding this iOS feature to Mac OSX. People with 3rd party mice with no scroll wheel would be a bit upset lol
 
iOS Scroll bars for the win inside OSX. As you can see with the attached Screenshot, this mail app I use has them. And they are very minimal, only on hover to they show up. They save about 10px of the design out of the way. A+ for this if it's true.

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Clean, minimal, and fresh, I love it. I must say, these aqua scroll bars do not go good at all with the brushed metal theme, but it might for some who like color.


On another note, someone explain this concept of elastic scrolling to me? Is that the same as inertial?
 
Okay maybe I'm missing it but what's the point of rubber-banding?

It's the OS acknowledging the users desire to scroll further. In a way the OS is saying... "I know what you want to do, but see, there isn't anything for me to show you."

If you scroll with your mouse now, at the end of the page nothing happens to confirm your input if you keep scrolling past the ends.

Is this 100% necessary, probably not, but its an :apple:-style refining touch though.
 
Seeing how Apple stripped down QuickTime to basically a floating video window with controls on demand, I can see this happening. The iOS scrollbar is big enough that you can still click and drag it about, if you still do that sort of thing.
 
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