launchpad is useless if you use spotlight or quicksilver as a launcher. extra clutter if you ask me.
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Mac OS X Lion Set for Summer 2011 Debut, Mac App Store to Launch Within 90 Days
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The next big feature of OS X 10.7 is it WON'T be compatible with flash, thereby closing the iOS-OS X gap.
The next big feature of OS X 10.7 is it WON'T be compatible with flash, thereby closing the iOS-OS X gap.
Long time user here of the Mac platform, and I disagree with you.has had misses in its history as well. Lets me remind you of the G4 Cube.
If Mac OS Lion has no other draw factor come Jan 2011, I believe I will be sticking with SnowLeopard for a long long time. I do not need an iOS for iDevices on my Mac and I like my iDevices. One is targeted towards entertainment and the other production. With Mac OS Lion, it seems
Vertical, well more of a curve.
I haven't said apple hasn't had misses, there are tons of features of the current os and line up that I dislike, but that's just my opinion, and my personal preferences and apple isn't some kind of magic glove to fit my every need, and my ever changing needs and tastes I might add. We can't focus on the negativity and ignore so much positive that's out there and can enrich our lives. If we were in a time capsule from even as early as 2005 we 'd **** our pants with the available options, yet some people like to moan and groan and the climate becomes conducive here.
As for the past examples, you missed my point, which was that even run away success and truly great apple products have had such staggeringly bad and downright idiotic and negative receptions here, in these very forums.
And the g4 cube was a bad example. If you are a long time poster you should know this. The g4 is in the museum of modern art in NY. It was to expensive to catch on, but it was stunning. It's probably the most stunning piece of apple hardware along with the powerbook g4 12" to me. It was completely silent with no fans...ah, a real dream machine. Ok, it didn't catch on and it was ahead of its time, but the the soul of the cube (as well as the very tough practical engineering lessons to be learned from trying to fit things in such a small device) lived on in a runaway success that was the mini, part of apple's resurgence, and what a lovely machine the aluminum mini is nowadays uh?
As for os x lion. I am sorry but where did you see anything on lion that cannot be done in an identical way as you are doing it in sl right now? There's no added clutter, just added options. So you don't like ios gestures, full screen windows, launchers etc. Don't use them, the os will behave almost EXACTLY as sl currently does without you using them. You don't like the app store, don't use it, get them from the developer instead.
So you see it's more about negativity as I said that anything else. And I am not patronizing you here, that's how it seems to me.
At the same time this same negativity misses all the great stuff going into lion, resuming apps, gorgeous full screen views where you you can flick through a photo album or pdf as you would a proper book, automatic installs, an ilife that has grown into a fantastic and versatile app...and the tens of other features that we are going to see in the future, this was just a tease. (and btw what was your vision of the new os x, I am sure others would want to hear a positive vision of progress here, and I am sure apple would love to hear what customers would want.)
And if there's something you don't like, post your feedback to apple, they usually listen - more so than other companies, and even if they don't there's always some tweak from the 600,000 developers that will let you do what you want. I don't like everything they do, I find some choices wrong, some even (the end of colour sidebar icons in tunes) downright inexplicably inept but that's not the point.
The point is that when the positive aspects are so many we can't focus on the negative, unless of course people are coming here to vent out (which I am sure they do, and that's why I dislike the negativity), so in a sense the positive aspect is venting some negativity out of their system. But still, that's a vicious circle, one has to learn to focus on the positive, and apple again have given ample reasons why their tech can make our life a bit more positive, a bit richer, a bit easier.
Does anyone think we'll be able to also download Lion via the Mac App store? I think this would be a great idea. Then boot from either a burned ISO disc or USB flash drive even.
Also, what about large pro apps, such as Logic and Final Cut Pro, with massive amounts of content?
Also, what about large pro apps, such as Logic and Final Cut Pro, with massive amounts of content?
This is set to be the worst and least significant operating system ever! I've had enough of this App ********! Not everyone likes Apps. My god, to build a whole OS around them? Apple is worried about fun and games and not enough about business, which is why Microsoft will always have them beat.
Uhh, you do realize you need Apps to do business or productivity as well, right?
Ah, so you know about whats in the final release of Lion? Please tell us more.
Cuz from where I'm sitting, you're bitching about a few "neat-o" features they decided to show and making huge ridiculous assumptions about it.
Not impressed Apple, not impressed at all. Nice to see you found yourself yet another revenue stream you can use, but know that I will switch back to Linux if you force us to jailbreak our mac in order to have full control over our computing systems. Sitting on a pile of cash, 4 years of time and this is what you come up with ? Urgh !!!
This guy has been a member here for two and half years, and of course he feels entitled to say **** you apple. And he knows he 'll get away with it, that's why he does it. Now if someone tells him, rightly, to **** off, because after all these are apple not linux forums, they 'll be banned instead. Because somehow this guy thinks that because he sat on a "pile of cash" for four years apple are supposed to make all his dreams come true when and if he decides to make a purchase. I wonder if there's such a pile of cash why not go ahead and buy? Maybe he should try linux, maybe ubuntu whose last version (not this one) managed to corrupt almost all the disks of people who tried installing it. But could he say **** you ubuntu in an ubuntu forum run by good willed open source volunteers and south african entrepreneurs? Of course he couldn't, because in no forum a 2.5 year member would have the nerve to come and speak as such. Now this guy might even be one of the thousands of pc/linux/google trolls here, no doubt this site has such high membership, you never know.
And of course the crux of what he is saying is nonsense, apple has got to be the company with who has open sourced the most of their code to the community. What closed computing? Apple singlehandedly managed to put bread on the table of thousands of developers because of the app store, a simple effective way of urging customers to buy, of capitalizing on impulsive purchases, of helping the developers. What did linux ever put in the mouth of developers but big fat proclamations of freedom and open source, what did ms put in the hands of developers but tons of cracked software. I have friends who have literally never bought one single piece of software on their pcs, and as soon as they switch to iphone they start supporting those who try to make a living.
That's the spirit! Wish they were more like you here, because when something is overwhelmingly positive you manage to come out and say it, a rare thing it seems these days.Full Screen - Great! Now the green button has a real use that is easy to understand.
Launch Pad - Great! Now I don't have to open Finder and scroll through a huge list of apps to find that one app I rarely have to use and don't put in my dock. I do hope they change the way folders look.
Mac App Store - Fantastic! I central place to get applications is something that computers have been needing for a long time. Now I don't have to Google them to try and find the official Website, it's down-right stupid simple to download and install, updates are just as easy, and hopefully they take on the same prices that the iPhone App Store gets.
Mission Control - Great! Just yesterday I was using Expose with a PDF with huge screenshots of a Website with instructions, and it was difficult to tell which window was Safari and which was Preview. Now they have the app icon floating above them, so that solves that problem.
Hooray Lion! I can't wait to see what else Apple brings to it. *crosses fingers for tabbed Finder*
I agree that cloud computing is still in its infancy and far from perfect, but there are already good solutions to the scenarios you mention.
First, Chrome and others like it will have local caches that allow you access to your e-mail, documents, and probably even some of your media when you are offline. So in your scenario, you will be still able to compose e-mails and edit documents and then sync back with the cloud when you go online. Also, when you are offline, not much business gets done anyway. What happens in your office when the internet goes down? I work at a Fortune 500 company and see people literally standing around, because everything they do depends on e-mail, our CRM, the intranet, and a ton of other systems that require internet access. Not to mention, most iOS apps are web enabled and have very limited functionality without WiFi or 3G.
You mention hacking. Chrome actually has a brilliant security and anti-virus solution, wherein the OS is validated on boot up and re-downloaded if it has been does not match the server copy. And they have already introduced two-step verification for logging into cloud apps. This puts security above that of your average business laptop.
My point is that cloud computing is already a viable option being developed by many companies and no more dependent on an internet connection than most of the apps people use everyday. We all expect that Apple will someday transition iTunes to a cloud-based streaming model, update MobileMe, etc. In the short term, I am just anxious to see them provide alternatives to Google's very attractive web apps and offer more integration of their OS and desktop suite with the cloud. We didn't learn anything about that today.
Really???????? And no Lion beta today?????????? What the f is wrong with Apple lately??????????? F U
Like seriously, Q4 2010 has been the most disappointing time when it comes to Apple products. No iWeb, no iDVD, no Lion beta, no nothing.
Like seriously, Q4 2010 has been the most disappointing time when it comes to Apple products. No iWeb, no iDVD, no Lion beta, no nothing.
No Jimmy you are wrong. That's not the full screen apple are talking about, you can already do that in os x software. They are talking about a paradigm shift here where the app not only takes the full uncluttered view of your screen, but where you can flick through full screens with simple gestures without maximizing or minimizing or entering or exiting full screen views, and you can view full screens in an expose type of interface too, and where programs running on full screen can seamlessly merge with not only other applications but with the desktop interface itself. And guess what, you just have to flick through them. It's that simple.
Now let's try a tree finger swipe in windows, what does it do exactly?
There's quite a subtle difference there, but then again the devil is in the details.
But from your comment you have reminded everyone here why apple hasn't revealed more in their keynote today about os x lion. And yes it's those damn photocopiers at redmond, they've been working overtime today, so it's best to give them some work close to os x lion's launch and not right now with so much ample time for them to do their work.
Jimmy, you 've been here a long time too, let me get this right...now how do I put it... Just a question to see where you are coming from, can you or can you not resize windows to a smaller size in mac os x at the moment? I am really trying to figure out your comment so help me out.
I dig your dry humour.Really???????? And no Lion beta today?????????? What the f is wrong with Apple lately??????????? F U
Like seriously, Q4 2010 has been the most disappointing time when it comes to Apple products. No iWeb, no iDVD, no Lion beta, no nothing.
LOL!!! Fight fire with fire.
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It's weird how they actually say iPad in their OS slogan.
It's weird how they actually say iPad in their OS slogan.
not the same at all. typing on a touch screen isn't nearly as fluent as typing on a keyboard, like all computers with lion will be shipping with. (i hope). there's a reason why quicksilver is so coveted among mac users. it does almost everything you can do with a mouse with a few key strokes.
There's no way in life that they would let that "cat" out of the bag almost a year before it's release.
Exactly. I never use cover flow. Gets on my nerves.
I would have to agree with that.
I just brought a Mac.. and was just recently converted from Windows. I love OS X.. still some getting use to but when I watch the broadcast.. as I watch
I don't think I'm gonna like iOS elements integrated into OS X. and I agree with other who think this idea is stupid
I don't think I'm gonna like iOS elements integrated into OS X. and I agree with other who think this idea is stupid
