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Mac OS X Snow Leopard Build 10A432 Designated 'Golden Master'
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There's a difference between being a mac user, and a being an "apple can do no wrong sheep."
Great. But a rise of 11 in the build figure doesn't fill me with confidence that it will be any less buggy 
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Might have to wait until 10.7 to fix bugs from 10.4/10.5.
.Might have to wait until 10.7 to fix bugs from 10.4/10.5.
After jumping in with Leopard at 10.5.0, I will not jump in with a new release until at least x.x.1 or even x.x.2.
Especially if the entire upgrade is minor under the hood improvements, why tolerate it until it is more refined and stable?
--HG
Especially if the entire upgrade is minor under the hood improvements, why tolerate it until it is more refined and stable?
--HG
You got it the other way. It is major under the hood improvements with minor feature and GUI changes.
cant' wait to give apple my money
mmmmm i love giving money to apple
i wish they could release more service packs so i could give them even more money
mmmmm i love giving money to apple
i wish they could release more service packs so i could give them even more money
Great. But a rise of 11 in the build figure doesn't fill me with confidence that it will be any less buggy
Might have to wait until 10.7 to fix bugs from 10.4/10.5.
If you're running Leopard: Here's an idiotic usability bug that I filed on 10.5.1. It was quickly flagged as a duplicate. 7 Updates later, nothing has changed...
Try opening a multi-page PDF file and then press Shift-Command-F (for a full-screen slideshow). Now click on the arrow pointing to the right and see if you advance to the next page
.Hint: Now press play, wait till it automatically advances to the next page and then go back. Suddenly the rightward-arrow works.
Gives you real confidence in Apple's ability to catch up with reported bugs. Admittedly this one only limits usability and probably never manages to get high up in Apple's bug priority queue, but still, it makes you wonder...
If you're running Leopard: Here's an idiotic usability bug that I filed on 10.5.1. It was quickly flagged as a duplicate. 7 Updates later, nothings has changed...
Try opening a multi-page PDF file and then press Shift-Command-F (for a full-screen slideshow). Now click on the arrow pointing to the right and see if you advance to the next page
Hint: Now press play, wait till it automatically advances to the next page and then go back. Suddenly the right-arrow works.
Gives you real confidence in Apple's ability to catch up with reported bugs. Admittedly this one only limits usability and probably never manages to get high up in Apple's bug priority queue, but still, it makes you wonder...
don't worry it will only cost you 70$ and 2 years until 10.7 is out for this to be fixed! praise apple
If you're running Leopard: Here's an idiotic usability bug that I filed on 10.5.1. It was quickly flagged as a duplicate. 7 Updates later, nothings has changed...
Try opening a multi-page PDF file and then press Shift-Command-F (for a full-screen slideshow). Now click on the arrow pointing to the right and see if you advance to the next page
Hint: Now press play, wait till it automatically advances to the next page and then go back. Suddenly the right-arrow works.
Gives you real confidence in Apple's ability to catch up with reported bugs. Admittedly this one only limits usability and probably never manages to get high up in Apple's bug priority queue, but still, it makes you wonder...
I think you are supposed to click the 'down' arrow.
The king is dead, long live the king is an phrase used when a king dies and is mean to at the same time mourn his death as well as rejoice the accension of his successor to the crown.
So, the king, Leopard, is dead, long live the king, Snow Leopard.
it is most likely end of September, but why if it is final today, would they wait a month and a half??
they should exceed expectations and release it before September.
i hope aapl would explode for that.
the family pack is just shy.
they should exceed expectations and release it before September.
i hope aapl would explode for that.
nope its orders over 50.
the family pack is just shy.
We should see two or three minor updates by the end of the year.
Anybody else beside me who is more far interested in 10.7 than 10.6?
Snow Leopard is a huge under the hood upgrade, more than most uses of the term "under the hood". There's a noticeable, appreciable jump in horse power.
Also, SL won't be like leopard in terms of stability and bugs in the first few versions. 10.6.1 at the latest. I'm using 10a421 right now (and used one of the last developer builds before Leopard was released) and can tell you its more stable now than Leopard was at 10.5.1.
Parallels, Adobe CS4, iWork, Evernote, Quicksilver(the current beta build), Transmission, NetNewsWire, VLC, as well as all the included apps (Preview, Mail, Safari, etc.) all run snappy and stable as far as I can tell. 10.6 even fixes an issue with spaces and CS4 that kept me from using spaces in leopard.
those worried about 64 vs 32 bit: it's not as complicated as it sounds. Unless you've got more than 4gb of RAM and are looking for max out the performance of your apps this is not much of an issue. And though it all works in the background, like Rosetta did with the ppc-intel switch, there is NOT the performance hit you had running PPC only apps on intel. 32 bit apps in SL are as fast as they were in Leopard, faster even if they take advantage of Grand Central, OpenCL, etc.
Some applications, particularly utilities, plugins, and preference panes that tie into the OS more than most will need to be upgraded. I'm not using Growl, Perian, some menu bar items; apps like that.
There's not nearly enough buzz about SL, based on some idea that it's only "under the hood" improvements. People drop $2000 on a new computer for a speed-up of this caliber. I'm experiencing more speed improvements from SL than from upgrading my MBP from Core Duo (2GB of RAM) to Core 2 Duo (4 GB of RAM).
10.7 is inherently more interesting because we have no idea what it will consists of. I'm sure we'll all be disappointed when our crazy fantasies don't pan out, just like with 10.6.
im guessing they wouldnt sell SnowLeopard Up-to-date for 9.95$ and then the same version retail for $29
So like the up-to-date for Leopard had the upgrade option and ONCE you install Leopard over Tiger you can then use the Leopard Up2Date to do clean installs etc etc.
Im wondering if the Retail version will be both upgrade/full install...im wondering if it will identify the hardware and say "Oh hey you have a Mid 2009 MacBookPro" and all you to do a clean install without having Leopard installed or doing double installs.
Not sure how good that would be, but just an idea.
Im excited to see the improvements with SnowLeopard.
I wish I could get a decent deal on CS4, as Im still using CS2 on my Leopard install.
Photoshop/Flash/Dreamweaver ~ Way toooo much for my pocket book to upgrade to CS4 and not sure hwo the upgrade from CS2 to CS4 will work out or if it can.
Hopefully CS2 will continue to operate for me for the next year (under SL) until i can plop some cash down for the upgrades.
So like the up-to-date for Leopard had the upgrade option and ONCE you install Leopard over Tiger you can then use the Leopard Up2Date to do clean installs etc etc.
Im wondering if the Retail version will be both upgrade/full install...im wondering if it will identify the hardware and say "Oh hey you have a Mid 2009 MacBookPro" and all you to do a clean install without having Leopard installed or doing double installs.
Not sure how good that would be, but just an idea.
Im excited to see the improvements with SnowLeopard.
I wish I could get a decent deal on CS4, as Im still using CS2 on my Leopard install.
Photoshop/Flash/Dreamweaver ~ Way toooo much for my pocket book to upgrade to CS4 and not sure hwo the upgrade from CS2 to CS4 will work out or if it can.
Hopefully CS2 will continue to operate for me for the next year (under SL) until i can plop some cash down for the upgrades.
Well, good luck thinking that way. Just being my own prediction (and I do feel I'm right on this) the up to date disc for $9.95, the drop in disc and the $29 are all upgrade discs which will still allow for a full erase, format and install of Snow Leopard and each will require a install of Leopard as Apple has already documented.
I don't believe for one minute that the $29 version can be installed on an empty hard drive. How could it anyway since Apple requires you to be a Leopard user. I know some of you WANT it to be a different way but if you think that the $29 version is the "Full" retail copy that can be installed on an empty hard drive then explain to me why Apple said it's for "Leopard users".
I never said regular and family pack versions weren't the same. Not sure why you said that to me in the first place.