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Mac OS X Lion Set for Summer 2011 Debut, Mac App Store to Launch Within 90 Days
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Try getting a brain, they said NOTHING about running iOS Apps on OS X, NOTHING!!! Get it?
This is a SNEAK PEAK, it is NOT a list of new features in Lion.
The goal with all Operating Systems is to make them simpler, easier and quicker to use, if Lion does that then it will have succeeded where many others have failed. It is not for geeks like you, piss of to Linux
Lion makes it easier to use for people who aren't technologically inclined. Most people aren't. Yea, you and I are. But most people aren't. If you don't like it, you can just not switch. I know people still using Vista and are living their lives just fine. I also know people who use Leopard and Tiger in their daily lives. Fact is, people want things to be easier, faster, better. Lion so far makes it easier and better. Again, this is a sneak peek. Not a developer preview. Or a beta. It's just a list of some features that are noteworthy as of right now.
Or more recently Boot Camp for Tiger 10.4.
Did they talk price? I just hope Apple still plans to only charge $29 for upgrades.
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I wonder if there a bunch of other improvements that iCare more about. Oh wait, there always are.
This looks like some gimmik for people who don't know how to use a computer, but it probably has some other features I would like (Mission Control and fullscreen already look good). Leopard looked like Tiger with UI changes and 2 new features, but it actually had a bunch of nice new features and under-the-hood improvements as well as some teaks (like how if you rename something, it doesn't select the extension too).
I wonder if there a bunch of other improvements that iCare more about. Oh wait, there always are.
This looks like some gimmik for people who don't know how to use a computer, but it probably has some other features I would like (Mission Control and fullscreen already look good). Leopard looked like Tiger with UI changes and 2 new features, but it actually had a bunch of nice new features and under-the-hood improvements as well as some teaks (like how if you rename something, it doesn't select the extension too).
I agree. Apple can't just show off all the cool, techy stuff with Lion. They have to show some general, consumer stuff like the App Store and then some really techy stuff that more technologically inclined people would like. It's a balance I say.
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, but look at Chuck67322's Youtube tutorial to see how to make one that looks more like Adobe icons. I tried it and it makes the icon look way better .And see my other post. I agree that this sneak-peek is to reel in tech-illiterates but there are more features to come for sure.
why is everyone getting so upset? did anyone read what it says about OS X 10.7?
"here is a sneak peak at a "few" of lions new features"
the word "few" is in there. not "all" the new features, a "few" of them.
Chill out.
you think they are going to show their entire hand with WWDC left among other things? Not by a long shot. You'll see a lot more features popping up until lions release.
you think the guy working on the "revolutionary" new OS feature would already be done wrapping up? he just started a month or two ago. I am unsure when that story first surfaced on here. regardless, he probably has not had time to implement whatever the new "feature" is. I bet we see it though come WWDC or closer to launch of lion itself.
I'm not going to get sensitive and upset right now because this is only a "sneak peak" at lion. people are just to uptight
"here is a sneak peak at a "few" of lions new features"
the word "few" is in there. not "all" the new features, a "few" of them.
Chill out.
you think they are going to show their entire hand with WWDC left among other things? Not by a long shot. You'll see a lot more features popping up until lions release.
you think the guy working on the "revolutionary" new OS feature would already be done wrapping up? he just started a month or two ago. I am unsure when that story first surfaced on here. regardless, he probably has not had time to implement whatever the new "feature" is. I bet we see it though come WWDC or closer to launch of lion itself.
I'm not going to get sensitive and upset right now because this is only a "sneak peak" at lion. people are just to uptight
Cool stuff, but yeah, if this is seriously all that Lion has to offer then I'll definitely pass.
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And see my other post. I agree that this sneak-peek is to reel in tech-illiterates but there are more features to come for sure.
I know how to make the Adobe CS4/CS5 icons from scratch. I have a tutorial on how to make the CS4 icons on my YouTube channel. I wasn't trying to make it look like the Adobes ones. Just a simple background (my favorite color is purple or blue) and some letters in my username.
That being said, it's time to make a different one. I've had that avatar for a long time.
Ditto. I have no interest in any OS that doesn't let me do anything/everything at the command line--not just for how I want to use it, but also in terms of openness. I intend to keep my G5 (on Leopard) until it either dies or I'm stuck having to run something Intel-only (not likely, given that it's mostly just a basic office tasks+code generation machine, and virtually every compiler under the sun runs on PPC)...after that, well, I wish I could say I was certain I'll be game for the next round of OS X--but we'll have to see.
real innovation
All the things demonstrated and described today are just a re-polishing of the silverware.
Real innovation would be a hugely more stable, faster, more secure operating system. It would be greatly increased/lower cost cloud storage. All this other stuff is fluff.
Has apple run out of truly big ideas for the Mac?
All the things demonstrated and described today are just a re-polishing of the silverware.
Real innovation would be a hugely more stable, faster, more secure operating system. It would be greatly increased/lower cost cloud storage. All this other stuff is fluff.
Has apple run out of truly big ideas for the Mac?
I wouldn't make too many assumptions at this point. We're talking the very first demo of the OS in public. I can only imagine we'll see far more at WWDC, etc. Snow Leopard wasn't exactly the most exciting update at first glance either.
Mission control is awesome. Bringing all the disparate window management tools into a unified user interface is exactly what was needed. It doesn't look to be much fun on the Magic Mouse though, given how many issues were had during the demo. I'm thinking this is something that will sell a lot of Magic Trackpads.
As to the Launchpad, I don't hate the concept but I do think the dock is already an elegant enough method for using the software I run daily. Everything else is in the Applications stack and/or can be found by Spotlight in no time. I'd say that from a usability perspective it doesn't really seem to be built for me, rather people coming from a complete Mac newb viewpoint. They're essentially lowering the barrier of entry for people coming in from the halo iOS devices, which is a good thing. My mum, for instance, would probably love it.
People should not be interested in how the operating system works? Then you sir are exactly Apples ideal market.
Every 10.x has started as the previous version modified.
Architecturally and from a UI perspective Snow Leopard looks a better release. And that was bagged as a "service pack". Apple did a lot of good work on Snow Leopard, which got bagged as a service pack.
Maybe it would be better if they'd had Bertrand Serlet (who is a jovial character with serious technical background) up on stage to give a bit more detail, instead of the douche they got to do the demo.
The guy doing the demo, if you watched (and all my office mates were snickering at) was shaking like crazy and I'll bet his fingers were sweaty too. He looked nervous. I'm guessing crowds aren't his thing.
I don't like where this is going. Lion is looking a bit like "At Ease 2.0" and the Mac App Store looks like another step towards the Mac becoming a closed DRM platform with dumbed down functionality for consumers to buy stuff with. Sure you can create with it, as long as it's some chintzy, saccharine holiday movie that looks like everybody else's.
The philosophy and progression has been obvious really. A sealed and controlled environment like iOS has obvious appeal to a company that designed and built the sealed shiny box that is the iMac. Apple wants more and more control over what you do with your computer hardware, and for it to lead to more revenue streams for them which is what this is really all about. They may not take away file system access in 10.7 but you can bet it's on their radar, it's just a matter of how Jobs packages it to make you think that actually, it's for your own good.
I slumped when Jobs said he wanted to bring iOS functionality to the Mac.
The philosophy and progression has been obvious really. A sealed and controlled environment like iOS has obvious appeal to a company that designed and built the sealed shiny box that is the iMac. Apple wants more and more control over what you do with your computer hardware, and for it to lead to more revenue streams for them which is what this is really all about. They may not take away file system access in 10.7 but you can bet it's on their radar, it's just a matter of how Jobs packages it to make you think that actually, it's for your own good.
I slumped when Jobs said he wanted to bring iOS functionality to the Mac.
I'm underwhelmed, but I see stepping stones to replace the Finder in it's entirety here. There are steps into the direction I would like to see, with full sized apps that make better use of spaces etc. Better integration with expose' and what not is pretty cool.
Adding iOS features is cool, but it's not simple in terms of the big picture. The iOS features are redundant with the Finder, and menus in the top bar. Apple needs to reduce redundancy in bars, buttons, and menus throughout the UI, putting the focus on what app or series of apps are being worked on and the CONTENT in those apps. I think the US playstation website does a fairly good job of this emphasis, or full screen iPhoto '11 or the Weather Channel's iPad app, etc. My hope is that, eventually (sooner rather than later), the redundancies are taken out of OS X. It appears to be the programming strategy...
I was hoping for a new emphasis on internet and networking to compete with Google's forthcoming OS...
I hope this positions Apple for developing an update system like Google Chrome that is totally transparent to the user, and a new simpler GUI.
Development of webkit 2 and tabs on top for Safari should have been announced too...
Probably full 64-bit kernal as the default option...
Lion is the King of Cats, so I bet the next OS X, may be OS XI. I'd hope for resolution independence and a new filesystem by then...
Apple is now moving forward at a slow pace, and I think reasonably so, they have a huge user base and can't avoid a mass transition like the transition from OS 9 - OS X or from PowerPC to Intel again.
Having said all of that, I want more! (and that does sound like an impatient, winy brat, so my apologies)
Adding iOS features is cool, but it's not simple in terms of the big picture. The iOS features are redundant with the Finder, and menus in the top bar. Apple needs to reduce redundancy in bars, buttons, and menus throughout the UI, putting the focus on what app or series of apps are being worked on and the CONTENT in those apps. I think the US playstation website does a fairly good job of this emphasis, or full screen iPhoto '11 or the Weather Channel's iPad app, etc. My hope is that, eventually (sooner rather than later), the redundancies are taken out of OS X. It appears to be the programming strategy...
I was hoping for a new emphasis on internet and networking to compete with Google's forthcoming OS...
I hope this positions Apple for developing an update system like Google Chrome that is totally transparent to the user, and a new simpler GUI.
Development of webkit 2 and tabs on top for Safari should have been announced too...
Probably full 64-bit kernal as the default option...
Lion is the King of Cats, so I bet the next OS X, may be OS XI. I'd hope for resolution independence and a new filesystem by then...
Apple is now moving forward at a slow pace, and I think reasonably so, they have a huge user base and can't avoid a mass transition like the transition from OS 9 - OS X or from PowerPC to Intel again.
Having said all of that, I want more! (and that does sound like an impatient, winy brat, so my apologies)
They seem more interested in the iDevices and the billions its brought them over the past few years. OS X? Pfft. It's all about iOS now, and "Lion" is meowing with these new "innovations". ZFS, RI, security, full use of cores/hyper-threading and more 64-bit processing? Never. Let's put our main focus on iOS and every few years update OS X and one of the "Pro" lines.
I think it's downright disgusting that anyone thinks taste should have any part in which software is available to users. In and of itself I don't see how the lion app store will hurt people if they can get applications outside of it. It doesn't infringe on the power of the system but any further attempt to block users power will make this 28 year mac user investigate switching. I would absolutely find it offensive if there was a child protection option to block installations and downloads that weren't through the app store. If this had been in place when I was young I wouldn't have learned to use my computer.
I do not think you have to trade a user's freedom for usability
I do not think you have to trade a user's freedom for usability
Not really. Apple's last feature release of Mac OS X was 2007, which they had been demoing since 2006. And the next release is mid 2011.
Many posters on here are far more impatient.
I couldn't tell if this had already been discussed, but it seems to me that all the applications we saw running in full screen mode as well as the more gesture heavy way of navigating between applications and mission control opens up for hands on touch like on the iPad.
Looking at the guy presenting mission control with gestures on the Magic Mouse made me think that the most clumsy thing about this OS could possibly be navigation if we're limited to the current ways of input.
Recalling a patent application of an iMac with an almost horizontally tilted screen and assuming that the launch of Lion and then next generation of iMacs might coincide around Summer 2011 might make things interesting? Could it be a combination of touch for full screen apps and traditional input for windowed browsing?
Any thoughts?
Looking at the guy presenting mission control with gestures on the Magic Mouse made me think that the most clumsy thing about this OS could possibly be navigation if we're limited to the current ways of input.
Recalling a patent application of an iMac with an almost horizontally tilted screen and assuming that the launch of Lion and then next generation of iMacs might coincide around Summer 2011 might make things interesting? Could it be a combination of touch for full screen apps and traditional input for windowed browsing?
Any thoughts?
To the people FREAKING OUT about the app store and Apple's "monopoly":
You guys do know that even if this does happen, there are other OSes and platforms, right?
The thing I find so funny about all the whining and griping on this site is that people WANT Apple stuff, even when they hate it. That amuses me.
I left a Linux desktop/laptop for Apple and OS X because it worked better for basically EVERYTHING I did. Did I give up some "freedom"? Yeah. Did I give up any freedom I was actually exercising? No.
And if Apple ties everything to the App Store on the Mac... I'll move to a different platform. I don't think I'm gonna start rending any garments until Apple is somehow my ONLY choice.
You guys do know that even if this does happen, there are other OSes and platforms, right?
The thing I find so funny about all the whining and griping on this site is that people WANT Apple stuff, even when they hate it. That amuses me.
I left a Linux desktop/laptop for Apple and OS X because it worked better for basically EVERYTHING I did. Did I give up some "freedom"? Yeah. Did I give up any freedom I was actually exercising? No.
And if Apple ties everything to the App Store on the Mac... I'll move to a different platform. I don't think I'm gonna start rending any garments until Apple is somehow my ONLY choice.