Mr. Anderson said:
Just two words: Universal Binaries. OSX already has Altivec on or off depending on the configuration. This shouldn't be too much different from that.
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Just two words: Universal Binaries. OSX already has Altivec on or off depending on the configuration. This shouldn't be too much different from that.
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I know I am late in the day on this thread (I have weak excuses that involve too much alcohol) but why did the Kipling reference take until post no.18??Applespider said:Is OS X 10.5 called Leopard just so the Apple marketing team can do a
"Apple on Intel; here's one leopard who's changed his spots" strapline?
Savage Henry said:
...the Kipling story was about how the Leopard got his spots wasn't it? Although I suppose he got them after changing his hunting spots so it still fits. It was always one of my favourite Just-So stories, along with the Rhinoceros and his wrinkly skin...
Mac OS X Leopard. What an utterly dire name. The cat thing has spawned only one truly good name - Panther. Cougar will be another good one. But Leopard? I can't put into words how bad I think it is.
The 'leopard changing its spots' won't happen, because as Jobs himself said to CNBC yesterday, the PPC->Intel switch isn't anywhere near as dramatic as most people are imagining. It's a big thing for developers and the technically minded, but for the user, it's going to be pretty much seamless.
The 'leopard changing its spots' won't happen, because as Jobs himself said to CNBC yesterday, the PPC->Intel switch isn't anywhere near as dramatic as most people are imagining. It's a big thing for developers and the technically minded, but for the user, it's going to be pretty much seamless.
True ... I believe the 'spot change reference does come from the Bible but I always found there to be a kinda Kipling-esque depth to the quote, and that gives me a warm affectionate feeling inside that warms me to the intel move .... it probably wasn't what Steve wanted, but it worked for me.Applespider said:
No doubt in my mind Leopard will run on PowerPC machines. I wonder however if all the code from here on out will be geared towards improving optimization on the Intel instead of the PowerPC.
I mean going from 10.4 to 10.5 might actually slow down a PowerPC machine if they focus on Intel from here on out. It will be interesting to see.
I mean going from 10.4 to 10.5 might actually slow down a PowerPC machine if they focus on Intel from here on out. It will be interesting to see.
I would like to see 10.5 substantially expand on Spotlight. Someone mentioned improving Finder. And Apple at the keynote mentioned how Spotlight was killing 20 years of the folder metaphor. So let's really kill it. Start with spotlight and smart folders. Build into it some of the conceptual elements of the project manager in MS Entourage, and I would like to see a whole new take on the file system, that allowed me to effectively group my projects across all kinds of applications.
I can see all that happening. Right now I adopt a kinda laterally-structured thought process to my searches to achieve the same thing. Admittedly it's easly with my already well laid-out home file system, but, Man, would I love to see such a new system on my work PC.mkrishnan said:Build into it some of the conceptual elements of the project manager in MS Entourage, and I would like to see a whole new take on the file system, that allowed me to effectively group my projects across all kinds of applications.
Savage Henry said:
I'm starting...I used to very methodically save journal article PDFs, and now I just give it a simple name that comes to mind quickly and spotlight it.
I still name document files more carefully cuz I send them outside to the spotlight-dark world.
In 3 years time I'll quote this to you and you will laugh at such a notional concept ......mkrishnan said:...spotlight-dark world.
/grins impishly and slinks into the shadows surrounded by the sound of the manical laughter of a world power/
I think Leopard is awesome, although Cougar would of been nice. Also Lion does sound awfully generic and unoriginal, but then again it is the King of the cats.
Also, I can't really think of any major upgrades in Mac OS 10.5 Leopard beside upgrades to Spotlight. Could someone give suggestions. Also if someone could tell me the significance of the independent resolutions, that would be great.
Also, I can't really think of any major upgrades in Mac OS 10.5 Leopard beside upgrades to Spotlight. Could someone give suggestions. Also if someone could tell me the significance of the independent resolutions, that would be great.
since this is a Leopard discussion thread
Since this is a Leopard discussion thread here is something i'd like to see. When i pair my laptop and my bluetooth refridgerator and bluetooth microwave i'd like to send a file in the form of a recipe to the two and come back 2 minutes later to a beautiful and modern day dinner...
Since this is a Leopard discussion thread here is something i'd like to see. When i pair my laptop and my bluetooth refridgerator and bluetooth microwave i'd like to send a file in the form of a recipe to the two and come back 2 minutes later to a beautiful and modern day dinner...
jsw said:
From what I saw at Macworld earlier this year, resolution independence will probably be part of a .1 increment release to Tiger..I'd be suprised if we waited 2-3 years just to get that. Most of the plumbing for it is already in the OS.
mduser63 said:
I think Rosetta is a chip that goes on the motherboard, not a software program. Support for the chip will definitely go into a .1 increment Tiger release, since preliminary details for Leopard arrive at the same time as the first x86 Macs.
GFLPraxis said:
To save space on the download or install CD/DVD?
Also, some applications won't be so trivial to cross-compile. Low level IO, communications, etc. will face endianness issues, and developers might not want to go through the effort of creating conditional code to compile correctly on every platform.
Have we had Lynx yet? I also have heard rumors about a vector (resolution independent) GUI.JackSYi said:I think Leopard is awesome, although Cougar would of been nice. Also Lion does sound awfully generic and unoriginal, but then again it is the King of the cats.
Also, I can't really think of any major upgrades in Mac OS 10.5 Leopard beside upgrades to Spotlight. Could someone give suggestions. Also if someone could tell me the significance of the independent resolutions, that would be great.
I just posted this in another thread as it occurred to me, but here is what I think will be one of the big new features in Leopard: Red Box.
For those who didn't follow the transition from NEXTstep (whatever the capitalization is) to Rhapsody to OS X, Red Box was essentially the Intel equivalent of Classic on Rhapsody. In those days, Rhapsody was not only developed for both PPC and Intel (just as OS X was all along), but it was also released for Intel. PPC Rhapsody had Blue Box for running old Mac apps and Intel Rhapsody had Red Box for running Windows apps. Blue Box eventually became Classic when Rhapsody became OS X.
I believe Red Box is likely still a part of OS X somewhere in Apple, and it will be publically released by the time Leopard is out. Now if Apple's been keeping everything up to date all this time, maybe they could pull a surprise move and release Red Box with a late version of Tiger for Intel next year. But I think it's more likely to come in Leopard.
More info about Red Box and its history here.
And here's another interesting page from 1997 that talks about the shocking possibility of Intel-based Macs. Heh.
For those who didn't follow the transition from NEXTstep (whatever the capitalization is) to Rhapsody to OS X, Red Box was essentially the Intel equivalent of Classic on Rhapsody. In those days, Rhapsody was not only developed for both PPC and Intel (just as OS X was all along), but it was also released for Intel. PPC Rhapsody had Blue Box for running old Mac apps and Intel Rhapsody had Red Box for running Windows apps. Blue Box eventually became Classic when Rhapsody became OS X.
I believe Red Box is likely still a part of OS X somewhere in Apple, and it will be publically released by the time Leopard is out. Now if Apple's been keeping everything up to date all this time, maybe they could pull a surprise move and release Red Box with a late version of Tiger for Intel next year. But I think it's more likely to come in Leopard.
More info about Red Box and its history here.
And here's another interesting page from 1997 that talks about the shocking possibility of Intel-based Macs. Heh.