Mac OS X Lion Roundup: Recovery Partitions, TRIM, Core 2 Duo Minimum, Security Focus

[a.gomez]

recovery partition and TRIM - really? guess we covering the "about time" part of lion first

 

[PatrickCocoa]

I Agree

Proof you can't please everyone lol. Oh no, 4gb of my 256gb or 500gb drive is gone. The humanity.

I agree. I bought my last iMac in 2009 and got the 2TB hard drive. I just spent $180 on a 3 TB USB hard drive that I use for Time Machine on the iMac. In the past year and a half I have not once looked to see how much space I'm using on the hard drive. My mind is free to cogitate on more important matters (like commenting on MacRumors).

Even a 20 GB recovery partition is not worth worrying about. The cost of the recovery partition is much less than the benefit of being able to recover from an issue where you Mac won't boot.

EDIT: I now remember that I have looked at the hard drive space exactly once: when I plugged the 3TB it asked if I wanted to use it for Time Machine. I said yes, then it told my it would back up about 600 GB or so.

 

[damieng]

System Profiler is just listing whether the DRIVE supports the TRIM command.

It doesn't mean the operating system is issuing that command.

System Profiler already displays this on Snow Leopard today.

[)amien

 

[Speedy2]

Well, there goes my still-perfectly-functional-and-used MacBook 2 GHz Core Duo.

You mean, it will suddenly stop working once Lion is released? And Snow Leopard suddenly becomes old, slow and ugly?

 

[Apple Expert]

Since C2D is the min., it looks like my black mackbook just made it.

 

[3460169]

...
The one thing I care about regarding Lion is the rumored whole disk encryption - and that hasn't shown up yet. Hopefully that wasn't just something someone pulled out of their... hat.

Erm... it's not rumored. More like fact.

 

[Frosties]

Trim is nice. Seems like it will be a great release. Any news on filesystem?

 

[cfedu]

Well, there goes my still-perfectly-functional-and-used MacBook 2 GHz Core Duo.

How did it break?

 

[AidenShaw]

Recovery partitions are annoying, and needlessly tie up disk space. I've seen some of our faculty purchase Windows laptops where the available space was 30-40 percent smaller than the actual hard drive, all because of the stupid recovery partition.

My Dell XT2's recovery partition is 2.00 GiB on its 128 GB SSD. Where is your faculty finding Windows laptops that ship with 5 GB drives?

TRIM... don't particularly care. I hope it doesn't mean they're moving to lower-quality SSDs though.

High quality SSD drives support, and benefit from, TRIM.

Garbage collection lets the drive guess about unused space. TRIM lets the OS tell the drive that space is unused, so that the garbage collection *knows* which space is unused.

Garbage collection isn't bad, but TRIM is better. TRIM *and* garbage collection is best.

Lol. Windows idea? Seriously? OR you mean, it has been done already in windows, like Windows already with TRIM support?

Yes, seriously. Recovery partitions have been available on Windows since the XP days. Nice to see Apple realizing the value of having a protected partition for repair/recovery purposes.

It makes Apple look kind of stupid for the "Redmond, start your photocopiers" banners, doesn't it.

Proof you can't please everyone lol. Oh no, 4gb of my 256gb or 500gb drive is gone. The humanity.

 

[gramirez2012]

TRIM support was obvious.

 

[milbournosphere]

Your Core Duo chip is 32 bit only and Apple is moving so that all Lion computers are 64bit

Yeah, I realize that now

 

[Alvi]

Isn't Lion supposed to be lighter like the iPad?
A Core2Duo as a minimum is pretty fast, now I'm worried on how it will run on my Mid-2009 13" 2.26 C2D MBP

 

[bplein]

Any chance that a native iSCSI client is back in? (last seen: Snow Leopard developer builds)

 

[yellow]

I'm curious how many people at my work who are going to blow up their PGP encrypted Macs by trying to install 10.7 on their own.

 

[Mistrblank]

Well, there's my excuse to upgrade my Macbook 1,1.

Just means I'll be sticking with Snow Leopard for far longer.

 

[mabaker]

If itunes is still 32bit, there is NOT SINGLE ONE reason for them to let the early Intel support go other than greed. Point blanc.

 

[AndyK]

I'm so happy.

Me and my Macbook are going too make sweet speed processing love.

 

[300D]

Because when your neighbor installs Lion, his version will leap across to your house and kill your old MacBook?

No. Developers will simply stop supporting it since the Mac Store won't.

 

[aiqw9182]

Isn't Lion supposed to be lighter like the iPad?
A Core2Duo as a minimum is pretty fast, now I'm worried on how it will run on my Mid-2009 13" 2.26 C2D MBP

Has nothing to do with how fast the processor is, it has to do with the technical limitations of the original Core Duo/Solo machines. Just view the minimum requirement as being a 64-bit Intel processor.

 

[Amdahl]

I'm using one of the old Core Duos that's losing support, but I can understand Apple's position. The new computers are switching to SSD, so they need to reduce file sizes any way they can, so they are dropping 32-bit support.

No, they are not dropping 32-bit support. All apps will run, the libraries are still there. They are simply requiring that any computer on Lion can run 64-bit. Minimal space savings. They will gain a bit of space from dropping PowerPC support in Lion.

 

[vincenz]

Really makes me want to get an SSD...

 

[aeaglex07]

If itunes is still 32bit, there is NOT SINGLE ONE reason for them to let the early Intel support go other than greed. Point blanc.

i agree. but im assuming/hoping they release an updated/redesigned 64bit iTunes when Lion ships.

 

[aiqw9182]

i agree. but im assuming/hoping they release an updated/redesigned 64bit iTunes when Lion ships.

Why? 32-bit applications run perfectly fine under Lion.

 

[Kalach]

G4's couldn't use snow leopard and now g5 users with intel processors can't use lion.

I'm glad i didn't sell my G4

 

[adnoh]

Unfortunately Lion (at least for now) supports trim ONLY on Apple SSDs. My Intel X25-M G2 isn't supported in Lion, even though the drive itself supports TRIM. I've heard the same from people with Vertex 2 drives. Might change by release time, might not. Great way to get people to buy your SSDs....

It would suck so bad if it only worked on apple ssds in the retail version. I would have to look into jail breaking my mac!