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Mac Users Reporting Widespread System Freezes With OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 Update

Only happens on 1 MacBookPro model people lose their minds.
I have 5 macs and had zero issues with El Capitan.
Virtually no issues in my house since Snow Leopard. Still running 2009 iMac among others.
Someone said "windows 10 only crashed 1 time" well my Macs haven't crashed due to software ever on any OSX version.
 
It's been happening on my MacBook Air 11" 2015 as well. About once a week seems accurate. I downgraded to 10.11.3 for now, but it's not an optimal solution. Good to see some publicity for this issue.
 
I've been having the same issue about twice a month since upgrading to 10.11.4. 13" rMBP early 2015. Sadly OS X has fallen behind Windows in stability.
 
When I was beta testing 10.11.4 I submitted multiple bug reports on this issue as I saw no fixes between each beta version. Guess the engineering team didn't really care much to read those...
 
iLG said:
Only happens on 1 MacBookPro model people lose their minds.
I have 5 macs and had zero issues with El Capitan.
Virtually no issues in my house since Snow Leopard. Still running 2009 iMac among others.
Someone said "windows 10 only crashed 1 time" well my Macs haven't crashed due to software ever on any OSX version.
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You have had zero issues since snow leopard? I find that to be impossible, and also impossible that you have never experienced a crash on OS X . Statistical that is incredible, given Apple engineers have fixed thousands of bugs since snow L...

Just to clarify, what do you call a spinning beachball? Never had you had to force restart a Mac ?

I have a 2009 iMac, and since snow leapord I've had numerous crashes , to be expected for an OS , and numerous beachballs. It's also been replaced under warranty.

I have never owned any electronic device that has not crashed, forcing a restart....
 
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Apple, WTF?! This bug is killing us.
And it is not limited to only one model.
 
Northgrove said:
Huh, Windows isn't what it used to be. I haven't had a system wide freeze on Windows 10, ever. I've had a single crash while gaming and that's it.
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Impressive! My Windows 10 computer is crashing right now...
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BruceEBonus said:
It Just Work ....ed!
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This slogan was stupid back then. My macs crashed soon after SJ said those words.
 
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iLG said:
Only happens on 1 MacBookPro model people lose their minds.
I have 5 macs and had zero issues with El Capitan.
Virtually no issues in my house since Snow Leopard. Still running 2009 iMac among others.
Someone said "windows 10 only crashed 1 time" well my Macs haven't crashed due to software ever on any OSX version.
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If that person has that particular model...and none others....they shouldn't be worried? But then again I guess they could take it to Apple Store.
 
And people wonder why I continue to use an old operating system...

MacOS X fell off a cliff in 2011 (Lion) and has been scrambling to get back up ever since. I don't think it will ever get back to where it once was in terms of speed and reliability. There are just too many features, too many background events and too many cloud interactions now. Apple has recognized that and now uses public betas to help identify issues before shipping a finished product, but there must be significant pressure to release even when there are lots of known defects.

My gut tells me 10.12 (or whatever it's called) will pack more new features into the OS and will therefore come with its share of headaches for early adopters. If there's a stability release coming it won't be before they finish rebranding to avoid the number 13.
 
I have been having this issue on my late 2015 MacBook Air. I am glad this article came out before I spent three hours at the genius bar...
 
I get that it's hard-to-impossible to avoid bugs when you have millions of users downloading a system-wide update, each with slightly different settings. At the same time, it's becoming kind of a disappointing trend for new Apple software and hardware to brick their devices in some way until a patch is released.

My MO for the past few years has been to wait a few weeks or months before getting the latest upgraded iPhone/laptop or downloading the latest major update, just so that there's time for these more or less inevitable issues to be ironed out. It kinda makes you wonder why there's a beta stage of development at all if major bugs aren't caught in that stage.
 
Thought only I had similar issue. Anybody having trouble waking up external display after it went to sleep when connected to MacBook Pro early 2015?
 
I was having similar issues on my 2012 MacBook Pro, 15 inch since upgrading to 10.9. Then on one day it suddenly dawned on me that the cause is the two-finger double tapping videos (to magnify) in safari.

I stopped magnifying videos in Safari and the hard freezing never occurred. Truth be told, life on Mac was like hell before I diagnosed the problem: "Random" hard freezing every two or three days

Apple, Just stop this yearly update crap.
 
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I always thought software updates were made to get you to upgrade i.e. new rMBP soon.
But it was not meant to be so obvious as this!
 
edmundostudios said:
Ironically Windows 10 works fine on my MBP while OSX EC 10.11.04 crashes when using Safari, Apples own software..

Apple representatives have also had the same issues I have been encountering and I have evidence of it.

Currently if you are having these issues want a stable system try using chrome or change OS to W7/10 or Yosemite.
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Better to downgrade to 10.11.3 than yosemite.

You can do it via restore from backup or clean install.

Clean install will require the full installer for 10.11.3 which is no longer available to download from apple. But you can still find it elsewhere by googling.

Apparently posting the link to the full installer on this forum breaches macrumors rules though.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Owned Macs since 1988. They are computers. Glitches happen. Maybe some of you were not around during the good old days of extension conflicts. Great way to piss away an hour of your life -- but thank the lord for that awesome app Conflict Catcher.

OS X 10.0 and 10.1 were completely unusable -- as public releases.

Then there was the OS X update that erased people's FW hard drives. That one was a hoot.

I've given Apple a lot of crap lately about them become rather boring and undisciplined. No fan of TCCo. these days for sure. This isn't one of those times though. Honestly, this crap is going to happen, Win, Mac, Linux, whatever. These are massive backends engineered by rooms of people. People. Get over it.

This is why you always keep a good bootable back up. Otherwise just click your heels three times and wish you were back in 1901 sipping a Pepsi at the drug store counter watching the parasol girls giggling.
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Amen.

Every OS X release has had an issue with freezing one way or another. And every time there are threads of people calling out how things were so much better back in the good old days when presumably nothing ever went wrong with computers and engineers were more careful with their coding.
 
yeah I was wondering what's up. I have hardly ever had to do a hard reset of our iMac until fairly recently, so it makes sense that t's a 10.11.4 specific issue.
 
niun said:
REAAAAALY?

1 crash since windows 10.
1 crash at least every other week with El Cap.

So tired of this....
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People need to stop repeating outdated info over and over again. Yes when Windows 98 was current, Windows crashes were super common. 2000 and XP crashed a lot less already, Vista was a step back, 7 was a leap forward, the first release of 8 was a step back, all others since were steps forward and 10 has been a very good release.

On the other hand in Mac OS world quality has been going down significantly since the need for Snow Leopard (which was very good itself, but the need for it to exist gave a clear message). It took another dive when they went with the "free OS" route.

Apple is very good at coming up with UI design, but they are getting worse and worse at stability across the board (in all their software).
 
niun said:
Hmmmmm.. Care to expand on that?
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Nooooo, I don't feel like a big rant today. So only an abstract. The Mac is making more profit than all Windows OEMs combined and that on a tiny 7% market share*. The reason Macs can be sold at a much higher average selling price (ASP), is that they are perceived as much better than Windows PCs by their customers. They have a unique selling proposition (USP) and that is embedded in OS X. Therefore the statement "OSX is no better or worse than any other operating system." is utter rubbish.

*) http://www.asymco.com/2013/04/16/escaping-pcs/
 
I've had the same freezing issue with my Macbook Air 11" early 2015, and two late 2015 21,5" iMacs used by my co-workers.
At first we thought it was Excel or Word eating out RAM or something to that extent, but we have narrow it down to clicking on random actions within Safari... at times it could be the back button, or closing a tab by clicking on its "x" mark, clicking on a bookmark... Now, my 2008 iMac at home has not had the issue. All four machines are on 10.11.4.
 
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