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Mac Sales Continue to Slide Amid Lack of Updates
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I stopped building my own computers about a decade ago but that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. The first one I built was a 386 and the last was for someone else which, iirc, was an early Core 2 Duo. Anyway, like I said, each to their own. If you're happy, I'm happy for you.
..yes, that's why next time my mom is having a new pc, it's going to be a Chromebook
Just curious what you think that the majority of people who use Macbook Pro's won't be able to do on those "low power" Kaby Lake CPU's? You think everyone that buys a MBP edits 4K video professionally? If Apple can sell a 5K iMac with a spinny hard drive instead of a SSD, what makes you think a highly capable CPU like the Kaby Lake low-power won't suffice for most users?
I find the current 6th gen "U" series (I assume that is the series you are speaking of) very capable for everything I do in Windows 10. Since the Macbook now has the really low end m7 series, it makes sense for MBP to have an i7-7000U series CPU in a thinner chassis that could even be fanless.
I had no choice but to get something to replace a dead Mac while waiting for the new releases. Went with a 2014 Mac Mini. Very pleasantly surprised. Back in business in 2 days counting shipping. Ample fast. Most of us don't need the latest and flashiest.
There is a ton of innovation in the Mac Pro. Don't **** on innovation because you don't like it.
How do you know some of these people here don't have a physical handicap? Otherwise, when you consider the amount of stuff in my bag, another few lbs will be the tipping point, as could be the case with many others. There's no amount of core strength that's going to prevent shoulder issues from carrying a laptop bag.
If Apple put a U series in a MacBook Pro the sound of crying about not being "Pro" will be heard two galaxies over. Anyway, apart from anything else, I don't thing a U series Kaby will be much, if any, faster (certainly a bit more efficient though) than the current Haswell chips so really, what's the point?
4. Apple's 10 year contract for Intel processors expires(ed) this year.
Yes, it's totally baffling to me why Apple leaves so many sales on the table. If they are not receiving generationally better chips from Intel, they should at least upgrade to slightly faster chips every half year. I've been waiting a year and a half to upgrade my Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. It looks like hackintosh is the best route if you want good performance and value while you wait for the real deal. Fingers crossed new MBPs are coming next week.
Or they could just use dGPU instead?
Other manufacturers have had Skylake processors in their laptops for some months. It isn't necessary for Apple t
Other manufacturers have had Skylake processors in their laptops for some months. It isn't necessary for Apple t
Didn't know that. And that's assuming that the contract hasn't been renewed, even if for a shorter term.
I see graphic designers, video editors, people who work in hollywood, everyday users, business users with MacBook Pros that are at least 5 years old. They don't seem to be complaining. I think a lot of the want for the latest and greatest is a psychological issue. More of a want than a need. Sure, you want to have the latest, but if your 2008, 2009, 2010 or even 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch were to break, are you saying the 2014 Haswell models wouldn't be sufficient? 16 GBs of RAM, Core i7, Iris or Discrete graphics, fash Flash is not good enough?
I can bet the most stress most of you ever put on your Macs is loading Macrumors and TMZ.
I can bet the most stress most of you ever put on your Macs is loading Macrumors and TMZ.
Gartner's sales estimates add substantial credibility to MR's collective anecdotal observations, so an obvious title can be forgiven.
The Skylake processors other OEMs have been using all utilize the non-Iris / non-Iris Pro integrated GPUs. The Macbook Pros have always utilized Intel Iris (13" MBP) & Intel Iris Pro (15" MBP) integrated GPUs. The Skylake processors utilizing the Intel 580 Iris Pro GPU only came out this summer.
I actually love and own everything Apple but they need to get rid of Phil Schiller (he killed the Mac Mini) and get rid of the 1" ridiculous black bezels on all their screens. I hate my 27" iMac because of that.
To be able to make it even thinner, and get rid of the Macbook Air series which at this point is almost the redheaded stepchild in their line. Macbook is wafer thin and decently powerful for office apps and mobile work, and Macbook Pro could be much thinner than it is now, and with the i7 "U" series and a PCI-e SSD, a formidable notebook for those needing more power.
Apple doesn't seem too interested in the Mac PRO world lately...ask any Mac Pro owner.
Going to an Apple reseller and looking at the same old Apple sales tables with Ipads, Macbooks, Imacs is the most boring pieces of consumer electronics ever... The sales staff must really be extraordinary mindf.... standing and selling the "same" boring products (and looks and features) the last, what,5 years - over and over again?!
rMBP is for users who want the fastest mobile processor that Apple offers. I really don't think they'll put any less than the best they can source in it, when they do move to a new gen. Not that I'm saying your idea is bad, I just don't think that's how it'll play out.
As for the Air, well second guessing Apple rarely ends well but, while I'll be a little surprised if it gets a refresh, I wouldn't rule it out.
What? Schiller is not in charge of Mac hardware design. He is the senior vp of marketing... if you're mad at Mac hardware blame Dan Riccio.
there's no "ten year intel contract" that's a complete and utter fabrication
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Look into Apple's organizational structure. Phil is part of *every* decision at Apple.
Quoting because this graph got buried, and it should be a part of the main article.
The red ones are currently shipping Macs. Green marks previous updates.
You'll be forgiven for wondering if the entire Mac hardware team was either reassigned or laid off well over a year ago.
Agreed.
If one is trying to compare a "gaming" laptop performance to a MBP, it's no comparison... Gaming laptops will always win. Apple will balance what it thinks is battery life, portability and performance.
I see lots of graphics/video users, everyday users, business users, with new and old MBP. I don't see many professionals with a "gaming" laptop. And I've never seen an enterprise using "gaming" laptops.
Above all, though, I see way more Macbooks than Macbook Pros (just my observations). It leads me to suspect that the most Macbooks are good enough for performance for the average users and business users - and that portability, battery, usability (OS), etc plays heavier factors in their choice.
In large enterprises (government, finance, etc), it's Windows based laptops all-the-way still. But it's not a choice of performance, but rather the choice OS of enterprise is still Windows.
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