Yeah, but the alternatives are Windows and Linux. Gotta be honest, I'm not particularly keen on either of them.
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Mac OS X Lion Set for Summer 2011 Debut, Mac App Store to Launch Within 90 Days
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Yeah, but the alternatives are Windows and Linux. Gotta be honest, I'm not particularly keen on either of them.
Full Screen - Great! Now the green button has a real use that is easy to understand. A lot of apps will make great use of it.
Launch Pad - Great! Now I don't have to open Finder and scroll through a huge list of apps to find that one app I rarely have to use and don't put in my dock. I do hope they change the way folders look.
Mac App Store - Fantastic! I central place to get applications is something that computers have been needing for a long time. Now I don't have to Google them to try and find the official Website, it's down-right stupid simple to download and install, updates are just as easy, and hopefully they take on the same prices that the iPhone App Store gets.
Mission Control - Great! Just yesterday I was using Expose with a PDF with huge screenshots of a Website with instructions, and it was difficult to tell which window was Safari and which was Preview. Now they have the app icon floating above them, so that solves that problem.
Hooray Lion! I can't wait to see what else Apple brings to it. *crosses fingers for tabbed Finder*
A lot of apps will make great use of it.Launch Pad - Great! Now I don't have to open Finder and scroll through a huge list of apps to find that one app I rarely have to use and don't put in my dock. I do hope they change the way folders look.
Mac App Store - Fantastic! I central place to get applications is something that computers have been needing for a long time. Now I don't have to Google them to try and find the official Website, it's down-right stupid simple to download and install, updates are just as easy, and hopefully they take on the same prices that the iPhone App Store gets.
Mission Control - Great! Just yesterday I was using Expose with a PDF with huge screenshots of a Website with instructions, and it was difficult to tell which window was Safari and which was Preview. Now they have the app icon floating above them, so that solves that problem.
Hooray Lion! I can't wait to see what else Apple brings to it. *crosses fingers for tabbed Finder*
I really wish Apple would spend some time working on OS-wide UI consistency and complying to their own human interface guidelines before adding what are, in my opinion, unnecessary iOS features - although that's beside the point.
For example; the gradient of the title bar, the grey sidebar icons and the vertical traffic lights are only used in iTunes, Preview is still using the pre-Leopard aqua buttons that the rest of Apple's applications have moved on from, and even the Mac App Store's traffic lights are in a different position than any other application.
Also in the Mac App store, the tab bar is at the top of the window, which contradicts Apple's own human interface guidelines which encourages them to be placed at the bottom.
I'm aware that Lion is still being developed and improvements may still be made, but these inconsistencies have been around for at least as long as I've been a Mac user. For a company that prides it's self on perfectionism, they've let a fair bit slip through the net.
For example; the gradient of the title bar, the grey sidebar icons and the vertical traffic lights are only used in iTunes, Preview is still using the pre-Leopard aqua buttons that the rest of Apple's applications have moved on from, and even the Mac App Store's traffic lights are in a different position than any other application.
Also in the Mac App store, the tab bar is at the top of the window, which contradicts Apple's own human interface guidelines which encourages them to be placed at the bottom.
I'm aware that Lion is still being developed and improvements may still be made, but these inconsistencies have been around for at least as long as I've been a Mac user. For a company that prides it's self on perfectionism, they've let a fair bit slip through the net.
Apple is getting confusing and superfulous at User Interface. what's about simplicity?! my opinion, they are making os x ui a big mess.
Yeah, but the alternatives are Windows and Linux. Gotta be honest, I'm not particularly keen on either of them.
I don't like them as much either. (I'll do Linux before Windows.) However... I'm not worrying. It doesn't make any sense to lock down the normal computers like the mobile platform. People think they're converging... and they're not. One borrowing ideas from the other is simply not the same.
Where is the Finder???
I was first amazed that when the guy was demoing iMovie, the FaceTime app was in the dock and there was no Wi-Fi or Time indicators in the title bar of OS X. There was no files on his desktop, not even a drive.
He never showed the Finder in his demo? It was open, but it was never shown. Are the Launchpad and Finder used interchangebly? Can the UI be switched from Finder to Launchpad? Is there a setting to turn Launchpad off? Why am I asking you all these questions?
I was first amazed that when the guy was demoing iMovie, the FaceTime app was in the dock and there was no Wi-Fi or Time indicators in the title bar of OS X. There was no files on his desktop, not even a drive
.He never showed the Finder in his demo? It was open, but it was never shown. Are the Launchpad and Finder used interchangebly? Can the UI be switched from Finder to Launchpad? Is there a setting to turn Launchpad off? Why am I asking you all these questions?
Very true, I noticed heavy gesture usage, it almost seems painful. If I have a regular mouse I might be out of luck. So now I have to get a TrackPad and a Mouse, or I got to stick with the rotten MagicMouse.
Hope an alternate use is in place for people who do not have a gesture pad or mouse. If would like the option to disable those apps that require gesture from my desktop.
dilemma either I get a MagicTrack Pad and have poor accuracy and benefit from gestures or buy a laser mouse (other than
) and have no way of gesture input. I have already looked past all the UI inconsistencies. At this preview I was not impressed at all, hope something changes in Jan 2011, otherwise this is one update I will not be forth going.
With the MacBookAir transforming into an iDevice, and that is the direction that
wants to head. I might no even be upgrading my HW anytime soon.Win for me really more $$$ in my pockets.
I was first amazed that when the guy was demoing iMovie, the FaceTime app was in the dock and there was no Wi-Fi or Time indicators in the title bar of OS X. There was no files on his desktop, not even a drive
He never showed the Finder in his demo? It was open, but it was never shown. Are the Launchpad and Finder used interchangebly? Can the UI be switched from Finder to Launchpad? Is there a setting to turn Launchpad off? Why am I asking you all these questions?
Maybe LaunchPad is the new Finder. Revolutionary new feature.
You know, a Macworld article once stated that if a Mac user had been "plucked" from 1984 and sat in front of a brand new Mac, he would not have much trouble with the new Mac. Why? Because it still has a Finder, Apple menu, and files lined up on the right side of the screen. The main UI is still the same.
Now I feel Apple is changing the main UI around OS X and modeling it around iOS on the iPad. The Finder is no longer the main UI, there are no icons except for Applications in Launchpad, and WHERE THE CRAP HAPPENED TO MY DESKTOP?
Apple is changing the roots of OS X and the Mac OS in general. This is not always a very good thing. I will stick to Tiger on my iBook G3, thank you.
Now I feel Apple is changing the main UI around OS X and modeling it around iOS on the iPad. The Finder is no longer the main UI, there are no icons except for Applications in Launchpad, and WHERE THE CRAP HAPPENED TO MY DESKTOP?
Apple is changing the roots of OS X and the Mac OS in general. This is not always a very good thing. I will stick to Tiger on my iBook G3, thank you.
Hmm :-(
Not impressed Apple, not impressed at all. Nice to see you found yourself yet another revenue stream you can use, but know that I will switch back to Linux if you force us to jailbreak our mac in order to have full control over our computing systems. Sitting on a pile of cash, 4 years of time and this is what you come up with ? Urgh !!! FU Apple
Not impressed Apple, not impressed at all. Nice to see you found yourself yet another revenue stream you can use, but know that I will switch back to Linux if you force us to jailbreak our mac in order to have full control over our computing systems. Sitting on a pile of cash, 4 years of time and this is what you come up with ? Urgh !!!
FU Apple
Maybe LaunchPad is the new Finder. Revolutionary new feature.
Finder and Launchpad were to seperate applications in the OS X 10.7 Dock.
I can see.....10.8 Installer....."Optional Installs: Rosseta, Finder, and Spotlight."
Agree, this could easily have been put in a point release or just released as a download.
Finder and Launchpad were to seperate applications in the OS X 10.7 Dock.
I can see.....10.8 Installer....."Optional Installs: Rosseta, Finder, and Spotlight."
Oddest part was that I already have something similar to this. Place Application Folder in the Dock. "Poof" LaunchPad. Never had a problem finding any apps or documents for that matter. And when you install an App or any app for that matter you install it in the Application Folder. Not sure why LaunchPad is even required. Seems
is running out of innovation from todays showing and just including iOS elements and wrapping it up as Revolutionary. Major disappointment today. Looking forward to Jan 2011.All those applications on the desktop remind me of the mess of application icons that are on my Windows 7 desktop...
...and does it not bother any one that since Leopard in 2007 Apple STILL uses a silver dock background that doesn't show the glowing orbs under open applications well, if at all? I've had to change mine and every one of my clients' dock to black in order to see the open app indicators. I love when clients respond with "I had no idea there were indicators!"
...and does it not bother any one that since Leopard in 2007 Apple STILL uses a silver dock background that doesn't show the glowing orbs under open applications well, if at all? I've had to change mine and every one of my clients' dock to black in order to see the open app indicators. I love when clients respond with "I had no idea there were indicators!"
because they can't possibly create an API for the ideas needed to implement their idea so that they can benefit developers. Instead they have to build their ideas directly into the OS to keep people to from "ruining" it. They do that because steve jobs still thinks that the desktop is "clunky" even though my 87 year old grandmother can use it. They do it because apple treats their users like magazines treat their readers. A Cosmogirl is..., Esquire men are... , Mac users want...
This expose feature would have been available from a 3rd party seven years ago if they had just opened up their ****.
Don't forget FaceTime. Do we really need a separate app for this?
showing today was welcomed with a THUD.
Ok... I'm not happy with Mac OS Lion.
Obviously this is the last version of Mac OS X as WE know it.
From this moment on I can assure you it will be named as iOS pro or Mac iOS.
Mac App Store --------------------------------> REALLY???
Launch Pad... as in an iPad within a Mac? I don't want my Mac looking as an iPad! I want my Mac for production and my iPad for entertainment.
Mission Control? Boooooooo!
This is the first time in my Mac life that I don't want to run to Apple store to buy the latest OS and Im one of the freaks that do a line for hours in front of any Apple Store.
Please God tell me this is not the biggest features of Lion... Please.
I don't like the idea of where all of this is going... Apple wants to make money selling apps, games and junk.... and they want to be the only ones with full working Macs to develop apps for non functional Macs-iPod-like machines that stops up from creating!
I'm really piss ...
Obviously this is the last version of Mac OS X as WE know it.
From this moment on I can assure you it will be named as iOS pro or Mac iOS.
Mac App Store --------------------------------> REALLY???
Launch Pad... as in an iPad within a Mac? I don't want my Mac looking as an iPad! I want my Mac for production and my iPad for entertainment.
Mission Control? Boooooooo!
This is the first time in my Mac life that I don't want to run to Apple store to buy the latest OS and Im one of the freaks that do a line for hours in front of any Apple Store.
Please God tell me this is not the biggest features of Lion... Please.
I don't like the idea of where all of this is going... Apple wants to make money selling apps, games and junk.... and they want to be the only ones with full working Macs to develop apps for non functional Macs-iPod-like machines that stops up from creating!
I'm really piss ...
What's with the vibe of negativity on this site, 3/1 voted negative?
Let me remind newer users here (so they are not swept under by the negativity that this site is steeped in - from the owners, to the moderation, to the frequent posters and trolls) of similar foolish posting back when the ipod was introduced ("what the heck is that, why would they release an mp3 player"), the ipad was rumored (who needs such a thing, I don't get it, this is going to tank) etc. etc.
Just because this negativity is tolerated here for advertising $$ for macrumors doesn't mean things are really bad.
So, gals and guys enjoy, you are alive, most of us are pretty healthy or at least not in that bad a shape, a new os x will soon be out, it has the great name of lion, we can facetime with a simple click with friends and family on our iphones and ipods and macs, autocad is back to the mac (yohoo!!!), some new lovely airs are out, apple is going from strength to strength and their hasn't been as much choice and wonderful stuff going on in the mac world than ever before. Let's enjoy some of that goodness while it lasts, it's infrequent in life, it doesn't last more, and it gets bogged down by neurotics who want to be negative because they can't be happy non neurotically.
(p.s. I am not universally dismissing anyone with an opposing view of course, I am not making such blanket statements, and I respect the fact that the forums are also for negative comments, but I am referring to neurotic, persistent, almost compulsive negativity that goes on in these forums, that's even fostered by the house.)
Ah, and Steve is still vertical!
Let me remind newer users here (so they are not swept under by the negativity that this site is steeped in - from the owners, to the moderation, to the frequent posters and trolls) of similar foolish posting back when the ipod was introduced ("what the heck is that, why would they release an mp3 player"), the ipad was rumored (who needs such a thing, I don't get it, this is going to tank) etc. etc.
Just because this negativity is tolerated here for advertising $$ for macrumors doesn't mean things are really bad.
So, gals and guys enjoy, you are alive, most of us are pretty healthy or at least not in that bad a shape, a new os x will soon be out, it has the great name of lion, we can facetime with a simple click with friends and family on our iphones and ipods and macs, autocad is back to the mac (yohoo!!!), some new lovely airs are out, apple is going from strength to strength and their hasn't been as much choice and wonderful stuff going on in the mac world than ever before. Let's enjoy some of that goodness while it lasts, it's infrequent in life, it doesn't last more, and it gets bogged down by neurotics who want to be negative because they can't be happy non neurotically.
(p.s. I am not universally dismissing anyone with an opposing view of course, I am not making such blanket statements, and I respect the fact that the forums are also for negative comments, but I am referring to neurotic, persistent, almost compulsive negativity that goes on in these forums, that's even fostered by the house.)
Ah, and Steve is still vertical!
Seconded...
I second your post, word for word.
Ok... I'm not happy with Mac OS Lion.
Obviously this is the last version of Mac OS X as WE know it.
From this moment on I can assure you it will be named as iOS pro or Mac iOS.
Mac App Store --------------------------------> REALLY???
Launch Pad... as in an iPad within a Mac? I don't want my Mac looking as an iPad! I want my Mac for production and my iPad for entertainment.
Mission Control? Boooooooo!
This is the first time in my Mac life that I don't want to run to Apple store to buy the latest OS and Im one of the freaks that do a line for hours in front of any Apple Store.
Please God tell me this is not the biggest features of Lion... Please.
I don't like the idea of where all of this is going... Apple wants to make money selling apps, games and junk.... and they want to be the only ones with full working Macs to develop apps for non functional Macs-iPod-like machines that stops up from creating!
I'm really piss ...
I second your post, word for word.
After all the talk of the data center and the "revolutionary feature" involving HTML, there was no hint today of Apple's cloud strategy. I was hoping to hear something about integrated cloud storage or some migration of iLife features to the cloud. Instead we got new slideshow themes
Seriously, Apple's competitors are moving forward with powerful web services and applications, while Apple seems focused on their native app store model. I hope they have something up their sleeves to help them catch up in this area, where Google, Microsoft, and even Dropbox are ahead of them. I am honestly more drawn to the Chrome OS model of portable cloud computing than the new direction of Lion, where I am dependent on iOS/OS X apps that only run on Apple hardware.
Seriously, Apple's competitors are moving forward with powerful web services and applications, while Apple seems focused on their native app store model. I hope they have something up their sleeves to help them catch up in this area, where Google, Microsoft, and even Dropbox are ahead of them. I am honestly more drawn to the Chrome OS model of portable cloud computing than the new direction of Lion, where I am dependent on iOS/OS X apps that only run on Apple hardware.
What's with the vibe of negativity on this site, 3/1 voted negative?
Let me remind newer users here (so they are not swept under by the negativity that this site is steeped in - from the owners, to the moderation, to the frequent posters and trolls) of similar foolish posting back when the ipod was introduced ("what the heck is that, why would they release an mp3 player"), the ipad was rumored (who needs such a thing, I don't get it, this is going to tank) etc. etc.
Just because this negativity is tolerated here for advertising $$ for macrumors doesn't mean things are really bad.
So, gals and guys enjoy, you are alive, most of us are pretty healthy or at least not in that bad a shape, a new os x will soon be out, it has the great name of lion, we can facetime with a simple click with friends and family on our iphones and ipods and macs, autocad is back to the mac (yohoo!!!), some new lovely airs are out, apple is going from strength to strength and their hasn't been as much choice and wonderful stuff going on in the mac world than ever before. Let's enjoy some of that goodness while it lasts, it's infrequent in life, it doesn't last more, and it gets bogged down by neurotics who want to be negative because they can't be happy non neurotically.
(p.s. I am not universally dismissing anyone with an opposing view of course, I am not making such blanket statements, and I respect the fact that the forums are also for negative comments, but I am referring to neurotic, persistent, almost compulsive negativity that goes on in these forums, that's even fostered by the house.)
Ah, and Steve is still vertical!
Long time user here of the Mac platform, and I disagree with you.
has had misses in its history as well. Lets me remind you of the G4 Cube.If Mac OS Lion has no other draw factor come Jan 2011, I believe I will be sticking with SnowLeopard for a long long time. I do not need an iOS for iDevices on my Mac and I like my iDevices. One is targeted towards entertainment and the other production. With Mac OS Lion, it seems
cannot decide if they are coming or going in which direction.Vertical, well more of a curve.
After all the talk of the data center and the "revolutionary feature" involving HTML, there was no hint today of Apple's cloud strategy. I was hoping to hear something about integrated cloud storage or some migration of iLife features to the cloud. Instead we got new slideshow themes
Seriously, Apple's competitors are moving forward with powerful web services and applications, while Apple seems focused on their native app store model. I hope they have something up their sleeves to help them catch up in this area, where Google, Microsoft, and even Dropbox are ahead of them. I am honestly more drawn to the Chrome OS model of portable cloud computing than the new direction of Lion, where I am dependent on iOS/OS X apps that only run on Apple hardware.
The Cloud concept does not make sense all the time. Scenario:
You are on the road and have a limited data plan, or worse you are in an area that has spotty internet connection if any and you need to gain access to a key or critical document that is stored in the cloud or an app that is in the cloud. You do not have enough and reliable bandwidth to gain access. Guess what happens next, you are out of luck as you are trying to find a solution to gain access, and in business time is money.
The cloud concept seems more of a hobby, what if it gets hacked and the entire system is corrupt. Guess what, I am not taking that chance. I prefer the OS be native along with the apps and the apps can have cloud extensions for additional benefits. I am fine with that.