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Ocelot has already been used. Lynx is an Atari trademark, and I'd assume Wildcat is owned by 3dLabs.mac-er said:
Bobcat? Ugh. Lion? Ugh.
Oh, and Cougar is another name for Puma - which IIRC has been used, too. [edit] Sort of -- Panther.
-what about a true cocoa multitaskting Finder.
-A revamp network browsing and a workgroup setting in the pref pane.
-A better X11 integration would be much welcome too.
-A new appz launcher ala Dragthing/Dropdrawer/Quicksilver.
-built-in DesktopManager (multi desktop, for those who can't afford a second montitor or for portable on the road).
-EsperanceDV (RAM disk, with the 64 bit computer it's more interesting then ever).
-Sharepoint, ability to set some share folder.
-3D desktop effect, ala coolbackground, 2D image are so 90'
-Quicktime Pro include in the OS, the normal version is...yeah you already know
-iAppz for 3D modeling would be sweet. Do your little Caracteres for iMovie. More for iLife, but still so.
-iChat with MSN support
-Universal language Dictionnary (yeah that's right there's other language then english out here)
for a first though is what come to my mind. Give me this and I will feel like it's heaven.
-A revamp network browsing and a workgroup setting in the pref pane.
-A better X11 integration would be much welcome too.
-A new appz launcher ala Dragthing/Dropdrawer/Quicksilver.
-built-in DesktopManager (multi desktop, for those who can't afford a second montitor or for portable on the road).
-EsperanceDV (RAM disk, with the 64 bit computer it's more interesting then ever).
-Sharepoint, ability to set some share folder.
-3D desktop effect, ala coolbackground, 2D image are so 90'
-Quicktime Pro include in the OS, the normal version is...yeah you already know
-iAppz for 3D modeling would be sweet. Do your little Caracteres for iMovie. More for iLife, but still so.
-iChat with MSN support
-Universal language Dictionnary (yeah that's right there's other language then english out here)
for a first though is what come to my mind. Give me this and I will feel like it's heaven.
Heh... my thoughts exactly. Surely this was somehow intentional--I know if I was thinking of a code name for this kind of change I'd try to use sommething clever like that even if marketing had nothing to do with it.Applespider said:Is OS X 10.5 called Leopard just so the Apple marketing team can do a
"Apple on Intel; here's one leopard who's changed his spots" strapline?
My big hopes, personally, are for complete resolution independance and a more consistant GUI, pretty much like everybody else. Some tricky killer new features would be nice, but those are all I really care about.
Actually, though, a Windows-style system-level rollback/uninstaller would be useful too, particularly on server systems. It's obviously not necessary for the majority of programs, which can be "uninstalled" by dragging the thing to the trash (man, I love telling PC converts that that's all it takes), but for some system-modifying apps and OS updates, a rollback would be nice. Maybe something that removes all the associated prefs/Application Support items/etc along with the app, too.
I'm a little unclear on this--you certainly COULD need a "reverse Rosetta" to allow people with older (read: PPC) Macs to run non-fat (x86-only, that is) binaries. The question is whether Apple will bother doing this, or just hope that every developer sticks exclusively to fat binaries until the PPC is good and dead, which won't realistically be until probably 2009 or 2010, maybe longer depending on how slow advances in processors come (after all, the P4 has only bumped a few hundred MHz in the past two years).GFLPraxis said:
I certainly hope Rosetta works both ways, but I doubt it will.
Applespider said:Is OS X 10.5 called Leopard just so the Apple marketing team can do a
"Apple on Intel; here's one leopard who's changed his spots" strapline?
I surely hope they don't use that
Good for a tar, though....
D
I was thrilled that Steve divulged Mac OS X Leopard's release frame, especially with the "I'll see you all here next year where we'll have some great things to show you in Leopard" or whatever. I like Tiger (quirks and all) but I love the constant push forward that Apple has with OS X and didn't want to see it stall. In my mind, November 2006 would be the perfect release date for Leopard - just in time for holiday shopping.
The part where Steve lined up all of the OS X releases and then said "And of course, in this time Microsoft released Windows XP" summed it up perfectly.
The part where Steve lined up all of the OS X releases and then said "And of course, in this time Microsoft released Windows XP" summed it up perfectly.
cgratti said:
I agree, and I personally like lion.
However they are going to need to come up with ALOT more cats. Steve said today that the transition to OSX was one that would last them 20 years!
It may be time to find an new animal...... Timberwolf anyone?
One thing I would expect to see in Leopard is arbitrary file annotation through Spotlight 2.0. You can add random labels to things in Spotlight Comments, but real annotation would be the ability to add your own custom fields and label them.
I could create a field for some Photoshop files called "Priority" and give them a value of "Urgent." Then search in Spotlight with ".psd priority:urgent". Then save the results as a Smart Folder on my desktop. Imagine the elaborate queries and Smart Folders that professionals could create to track the projects they're working on.
Spotlight could be expanded to allow you to create relationships between things. "These e-mails are connected to this person's address book entry, whose picture is here in this folder on my USB drive." Apple could let you click and drag dotted lines to connect the files, perhaps. Through years of use, the OS would have these fully constructed relationships and be able to give context to things. You could pull up all files associated with a particular address book entry, or anything connected with a certain picture. You could even connect to non-files, like associating a scanned picture of a DVD cover on your desktop to a mounted DVD disc, or connecting to an icon in System Preferences. It would be great for everything to be truly object-oriented like that. Imagine doing a Get Info on a file and clicking a button to get a mini-flowchart of all things connected to it.
I bring up these features because not only are they really, really cool, but they're what Microsoft is trying to achieve with WinFS which will come out a year after Leopard. Another chance to one-up Microsoft.
I could create a field for some Photoshop files called "Priority" and give them a value of "Urgent." Then search in Spotlight with ".psd priority:urgent". Then save the results as a Smart Folder on my desktop. Imagine the elaborate queries and Smart Folders that professionals could create to track the projects they're working on.
Spotlight could be expanded to allow you to create relationships between things. "These e-mails are connected to this person's address book entry, whose picture is here in this folder on my USB drive." Apple could let you click and drag dotted lines to connect the files, perhaps. Through years of use, the OS would have these fully constructed relationships and be able to give context to things. You could pull up all files associated with a particular address book entry, or anything connected with a certain picture. You could even connect to non-files, like associating a scanned picture of a DVD cover on your desktop to a mounted DVD disc, or connecting to an icon in System Preferences. It would be great for everything to be truly object-oriented like that. Imagine doing a Get Info on a file and clicking a button to get a mini-flowchart of all things connected to it.
I bring up these features because not only are they really, really cool, but they're what Microsoft is trying to achieve with WinFS which will come out a year after Leopard. Another chance to one-up Microsoft.
I suppose I would include in my wishlist for Leopard the following:
Shoot, half of that looks like a wishlist for future updates to Tiger (especially the first one, Grrr!). Oh well, I guess since I'm back on Panther, Tiger still seems like the next big thing for me. Not that I wanted to whine or anything...
- Runs for more than 2 days without a kernel panic on my G4, unlike Tiger. Actually, I take that back. 10.4.2 had better include this "feature"...
- Pretty much everything John Siracusa suggested in his massive Tiger review. This guy really needs to work for Apple!
- Spotlight features I was hoping for in Tiger but aren't there:
- Indexing offline media like backup discs (this would be HUGE and not difficult)
- Reliable periodic indexing of networked volumes (only enabled by advanced users at the command line) - again not difficult to do now.
- Better heuristics for determining what unknown file types get indexed as plain text.
- Smart Folders implemented at the filesystem layer of the kernel, as they should have been from the start. Then any app could take advantage of them without being rewritten or even recompiled.
- Yeah, true multi-threaded Finder would be nice so when one network connection goes out to lunch, the rest of Finder still works.
- New "Wow" feature like Expose, Dashboard, ??? What'll it be?
Shoot, half of that looks like a wishlist for future updates to Tiger (especially the first one, Grrr!). Oh well, I guess since I'm back on Panther, Tiger still seems like the next big thing for me. Not that I wanted to whine or anything...
Anybody else think that Steve should have left the announcement of Leopard as his "one more thing" in the keynote?...
GFLPraxis said:
Laziness? Elitism? Lack of test hardware? Ignorance?
That's one thing I'm afraid of. Hopefully the vast majority of developers will continue to check that box for the next 4-5 years if not longer. But what about those who don't? Could suck for those of us who don't want to upgrade just yet.
I guess at some point old hardware will no longer run new software - that's inevitable. I have an 8 1/2 year old Mac that's still trucking along with OS 8.6 to run my home recording studio apps. No way it could run OS X - that's what I got my G4 Power Mac and G3 iBook for. And I suppose both of those machines will see the same thing at some point - new software that's either Intel-only, or possibly just doesn't run on their generation of hardware anymore. Hopefully that day is later and not sooner.
GFLPraxis said:
Well have you tried building something with the Intel box checked yet? I tried last night and got about 20 error messages because none of my Frameworks are compiled for Intel. So down the line if Frameworks start coming out without PowerPC binaries, I think that would probably cause people not to check to box.
Plus if the program was optimized for Intel, that would also keep the devs from checking the box. (I suspect some games may be this way?)
James Philp said:
Nice. Now, someone make a Zelda widget ;D It would actually be funny to play a GBA Zelda on a widget and the game would simply be paused when the widget isn't active.