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Mac Shipments Down in Q3 2019 Amid Overall Worldwide PC Market Growth

"Life is great on my Thinkpad Carbon X1! "

The battery lasts for more than 2 hours? There is a powerful bug in the firmware, and Lenovo does not fix it.
Also overheating is great problem.
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"iMacs still ship with spinning fusion drives.

You can buy SSD.
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99% of this forum is frustrated Apple-hating people.
 
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citysnaps said:
Two years on my 2017 MBP. Zero issues and a delight to use everyday. And...a keyboard that lets me type faster and with greater accuracy.
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Two years on my 2017 MBP and the 'g' key doesn't type half the time and the 'x' key sticks half the time. Luckily I have a docking station at my desk so I can use a real keyboard.

On my Das Keyboard, I don't have to mash my pinky a billion times to know I hit escape. I don't trigger Siri hitting the backspace key.

I had to tweak my touchbar to just remove the damn Siri button and then put a bunch of empty space there so I don't embarrasingly unmute my sound during a meeting.
 
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I wonder what would have happened if we'd had a decent Macbook keyboard and reasonable pricing.
 
citysnaps said:
Well, yeah...

My 2017 MBP, used for many hours a day over the last two years, continues to delight. Beautiful screen, fast, outstanding keyboard that lets me type faster and more accurately, great I/O, reliable, all in a compact and lightweight package.

As my MBP continues to exceed my expectations, why would I be in the market for another one? Maybe in a few years.
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My 2017 MBP, used for a few hours every other week now, over the last two year, continues to disappoint. Beautiful screen, flat, loud, no key travel keyboard that lets me make typo's faster and better than ever. Single port type ensures that Apple and others make really good money off of the expensive dongles I have to purchase. It is reliable, and compact in a lightweight package.

As my MBP continues to remind me that Apple is all about form over function when it comes to laptops, why would I ever be in the market for another one? Maybe in a few decades.

True story....I work in IT, security. There was a sensitive issue at work. I was given a large video download from a security DVR and asked to convert the video into a format others could view. I purchased some conversion software for my MBP. It was a 4gig video file, I kicked off the conversion with my MBP closed and plugged into a 4K monitor. This MBP is loaded, 15inch, i7, 16gig of RAM, 1TB SSD, whatever top of the line AMD GPU that is in it. With in a few min, the fans blast on really loud, so I gently take the MBP out of the stand that sits it upright/closed and open the lid to give it more heat escape. Just over an hour later the conversion is done. The CPU was railed the whole time, which is typical for video work.

The MBP was plugged in the whole time, with the larger 85watt Apple USB-C charger. The battery had dropped from 100% to around 81%. Basically the load was draining the battery faster than the charger could replenish it. Had it been a really long conversion, I guess it would have just shut off when the battery completely drained??? Pro it is NOT in any way shape or form.

Type from my Lenovo T-580 with a keyboard Mac fans can only dream of.
 
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They could greatly reduce the touchbar complaints by adding haptic feedback when you push the 'esc' key (or any button the bar), so at least it FEELS like you pressed something.
 
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One need to realize that the numbers of shipments from PC OEMs (especially the top 3, Lenovo, Dell, and HP) are mostly from enterprise contracts, not consumer use. The fact that Apple even on this list considering Apple mostly focused on consumers is quite fascinating.
 
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Funny how so many read this as bad news. The 4th best selling computer maker in the world. In an industry overwhelmingly led by Windows. Pretty darn good. I am thrilled with the Mac Mini I bought this year. Apple continues to make incredible computers.
 
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Perhaps if they made better laptops with better keyboards and without the crappy Touch Bar for a better price? I've been waiting 8 years to buy a new MBP, and I sure as hell won't be doing that unless they redesign the MBP or make a product that is worth the money. Also, how about upgrading desktop computers to keep up with the times? My 2015 iMac will soon need to be replaced, but the current lineup is terrible. Who in their right mind would spend $3k+ for obsolete technology? And no, I'm not paying $6k+ for a Mac Pro...
 
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aimson911 said:
Perhaps if they made better laptops with better keyboards and without the crappy Touch Bar for a better price? I've been waiting 8 years to buy a new MBP, and I sure as hell won't be doing that unless they redesign the MBP or make a product that is worth the money. Also, how about upgrading desktop computers to keep up with the times? My 2015 iMac will soon need to be replaced, but the current lineup is terrible. Who in their right mind would spend $3k+ for obsolete technology? And no, I'm not paying $6k+ for a Mac Pro...
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What Apple needs to do is review their vintage/obsolete policy, and make it longer for their computers (like maybe 10 years), and support their much older OSes. That will attract more enterprises to use Macs. Companies don't want to have a perfectly running Mac that is suddenly become obsolete just because Apple says so, or with a non-supported OS just 2 years after purchase.

In comparison, Microsoft is still offering support for Windows 7, and companies can pay for support for Windows 7 until 2023. Not only that, majority of PC boxes are modular with common parts.
 
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I’ll be glad when Apple releases the 16” MacBook Pro with none of the stuff you Luddites are crying about so that you’ll move on to whatever Windows-based slice of Heaven you want to glom onto and regret after the first 90 days.
 
Hackintosh! Better graphics, better keyboard, user upgradeable ram, ssds, liquid cooling. Hate to say it but when I need a new laptop, ill be adding a Surface Pro.
 
pika2000 said:
What Apple needs to do is review their vintage/obsolete policy, and make it longer for their computers (like maybe 10 years), and support their much older OSes. That will attract more enterprises to use Macs. Companies don't want to have a perfectly running Mac that is suddenly become obsolete just because Apple says so, or with a non-supported OS just 2 years after purchase.

In comparison, Microsoft is still offering support for Windows 7, and companies can pay for support for Windows 7 until 2023. Not only that, majority of PC boxes are modular with common parts.
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Apple has never cared about attracting the Enterprise. The Enterprise is the antithesis of progress and to embrace those shackles willingly is the path to truly becoming Microsoft and Dell all rolled up into one. Thank God brighter minds will prevail.

EDIT: Most Enterprises are on a three year rotation anyways, and Apple already provides Security Updates for High Sierra, Mojave and Catalina, so that’s already covered.
 
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pika2000 said:
One need to realize that the numbers of shipments from PC OEMs (especially the top 3, Lenovo, Dell, and HP) are mostly from enterprise contracts, not consumer use. The fact that Apple even on this list considering Apple mostly focused on consumers is quite fascinating.
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You're right... it's weird to lump Macintosh sales in with ALL computers including bulk enterprise sales.

But that's the way it has always been.

It's kinda like Apple being on the list of "smartphone sales" when the list includes $50 Android burner phones that are sold in a blister-pack at a gas station... :p

It's probably best to not put too much importance on these charts.
 
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Zdigital2015 said:
Apple has never cared about attracting the Enterprise. The Enterprise is the antithesis of progress and to embrace those shackles willingly is the path to truly becoming Microsoft and Dell all rolled up into one. Thank God brighter minds will prevail.
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Yes, thus the irony here how people think that this is a bad news, while in fact it’s amazing that Apple can even be in the list considering their product segmentation.
 
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