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Mac pro r display, disappointing
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When did I state this? Never. Do you have the capability of rational thought and basic communication. Your so off target it's not relivent?
My point: The computer doesn't have an Ethernet port. This was obvious from day 1. You bought it anyway. Now you rant to us crying that Apple cheated you. Return the laptop, buy something else.
I much prefer Mac OS to Windows. I was hoping for rational thought on this list. Didn't realize that people are so branded by Apple that they cannot see beyond its marketing.
These are very real concerns and think anyone who is buying a computer should be aware of the issues. The limited ports available on the new design laptop dose post challenges in a demanding work environment. Apples marketing led me to believe this is a computer designed for such demanding enviroments. However I have learnt that I can buy additional connectors that could help me. Previoustly the shop advised I get the USB to Ethernet. This then left me with 1 free USB to plug multiple drives. All in, 2USB on a machine with this power is very poor. On an Air I can understand, but not on the pro. Considering the cost of the computer, neededing to buy additional hardware is Apple not solving the problem.
The screen is a serious issue. The image does blur the higher res you go. I'm convinced this is a software issue and not hardware so I may see a fix in the future. But again, apple marketing is not accurate. They claim very different to what I'm experiencing. Contrary to what others have suggested, my eyesight is good. The problem is the screen.
Should be aware? You bought the $2,000 product and you weren't even aware.
The fact you seriously bought a $2,000 product with such little knowledge about it, nullifies ANY argument you may have.
You're logic is basically like, if I were to buy a new car from Nissan.. only to realize AFTER I bought it, that it has no backseat.. then rant saying it's Nissans fault for not including a backseat in this model car. Are there other cars with backseats for my kids? Sure, but I bought the one without it so I must obviously rant on a forums blaming Nissan for my poor consumerism skills.
That's actually something that is plainly advertised, much like they added notations to ram and hard drive upgrades indicating that such configuration options must be added at time of purchase. It's stuff like this that annoys me. Your only method of research in certain areas involves the experiences of others (that and when looking at average power consumption on the parts used, it's quite a lot to put on an 85W adapter). It's a bit different from the ethernet thing where it's clearly advertised. I'm still surprised that given how much Apple pushes their notebook lines, they don't offer something like an optional 125W adapter. That heat has to be dissipated whether it's coming from the power brick or the internal battery.
In the case of dongles, some people do not seem to understand them. They don't provide some of the security features commonly available with ethernet, and they can be hit and miss when trying to connect. Dongles tend to be cheaply manufactured items regardless of where you purchase them. I've purchased the Apple ones and off brands. They're all garbage, so it's generally recommended to also have a backup if you're going on the road given their disposable/fragile nature.
That's exactly what you have done though by not doing the slightest bit of research about a computer that you've spent nearly $3000 on, isn't it? If you were prepared to look past the marketing and even read just one review about it you would have found about the ethernet port and the USB ports and as a result could have made a more educated decision about it. Or looked at the photos on the Apple website.
Unfortunately after making an error like that and blaming it on Apple's marketing team, you're going to lose a lot of credibility every single time you mention that this machine doesn't suit the needs of a "pro" - because most professionals (heck, most people!) would check if a computer matches their needs by reading up a little bit about it, before buying.
You could have gleamed all of this information from a quick glance at the specifications page. I assume people do that before buying a computer. It's not like you're giving us incredible secret information.
Here is an odd thought. Maybe not everyone is experiencing what you experience. Crazy stuff.
Return the computer and buy another old shape MBP. That's the most rational advice anyone can give you. You don't like it and that's ok, but plenty of people find the screen and the connectivity to be perfectly fine. Marketing has nothing to do with it and you're insulting everybody that finds this computer to be perfectly suitable by telling them that they are blinded by Apple's marketing. My eyes tell me it's fine and I couldn't give two dimes about Apple's marketing. I don't buy products based on marketing. Your immature insults are very unnecessary and not conducive to a rational debate. Just because your eyesight is not quite right it does not mean that everybody has the same problem.
It's probably worth pointing out that the MBPr DOES have Gigabit Ethernet support. It has an onboard Broadcom BCM57100 series Gigabit Ethernet/Memory Card reader controller. It just lacks the RJ45 connector. You need the Thunderbolt/GigE adapter to connect to it (explaining why the adapter is only $29, by the way). This is a far cry from the computer not having Ethernet. Frankly, I think needing the adapter for the rare times you won't be using WiFi is a great trade-off for being able to deliver a computer as thin and light-weight as the MBPr.
No its not, wifi is nowhere near the bandwidth of gigabit ethernet and businesses and many people like myself rely on it.
In a sense I think you're splitting hairs. Yes, there is a chipset inside the laptop, but I have no way of connecting the laptop to my router w/o shelling out more money. Dongles are not always the best answer. I won't debate whether it was a good/bad decision, because its moot, but i do need it.
I found the bandwidth to be severely lacking when hooking up to my NAS for backups, or just general usage. I easily saturated the wifi bandwidth, by streaming music, surfing and accessing data on my NAS.
I did care about the screen, that was the key selling point. It's the blur I didn't expect on the higher res settings, thus making the screen redundant to any advantages after spending the extra cash. Without the screen I would have kept the cash. The Ethernet was something I overlooked. I didn't expect it to be missing. It's an industry standard peace of kit for any performance computer.
If it's an industry standard, why is it missing on the Airs? Also, how do you fit an Ethernet port on the MBPR without making it look out of place with the rest of the chassis?
Use the screen at 2880 x 1800, not any of the HiDPI settings, and certainly not the "Best for Retina" setting.
Multiple people have also suggested the same on the screen in higher res modes. I'm not the only one. Apple almost admit it themselves, claiming applications need to be developed for the retina display, which is an insane concept for a PC environment. I understand if the icons become too small, but if everything inherits a blur due to poor OS intergration, I dont believe this is acceptable.
My Comments on Apple marketing is really aimed at Apple, not other consumers. They are making claims that are false. The screen quality is impaired on high levels.
If my comments on apple marketing insult you, it was not my intention. People can be very aggressive on this list. I might have become a little think skinned.
Multiple people have also suggested that they do not see the issue. Making judgements based on a couple of persons' subjective opinions is not a wise course of action.
In theory, fractional scaling causes blurring. In practice, 1920x1200 scaled looks MUCH SHARPER than 1920x1200 on my 17" MBP.
But I have the device and the problem is very clear. My comments are not based on a couple of people's opinions. It's not subjective, in the two higher settings the screen is blurred.
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This is interesting. On text the problem is more noticeable than an image. I'm certain this is a software issue, not a hardware issue. Haveing the screen set to these resolutions is the key advantage to the display.
My screen is not blurred, unless you are using applications that do their own custom rendering. Either wait for those to be updated or return the computer.
If your eyes are good enough to see blur at 1920x1200, then get SetResX and set it to native resolution. It shouldn't be a problem for your apparently amazing vision. And I disagree that the 2 intermediate scaled resolutions are the key advantage to the display. If you need the most space, set it to native. If you need a larger interface, set it to "best for retina".
So you didn't research the system, bought because you thought the name "Pro" meant that it would have all the specifications that you wanted and then didn't return the system when you found it didn't meet your needs?
I have multiple laptops myself. On my home systems, I have never used the ethernet port on them. On my work system, I have a docking station and the ethernet and usb devices are plugged into that so I've never actually used the ethernet port on that system either. I don't know what solutions in the Apple world would be equivalent to a docking station but I figure if my primary work environment required an RJ45 ethernet connector, then I'd buy the dongle and attach it to the ethernet cable. It isn't much different than when modems started disappearing from laptops and dongles were required. I'm guessing this isn't that much different.
I have multiple laptops myself. On my home systems, I have never used the ethernet port on them. On my work system, I have a docking station and the ethernet and usb devices are plugged into that so I've never actually used the ethernet port on that system either. I don't know what solutions in the Apple world would be equivalent to a docking station but I figure if my primary work environment required an RJ45 ethernet connector, then I'd buy the dongle and attach it to the ethernet cable. It isn't much different than when modems started disappearing from laptops and dongles were required. I'm guessing this isn't that much different.
I don't know what your needs are, but I'm pretty sure a quad core i7 and 8 gigs of RAM are enough to last most people at least 4-5 years. As for the limited storage options on the base model, we are moving towards cloud storage anyway. And how much does it cost to get a 1 TB USB3 drive (it's like $100 on amazon)
My wrong what? Oh, you meant "you're."
Too bad the fold out part is incredibly tacky. Not many plastic parts on this MacBook Pro. Imagine something like that on the MBPr. That'd stick out like a sore thumb. Sorry. It's not a solution.
So if the screen is redundant, you can get a Macbook Pro without.
Ethernet isn't industry standard anymore, many machines don't come with it these days. That doesn't change that Apple supplies an adaptor that doesn't take any USB ports.
I think you have valid concerns & arguments, but it sounds like your #1 concern is a lack of ethernet on the computer correct? Yes, I think it would actually make more sense for Apple to include the TB to Ethernet adapter in the rMBP box - but that wouldn't prevent me from not purchasing it. I just dropped $2k + on a laptop, another $30 is 1.5% of the total cost. Not really worth the time and effort (for me) to be upset about it.
I just got mine in and set it to the 1920x1200 mode. Honestly it looks fine to me. Not quite as crisp as "best for retina", but still looks about as good as native 1920 displays to me.