Mac Sales Continue to Slide Amid Lack of Updates
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Bruce Oksol
macrumors regular
I'm fanboy #3 -- grabbed that spot years ago -- although I probably share it with thousands. I think it's a huge testament to Apple's quality products that upgrades in this area not seen as all that important . Not much reason to update something just for the sake of updating something.
Having said that, I'm disappointed they seem to be constrained by the iPhone (and perhaps the AppleWatch) but that, too, will take care of itself.
My hunch is that Apple has much bigger fish to fry than upgrading non-mobile hardware/software products.
DarthMoops
macrumors regular
I got a good chuckle out of the idea that Dell and especially HP do nothing but try to sell PCs.
Bruce Oksol
macrumors regular
It was a 13.4% decline in the GROWTH RATE, but as you noted, a 7.4% decline in number of units shipped quarter over quarter. GROWTH RATE is different than raw numbers of units shipped.
Kaibelf
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Yeah they should just rush things out to market so that people can whine about how it's not innovative. Sure worked for Samsung. I'd rather Apple come up with something dazzling and well-done rather than do a series of half-steps so that armchair quarterbacks don't complain for a month.
rowspaxe
macrumors 68020
I disagree. Win 10 is fine for me in tablet or desktop mode. The real problem is instability introduced by Microsoft's aggressive updates, like the forced 8.1 to 10 debacle, or the problematic "anniversary" win 10 release. What is most upsetting is the updates provide such little value: cortana, notifications, sticky notes... I wish MS would focus on power and sleep/wake issues: its so basic
Feenician
macrumors 603
mr.steevo
macrumors 65816
jujufreeze
macrumors 6502a
Sad!
Branflaakes
macrumors 6502
Frankly, I've been using computers ever since I was 5-6, with a Dell Dimensions 4550 that my dad purchased, so I can say I've more or less grown up around desktops and then laptops. I've initially had slight problems with the shallow keyboard, but I've adapted over the span of a week. Most of my friends in college who own the MacBook also have adapted to the keyboard within a week. Literally every one of my friends who've complained about the keyboard either touched it in Best Buy for 5 mins, or read about it and decided to join the sheep herd to complain. You adapt to it and now I type faster on it than I do on the rMBP keyboard.
Assuming that you HAVE given the keyboard a full week, then do you have the right to complain. Funny thing is a lot of people who do complain are just armchair critics. However almost everyone I've known (a young demographic, 18-25, but quite a good number of people because of university) who own a MacBook got used to and likes the keyboard after a week.
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I've been laughing out loud for 10 minutes and counting at this post...How long should I "stay tuned" for?
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fourthtunz
macrumors 68000
I'll defend the last great Macs, the 2012 lineup!
I just bought a 2012 MACBOOK PRO I7 2.7 quad with a dvd drive 16 gigs ram for $850!
AWESOME! And I think removing the DVD drive was asinine.
Oh well, apple makes good phones.
59Burst
macrumors member
Apple died with Steve Jobs. They've just been coasting for the last 5 years. Nothing reallly innovative anymore. Just rehashes of the same tired products.
Balaamsdonkey
macrumors 6502
Maybe they forgot it was October?
I would normally agree with this, but I don't consider years between upgrades, as anything remotely 'rushed'.
I mean a 2014 Mac mini with a Haswell chip is simply just neglect.
dotnet
macrumors 68000
Same here. The lease on my mid-2014 15" i7 1TB SSD 16GB MBP ran out in September. I usually upgrade every two years. This time I've decided to keep the Mac for another two years, simply because there is nothing wrong with it, it handles everything I throw at it with ease and it's still very well-specced, esp. compared to what my coworkers on their Windows laptops have to contend with.
A number of friends of mine are ready to upgrade, and they will certainly not buy the current models. They'll wait for the new models to come out, that's just common sense.
Osty
macrumors 6502a
I've said much the same thing. Swift is officially supported by Apple for Linux. At the moment it's to create backend services but it I can easily imagine a world where they release Xcode for Ubuntu.
You'd be surprised how many people run desktop Linux. I was listening to a Podcast where a couple of Canonical employees actually laughed at a Tim Cook quote saying their were 80 million Mac users worldwide. A lot of the OEMs sited in the OP are selling millions of computers per quarter in China and India with Linux.
I gave up being excited about next-gen connectivity when Thunderbolt fizzled out and died. I'll be interested when USB-C and Thunderbolt peripherals are as cheap, well supported and plentiful as standard USB2/3 stuff
Balaamsdonkey
macrumors 6502
How was it asinine? There is no advantage to an optical drive over a USB port. It just makes the device heavier and eats up more space; not to mention there would be less room for battery.
scoobydoo99
Cancelled
plus the use of "amid" instead of "amidst". A very subtle usage variation, but it's very jarring as it reads.
Everyone is freaking out. Look, Intel processor speed has all but bottomed out recently with most of Intel's focus being on more mobile processors. The technology that Apple expected to be there last year, was delayed. Namely, they are looking to move to USB-C and easy-to-connect 5K cinema displays. This all requires the technology to align and produced in quantity to allow for a viable launch window.
Apple ALWAYS announces and releases new hardware in October after the iPhone announcement. I also expect that they will announce new iPad Pro models with an A10X chip.
Apple doesn't release something until it's ready to be released. They don't even bother to change specs if they are planning an imminent release. This takes a good deal of focus and if they've waited this long and allowed sales to drop, then I suspect that something big is coming.
My hope is that Apple is working to bring chip design for laptops in-house to get around this Intel bottleneck, perhaps on their lower-powered MacBook line.
Regardless of what IDC or Gartner says, Apple is still the largest manufacturer of PCs when you include iPads. I think that Apple would be wise to convert iPad users into the Mac ecosystem at some point with a product that bridges those gaps.
Apple ALWAYS announces and releases new hardware in October after the iPhone announcement. I also expect that they will announce new iPad Pro models with an A10X chip.
Apple doesn't release something until it's ready to be released. They don't even bother to change specs if they are planning an imminent release. This takes a good deal of focus and if they've waited this long and allowed sales to drop, then I suspect that something big is coming.
My hope is that Apple is working to bring chip design for laptops in-house to get around this Intel bottleneck, perhaps on their lower-powered MacBook line.
Regardless of what IDC or Gartner says, Apple is still the largest manufacturer of PCs when you include iPads. I think that Apple would be wise to convert iPad users into the Mac ecosystem at some point with a product that bridges those gaps.
For those that can work with a desktop and up for a tinkering...... Hackintosh people. Just buy the right parts. Running a 4.8 Ghz Skylake system, with 16 GB DDR4 3600 RAM, 4x 500GB SSD's, 2x 780 EVGA Classifeds that will soon be replaced with a 1080 (as soon as Nvidia release the drivers).
Thats the only way to stick it to Apple. Sadly, if you want a laptop, you're stuck.
Thats the only way to stick it to Apple. Sadly, if you want a laptop, you're stuck.
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