Mac Updates on Tuesday? More in September?

[tekmoe]

Damn you Apple.

bluetorch, you let us all down!@#

 

[vega07]

Damn you Apple.

YES.

DAMN YOU APPLE.

 

[Apple Corps]

Broken clock continues :-(

As I mentioned in an earlier post - even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day. It is sooooooo obvious that most of the sources do not know what the hell they are talking about. We have been awaiting some type of movie product for a year now / Mac mini upgrades / various Merom based notebook upgrades / an Apple cell phone / new wide screen video iPods / a "home enterainment device" / massive shipments arriving today from Asia / and some others I can not remember at the moment.

New Merom based MBPs since before WWDC, well - at WWDC, now every Tuesday since WWDC - now Mac Expo.

Damn near every probable product has been predicted for so long now...

 

[CPTMONK]

i think we will see the Merom update on the 12th, apple cant hold out any longer because the competition is already ahead of them, and why wouldnt they update

1. the chip is out and ready to roll
2. the MBP is behind other laptops out there, and apple will have to update
3. the only reason it can possibly take this long is because there getting the old MPB's out and stocking up on merom's

i might be 100% wrong , but i just want a MBP so much

CANT WAIT

 

[tabaczka]

i think we will see the Merom update on the 12th, apple cant hold out any longer because the competition is already ahead of them, and why wouldnt they update

1. the chip is out and ready to roll
2. the MBP is behind other laptops out there, and apple will have to update
3. the only reason it can possibly take this long is because there getting the old MPB's out and stocking up on merom's

i might be 100% wrong , but i just want a MBP so much

CANT WAIT

I am 98% sure that the Meroms won't come on the 12th. Its a special event for the iTunes Movie store. I think the actual list of movies that is going to be aviable is floating around somewhere.

If the Merom Macbook Pros are going to be released at an event (not just on a site update) it will be at the Paris Expo... Even then its iffy.

My advice to you would be to just order your MBP now. By the time you get it you will still be within the 14 days of the Expo.

Plus if you get the glossy screen it won't ship for 1-3 days...

 

[dunc85]

I am 98% sure that the Meroms won't come on the 12th. ....
If the Merom Macbook Pros are going to be released at an event (not just on a site update) it will be at the Paris Expo... Even then its iffy.

The Expo starts on the 12th, which is when any updates would most likely be, as opposed to the middle of the Expo. Your post doesn't make sense.

 

[HecubusPro]

The Expo starts on the 12th, which is when any updates would most likely be, as opposed to the middle of the Expo. Your post doesn't make sense.

It makes sense in the respect that no one knows when updates will happen. Some think all updates will take place on the 12th, with iMac and movie store taking center stage. Others think it will be all about iMac and the movie store with C2D updates coming later this month.

Apple has shown in the past that they don't conform to what consumers (and especially us rumormongerers) necessarily predict they will do. I think it makes almost as much sense to update during or after the expo, as it would at the beginning of the expo.

Who knows, maybe apple's going to announce they're getting out of the computer business, and focusing on phones, mp3 players, and selling movies.

 

[tabaczka]

The Expo starts on the 12th, which is when any updates would most likely be, as opposed to the middle of the Expo. Your post doesn't make sense.

I was thinking that Steve would be giving the iTunes Movie store presentation in San Francisco at 10 pm.

That doesn't leave Jobbs enough time to get to the Expo to release anything on the 12th. I don't think?

Unless he isn't going to be in San Francisco...?

No idea..

 

[Eriden]

Why Apple, Why!

I've been an avid PC user my entire life, but Apple really enticed me when they released their intel macs early in 2006. I held off buying my next laptop biding my time for Intel's 64-bit mobile platform, hoping to have next-gen OS capability, be it Vista with the native HD playback, or Leopard. As a law school student who needs to run Examsoft, my choices were limited to Windows-XP capable machines. Apple solved that problem by releasing Boot Camp beta and allowing Mac users to dual-boot into windows.

When my Sony laptop failed last week, my need for a new laptop shifted into overdrive. With classes already in progress, I desperately need a new system. I want to buy a MBP, but feel like I would be getting screwed if I bought now only to have Apple update with Merom and the x1800 on September 12th. Despite my desperate need for a new laptop, I'll steel myself another wearisome week in the hope that Apple will make a merom MBP announcement on the 12th. If Apple doesn't move their lineup to C2D by then, I'll be forced *very* grudgingly to give Dell or Alienware my money for a 64-bit system.

Anyone who wants to try their hand at convincing me that the current gen of Macbook Pros will run Leopard and future iterations of OSX well enough to merit a purchase, please email me at jahough<NOSPAM>ton@gmail.com. I don't want to buy another Windows machine unless I have no other choice.

Thanks,

Eriden

 

[aaronb]

I was thinking that Steve would be giving the iTunes Movie store presentation in San Francisco at 10 pm.

That doesn't leave Jobbs enough time to get to the Expo to release anything on the 12th. I don't think?

Unless he isn't going to be in San Francisco...?

No idea..

I don't know what you mean. There is no Keynote at the Expo in Paris, I don't think Steve is even going to be there. However, he will be giving a Keynote in San Francisco. This is my understanding.

And Eriden, try and hold out. It sucks because I've been waiting for quite a while for a Core 2 Duo MBP, but they're coming soon. I will be absolutely furious if they aren't out BY/ON Sept. 12.

But as far as these current machines go, they will most certainly run Leopard well. I can't imagine Apple making the next-gen OS ridiculously slow for the first of the Intel machines. I've heard they will work even for the previous G4s. Leopard will run 32-bit and 64-bit natively from what I understand.

 

[tabaczka]

I don't know what you mean. There is no Keynote at the Expo in Paris, I don't think Steve is even going to be there. However, he will be giving a Keynote in San Francisco. This is my understanding.

And Eriden, try and hold out. It sucks because I've been waiting for quite a while for a Core 2 Duo MBP, but they're coming soon. I will be absolutely furious if they aren't out BY/ON Sept. 12.

I don't know what i mean either. I just was defending my statement that the Merom won't be released on the 12th.. at least not in Paris.

Its very possible that it could come at the Keynote in San Francisco.


And yes. Eriden. You can wait. Or if you are a firm believer that the merom MBP's will come on the 12th you can buy now and exchange within 14 days. Providing you buy a stock MBP.

 

[macshark]

I've been an avid PC user my entire life, but Apple really enticed me when they released their intel macs early in 2006. I held off buying my next laptop biding my time for Intel's 64-bit mobile platform, hoping to have next-gen OS capability, be it Vista with the native HD playback, or Leopard. As a law school student who needs to run Examsoft, my choices were limited to Windows-XP capable machines. Apple solved that problem by releasing Boot Camp beta and allowing Mac users to dual-boot into windows.

When my Sony laptop failed last week, my need for a new laptop shifted into overdrive. With classes already in progress, I desperately need a new system. I want to buy a MBP, but feel like I would be getting screwed if I bought now only to have Apple update with Merom and the x1800 on September 12th. Despite my desperate need for a new laptop, I'll steel myself another wearisome week in the hope that Apple will make a merom MBP announcement on the 12th. If Apple doesn't move their lineup to C2D by then, I'll be forced *very* grudgingly to give Dell or Alienware my money for a 64-bit system.

Anyone who wants to try their hand at convincing me that the current gen of Macbook Pros will run Leopard and future iterations of OSX well enough to merit a purchase, please email me at jahough<NOSPAM>ton@gmail.com. I don't want to buy another Windows machine unless I have no other choice.

Thanks,

Eriden

Is there a specific reason why you need a 64-bit platform or more compute power than what the currrent MBP provides? According to tests of Merom based machines from other vendors, Merom brings little or no power savings and very small performance increase for normal applications. If you want to encode video, etc., a MBP is probably not the right platform anyway....

 

[macshark]

I could have bought a high-end laptop with a Memron processor from a half dozen venders for over a week now. Come on Apple...what's the hold up? If Apple is actually waiting around for some big Mac meeting in Paris to announce a simple hardware update (that their competitors have already made) so that they can make a big to-do about being last in the market with this update...well then honestly that's just stupid. OK I could understand being secretive about this upgrade and making a big deal about the announcement if they were going to be the first in the market with a memron laptop. But that ship has sailed and Apple wasn't even on the dock. Even if they release this update this month, the only thing they can brag about now is that, "Hey, a month later, we finally caught up with Dell!"

Wally

It is actually a good thing to hear that someone is complaining that Macs are a few weeks behind in terms of incorporating the latest and greatest processor technology. A few years back, Apple users were complaining that Macs were a year or two behind in terms of technology and performance!

 

[shecky]

my guess is that the 12th will be all about ipod/itunes/imac/iwhatever

i think we will see updated C2D MBP's as just a silent update on apple's site sometime this week with a similar enclosure to what they have now other than the addition of the user-swapable HD like the macbooks.

just a guess.

 

[poppe]

My guess is we won't see anything different from MBP except for an updated C2D. Everything else will stay until Santa Rosa. Then we might be lucky enough to see a x1800 or something.

Anyways, Ok so i'm confused wasn't apple and dell getting first dibs at C2D? What happened to that?

 

[macman2790]

i think we will see the Merom update on the 12th, apple cant hold out any longer because the competition is already ahead of them, and why wouldnt they update

1. the chip is out and ready to roll
2. the MBP is behind other laptops out there, and apple will have to update
3. the only reason it can possibly take this long is because there getting the old MPB's out and stocking up on merom's

i might be 100% wrong , but i just want a MBP so much

CANT WAIT

I agree here and see no reason why they shouldn't update the macbook pro.
I would like to see an 8x superdrive and a firewire 800 and some of the features from the macbook ie:magnetic latch, easy access to hard drive and hopefully not another underclocked gpu

I believe that's not asking for too much

 

[amack]

The uk apple store is down 12:30gmt. If anyone is interested, probably for the same reason the us store went down yesterday......or maybe not?!! Actually I don't think I've seen an update on a wednesday so I guess I'll go back to work

 

[mattsh]

The uk apple store is down 12:30gmt. If anyone is interested, probably for the same reason the us store went down yesterday......or maybe not?!! Actually I don't think I've seen an update on a wednesday so I guess I'll go back to work

Well the Apple store is now telling me:

Thank you for shopping at the Apple Online Store
Apple's Online and phone Order Status services are temporarily unavailable due to a scheduled upgrade to our systems.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

 

[zeppiecr]

Pricing Now Starts at Just $999; New 24-inch Model Added


CUPERTINO, Calif., Sept. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Apple(R) today
announced that its entire iMac(R) line now features the new Intel Core 2 Duo
processor in every model, delivering up to 50 percent faster performance than
the previous iMac.* A new 24-inch iMac with a brilliant 24-inch widescreen
display joins the 17- and 20-inch models, and iMac prices now start at just
$999. Every new iMac includes a built-in iSight(TM) video camera for video
conferencing out-of-the-box; Apple's breakthrough Front Row media experience;
and iLife(R) '06, the next generation of Apple's award-winning suite of
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widescreen model now features blazing Core 2 Duo performance," said Philip
Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "And
the new 24-inch widescreen iMac is the fastest, biggest and brightest iMac
we've ever made."

The new iMac lineup includes four models: a 1.83 GHz and a 2.0 GHz
17-inch, a 2.16 GHz 20-inch and the all-new 2.16 GHz 24-inch iMac, and
features the new Intel Core 2 Duo processor which delivers up to 50 percent
faster performance than the previous 20-inch iMac running industry standard
benchmarks.

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offers 30 percent more screen real estate than the 20-inch model and a
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all-new 24-inch iMac packs professional performance into the convenience of an
all-in-one design and includes a 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 4MB
of shared L2 cache, 1GB of 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM memory, a 250GB Serial ATA hard
drive, NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics with 128MB of GDDR3 memory and a
SuperDrive(TM) for burning professional-quality DVDs. Delivering greater
customization for performance and expansion needs, users can configure the new
24-inch iMac with a 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, up to 3GB of 667 MHz
DDR2 SDRAM memory, a 500GB Serial ATA hard drive and the NVIDIA GeForce 7600
GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory for outstanding graphics performance.

Every iMac includes a built-in iSight video camera for video conferencing
out-of-the-box using Apple's award-winning iChat AV, or recording a video
podcast or iMovie(R) using iLife '06, and the breakthrough media experience of
Front Row for a simple, intuitive and powerful way for consumers to enjoy
their content. Providing the latest in high-performance connectivity options,
the iMac includes built-in 10/100/1000 BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet for high-speed
networking, built-in AirPort Extreme(R), a total of five USB ports (three USB
2.0) and two FireWire(R) ports (including one FireWire 800 port on the 24-inch
model).

Every iMac also comes with iLife '06, the next generation of Apple's
award-winning suite of digital lifestyle applications featuring iPhoto(R),
iMovie HD, iDVD(R), GarageBand(TM) and iWeb(TM), the latest iLife application
that makes it super-easy to create amazing websites with photos, blogs and
podcasts and publish them on .Mac for viewing by anyone on the Internet with
just a single click. Every iMac also comes with the latest release of the
world's most advanced operating system, Mac(R) OS X version 10.4.7 "Tiger"
including Safari(TM), Mail, iCal(R), iChat AV, Front Row and Photo Booth,
running natively on the Intel-based desktop.


Pricing & Availability

The new iMac line is shipping today and will be available through the
Apple Store(R) (www.apple.com ), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized
Resellers. Apple today also increased processor speeds on both models of the
Mac mini, delivering dual-core performance across the line at no additional
cost. The $799 model now includes a 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo processor, up from
1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo processor, and the $599 model now includes a 1.66 GHz
Intel Core Duo processor, up from a 1.5 GHz Intel Core Solo processor.


The new 24-inch 2.16 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,999
(US), includes:

-24-inch widescreen LCD display;
-2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor;
-1GB of 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable to 3GB;
-8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW);
-PCI Express-based NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT with 128MB GDDR3 memory;
-built-in iSight video camera;
-built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR;
-250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
-mini-DVI out (adapters for DVI, VGA and Composite/S-Video sold
separately);
-built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
-the infrared Apple Remote, Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard.


The new 20-inch 2.16 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,499
(US), includes:

-20-inch widescreen LCD display;
-2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor;
-1GB of 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable to 3GB;
-8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW);
-PCI Express-based ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory;
-built-in iSight video camera;
-built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR;
-250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
-mini-DVI out (adapters for DVI, VGA and Composite/S-Video sold
separately);
-built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
-the infrared Apple Remote, Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard.


The new 17-inch 2.0 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,199 (US),
includes:

-17-inch widescreen LCD display;
-2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor;
-1GB of 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable to 3GB;
-8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW);
-PCI Express-based ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory;
-built-in iSight video camera;
-built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR;
-160GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
-mini-DVI out (adapters for DVI, VGA and Composite/S-Video sold
separately);
-built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
-the infrared Apple Remote, Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard.


The 17-inch 1.83 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $999 (US),
includes:

-17-inch widescreen LCD display;
-1.83 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor;
-512MB of 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable to 2GB;
-24x Combo drive;
-Intel GMA 950 graphics;
-built-in iSight video camera;
-built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking;
-160GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
-mini-DVI out (adapters for DVI, VGA and Composite/S-Video sold
separately);
-built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
-Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard.


Build-to-order options and accessories include: a 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2
Duo processor, up to 3GB DDR2 SDRAM, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with 256MB GDDR3
video memory and a 500GB Serial ATA hard drive on the 24-inch iMac; a 2.33 GHz
Intel Core 2 Duo processor, up to 3GB DDR2 SDRAM, 256MB GGDR3 video memory and
a 500GB Serial ATA hard drive on the 20-inch iMac; a 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
processor, up to 3GB DDR2 SRDAM and a 500GB Serial ATA hard drive on the 2.0
GHz 17-inch iMac; and up to 2GB of DDR2 SDRAM, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and Apple
Remote on the 1.83 GHz 17-inch iMac. Additional build-to-order options also
include: pre-installed copies of iWork(TM) 06, Logic(R) Express, Final Cut(R)
Express and Aperture(TM); AirPort Express(TM) and AirPort Extreme Base
Station; Apple Wireless Keyboard and wireless Mighty Mouse; Apple USB Modem;
and the AppleCare Protection Plan.


*Based on estimated results of industry-standard SPECint and SPECfp rate
tests. SPEC is a registered trademark of Standard Performance Evaluation
Corporation (SPEC); see http://www.apple.com/iMac for more information.


Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple
II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh.
Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its
award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating system, and iLife
and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital music
revolution with its iPod portable music players and iTunes online music store.


NOTE: Apple, the Apple logo, Mac, Mac OS, Macintosh, iMac, iSight, iLife,
SuperDrive, iMovie, Airport Extreme, FireWire, iPhoto, iDVD, GarageBand, iWeb,
Safari, iCal, Apple Store, iWork, Logic, Final Cut, Aperture and AirPort
Express are trademarks of Apple. Other company and product names may be
trademarks of their respective owners.


SOURCE Apple Computer, Inc.

 

[shecky]

holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.apple.com/imac/

 

[MatthewConnelly]

24" iMac in the UK store.

 

[freebooter]

I just got home from work.

24"@2.16@2k?

sweet--i think i'm ready

 

[iñaki'sonMac'87]

Merom MBP NOW!!!!!

where the hell is the updated MBP!!!!! I can't wait any longer for change my old (and lovely and LOYAL) G3MacBook !!!!

 

[Rocketman]

Okay, I'll post.

Mac Book

Apple either is getting a new chip discount amounting to the equivelant of their entire past profit, or they had a supply agreement "leveling" the cost of Core 1 Duo chips such that they either must continue putting them in MacBooks for a few more months or more, or they must shift use of those chips to increased sales of Mac Minis.

I say a Core 2 Duo upgrade is NOT in the immediate horizon. Too bad too.

On the positive side this clearly differentiates MacBook from Mac Book Pro very soon.

Mac Book Pro "Merom" (Powerbook G6)

MacBook Pro (ala Powerbook) was neglected for so long that the very moment it can get Merom, it will. I say that announcement is GOING to happen in September. Besides it is a straight chip upgrade with no major motherboard mods. It will probably get an error correction Rev. in any case.

Mac-Mini

This is a wildcard. I believe the rumours that they will go to all dual core. The chip price has dropped to the point where single core is silly. Apple has a history of manufacturing crippleware. Are those days over?

I was correct.

I was correct.


As for both the Mac-Mini and the MacBook, the ability of Apple to declare the entire product line BOTH dual core and 64 bit compliant (Core 2 Duo "Merom") is compelling indeed. I say it will happen at WWDC 07.

X-serve and Mac Pro are stable.

iMac

Steve seems to have an afinity for the iMac (interim Mac) perhaps the iCEO will continue with that afinity and upgrade it to Merom just because he can at the same price point or so.

I was correct.

The alternative would be to keep it as is, maybe with insignificant speed bumps and SIGNIFICANTLY increase profit margins in light of decreased chip marginal cost on Core 1 Duo. That's what I would do. Demand is relatively inelastic. Perhaps an "upper end 23 inch + Merom" iMac. It will still be interim.

X-serve Mini and Mac-Midi.

There has been speculation of a Mac-Mini on steroids or with expandability. Good idea but not likely. Apple tends to be an "all-in one product company" good or bad.

The XSM has real market potential especially if they are themselves stackable ala the Mini. They would be headless. They could be marketed to SCHOOLS, executives, programmers, and IT geeks. It would be a great near zero development cost addition to the "pro" line. Also because it would be the "NeXT" of the Apple product line, given a luggable and expandable form factor WITH the SERVER version of the software, it would qualify for one more Steve Job-ism. Insanely Great!! And claims of reality distortion field would be nullified by actual performance and capabilities of the hardware and software. "Touche".

iPod video.

It's time for a screen centric ultra portable processor/storage device. an iPod and a remote control, an internet wireless device (hook your MacBook to it via cheater plug gigabit ethernet), hence a phone of sorts too. All functions in software/firmware and thus this one size fits all device can also be used for POS, Barcodes, Data collection and display in medical and scientific fields, etc. Emphasis on etc.

Make it so.

Many of my comments on chip adoption patterns are based on the fact that Core 1 and 2 Duo will be with us for 2-3 years minumum. Why not stretch the product line and leave one last vestage of Apple crippleware in place, by not upgrading QUITE as fast as possible from Core 1 to 2 in low-end products?

Rocketman

Apparantly we have short wait until my entire list comes true.

Rocketman

 

[tabaczka]

Oh lord of all apple predictions, Rocketman Do you expect C2D Macbook Pros on or before the 12th?