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Mac OS X Snow Leopard Build 10A432 Designated 'Golden Master'

HLdan said:
Well, good luck thinking that way. Just being my own prediction (and I do feel I'm right on this) the up to date disc for $9.95, the drop in disc and the $29 are all upgrade discs which will still allow for a full erase, format and install of Snow Leopard and each will require a install of Leopard as Apple has already documented.
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Where did Apple document that it will require an install of Leopard first? If Apple has done this then there wouldn't be massive confusions all over the place.
 
MikhailT said:
I tried to reproduce it but it works fine for me unless I am misunderstanding you.
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That sounds great. :) Would have been awfully embarrassing for Apple otherwise. On Leopard, when you've just entered the full-screen mode for a PDF file, the only way to advance to the next page is by opening up the index sheet or pressing the play button. Neither the on-screen arrows nor the arrow keys on the physical keyboard work at first.
 
tkermit said:
That sounds great. :) Would have been awfully embarrassing for Apple otherwise. On Leopard, when you've just entered the full-screen mode for a PDF file, the only way to advance to the next page is by opening up the index sheet or pressing the play button. Neither the on-screen arrows nor the arrow keys on the physical keyboard work at first.
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That's strange, I did do some full screen PDF reading on Leopard before and I didn't have any issue pressing next or clicking next button.
 
MikhailT said:
That's strange, I did do some full screen PDF reading on Leopard before and I didn't have any issue pressing next or clicking next button.
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Wait - what ? That is strange. I have reproduced this behavior on many different machines. To be sure: I'm strictly talking about the situation right after you've entered the full-screen mode. Once you've switched to another page by using the index-sheet or pressing the play-button the arrows will start to work.
 
MikhailT said:
Where did Apple document that it will require an install of Leopard first? If Apple has done this then there wouldn't be massive confusions all over the place.
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I really don't understand this, what part of this are you guys having a problem reading on Apple's website.

Here it is verbatim:
Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it’s available and follow the simple installation instructions.
 
HLdan said:
Well, good luck thinking that way. Just being my own prediction (and I do feel I'm right on this) the up to date disc for $9.95, the drop in disc and the $29 are all upgrade discs which will still allow for a full erase, format and install of Snow Leopard and each will require a install of Leopard as Apple has already documented.
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That's fine if you think that. There's nothing wrong with it until you tell people that as fact.

HLdan said:
I really don't understand this, what part of this are you guys having a problem reading on Apple's website.

Here it is verbatim:
Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it’s available and follow the simple installation instructions.
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That doesn't mean it'll be an upgrade. They're just assuming you've got Leopard on your drive.
 
I may be lucky on getting the SL.
they're opening up an apple store like 5 mins away from my house by car
I usually go to the mall, but this one is an actual apple store, and the mall takes about 35 min to go to. haha

but i can't wait!
 
3dwarehouse said:
answer to 1 Yes they do offer a family pack!
answer to 2 No they give you a upgrade disc, when I did the up to date program for leopard they sent me a leopard disc!

Hope This Helped
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Thanks for the info. But since the $29 SL disk is (presumably) also an upgrade
disk from Leopard -> Snow Leopard, does that mean that the up-to-date SL disk will be the same? I guess we'll just have to wait for it to come it for us to knwo for certain

Thanks
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
That's fine if you think that. There's nothing wrong with it until you tell people that as fact.



That doesn't mean it'll be an upgrade. They're just assuming you've got Leopard on your drive.
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OMG, WHATEVER!!! Stay in denial all you want. This will be my last post to you because I just can't ever have a fair conversation with you, you treat people as if they are dumbasses on here. Now, that being said, where did MR put the IGNORE filter?? Oh yeah, just found it, goodbye. :p
 
HLdan said:
OMG, WHATEVER!!! Stay in denial all you want. This will be my last post to you because I just can't ever have a fair conversation with you, you treat people as if they are dumbasses on here. Now, that being said, where did MR put the IGNORE filter?? Oh yeah, just found it, goodbye. :p
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I think what they're wondering is if you need Leopard to upgrade, more-so if you have a blank drive or want to do a clean install if thats still available on the $29 disc AFAIK.

Don't worry about me, though. I can wait until the release.
 
Stridder44 said:
Here's to hoping that $29 DVD doesn't require a previously installed version of Leopard and you can just do a clean install.
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I am sure that just like the 10.5 upgrade, 10.4 will have to be installed prior. Since OS X generally installs fast, I never found this an issue - just annoying. And with the 10.5 upgrade you could do a clean install (including erase) once it detected the Mac was eligible for upgrade.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Whoa... take a breather! It's 64-bit kernel and every included app is 64-bit. Finder, iTunes, Mail, Safari, Dashboard, etc. iLife and iWork excluded.
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iTunes, DVD Player and Front Row are not 64-bit in Snow Leopard. In fact, DVD Player and Front Row haven't even been updated. Obviously, iTunes development is separate from OS X applications.
 
J the Ninja said:
10.7 is inherently more interesting because we have no idea what it will consists of.
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... or what it won't.

I'd wager that it will be x64-only and multi-core only, so no upgrades for Core Duo and Core Solo systems. (No disagreement - I said here that Apple should never have used the 32-bit only Yonah chips.)

I wonder if support for the Intel GMA systems will be dropped - perhaps the lack of true 64-bit for (many?/most?/all?) those systems in 10.6 is a subtle warning.

Maybe with 10.6 Apple is also saying that 3 years after last sale is the cutoff point for support (that's the window for PPC systems in 10.6). If 10.7 comes out in mid 2011, and Apple applies the 3-year rule, then all of the following could be "deprecated":

  • MacBook Air
  • iMac (Early 2006)
  • MacBook Pro
  • Mac mini (Early 2006)
  • MacBook Pro (17-inch)
  • MacBook
  • iMac (Mid 2006)
  • Mac Pro
  • iMac (Late 2006)
  • Mac mini (Late 2006)
  • MacBook Pro (Late 2006)
  • MacBook (Late 2006)
  • Xserve (Late 2006)
  • MacBook (Mid 2007)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid 2007)
  • iMac (Mid 2007)
  • Mac mini (Mid 2007)
  • MacBook (Late 2007)
 
ortuno2k said:
Same here. That's one of my biggest fears. I always like to do clean installs - I NEVER upgrade, or install on top of an existing OS. Never did neither with Windows or now Mac OS X.

I hope we have an option for a CLEAN install. Apple - you better have listened to us and give us this option!
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Be prepared to be disappointed...
 
Veering off course - floppy disk duplication

GeekLawyer said:
Yes, exactly. They press the DVDs from the Gold Master.

(Takes me back to my AOL days -- it was a big deal when 3.0 went GM - of course we "pressed" HD floppies back in those days. And CDs, eventually. :))
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How did they make mass produced floppies such as the AOL diskettes? Were there companies set up with huge floppy drive farms for duplication at 50KB/s?
 
I'd say that it is most likely release candidate - as of 10A421a - massive numbers of Mac's weren't booting into 64bit kernel; my laptop has a X3100 GPU that is unsupported hence it falls back into 32bit kernel.

I truly will be pissed off if this is yet another attempt by Apple to screw customers over who have only had their machines for less than a year.
 
Those thinking about violating terms of use

Lets stay away from doing that. If you buy a copy of Snow Leopard - not a family pack for $29...don't go installing it on multiple machines.

If you give Apple business reason to implement the annoyances we hate so much such as "Activation". I have little doubt they would do so.

So lets stick to the rules...
 
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