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Mac OS X is just Microsoft 10 years ago, and they will need to go through paths Microsoft has gone.
Windows 10 is already more stable than Mac OS X 10.11.4.
Apple, come on and go to release hotfix like what Microsoft does always.

Yeah, El Cap is totally XP. :rolleyes:

Many numerous bugs in El Cap, and I have had frozen system several times. But no, El Cap isn’t Microsoft 10 years ago.
 
its a function (and always has been at apple) of apple priding itself on being the intersection of Arts and Technology, as it likes to have described itself.

i think of Project Titan when it is finished as a project and becomes a Core business and the apple self-driven car becomes a reality, with mission critical systems running on apple OS.

we will be often veering onto Arts Boulevard i think.
Driving down the high way at 70MPH in a self driving car and CarOS freezes up and your coming up to a roundabout and you got no way to stop the car...
I think I will pass the Apple Car.
 
I am going to be honest. Tim Cook needs to man up and start cutting the fat. If there is one thing Apple was known for it was solid software and now its just gotten to the point of absurdity how many things they release with bugs that should have been discovered and fixed during the beta period

TC cares more about the profits than the user experience. His years as CEO and what has happened speaks for itself.
 
I have a mid-2012 MBP (I want a new Mac badly now, but don't see anything in the current Mac lineup worth upgrading to). Over the last few years I can't count how many serious glitches and total freezes I've experienced. On the contrary, my gaming Windows PC has been rock solid. I can remember only a few times a restart was necessary in its entire lifetime. Upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 was also smooth. Both of my machines work with 100% legal software, always updated, nothing unnecessary installed.

Granted, I spend most of my "computer-time" with my Mac (working), so of course more problems can arise, but for me the myth of how bad Windows is and how perfect the Mac is - seems laughable.
 
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Nae luck then, I have 4 Macs which I use daily and I haven't had a single crash/lockup so it just works for me.

The reality is that in the past Windows was a lottery, things have changed , they are probably on par, I'd even say windows 10 is more stable for me, though I use mac more, so that skewers the results
 
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I have a 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro running 10.11.4.

I was experiencing some freezes for about 30s in duration, but it seemed to be losing access to the network. It would always return to normal after the freeze, and didn't require a reboot. It wasn't system wide though, but anything of a remote network nature would be offline.

I turned off the wifi and used a 10baseT ethernet thunderbolt adapter. No freezes since. It's been over a week since I turned off wifi.
 
Apple's losing it. Maybe stop building campuses, working on cars, fiddling with the stupid watch, and just concentrate on the one thing that built Apple from the ground up: Stable Mac Hardware and Software.
They do seem to be losing focus. It's a shame they can't expand their business and keep up the excellence of their existing business.

I have a 2011 or 2012 MBPro. I don't use it often anymore. When I do, it's running Windows. I bought it for the quality of the hardware but I needed it to run Windows.
 
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I have mid-2012 MBP (I want a new Mac badly now, but don't see anything in the current Mac lineup worth upgrading to). Over the last few years I can't count how many glitches and total freezes I've experienced. On the contrary, my gaming Windows PC has been rock solid. I can remember only a few times a restart was necessary in its entire lifetime. Upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 was also smooth. Both of my machines work with 100% legal software, always updated, nothing unnecessary installed.

Granted, I spend most of my "computer-time" with my Mac (working), so of course more problems can arise, but for me the myth of how bad Windows is and how perfect the Mac is - seems laughable.

In in the exact same boat. Mid 2012 rMBP with no machine that I can see as a replacement. My Mac Pro can't even keep a connection to its Bluetooth mouse so I have gone wired .

I've had one major crash from my PC that I remember , Windows went into restore mode and fixed itself , unlike the old days where I had to rebuild the machine from scratch.
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Oh look, another failure of an update from Apple.

Between wifi connectivity issues, losing cellular signal, crashes, freezing, etc.

Just another nail to build Tim Cook's coffin.

I can handle many things , bugs happen, but when you cannot offer a stable WIFi experience while pushing all you products towards mobile / wireless , that is a major failure. Maybe my 2012 rMBP was just a lemon.....Apple fixed the wireless issues eventually though .
 
Sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean there are less problems with Windows overall. ;)
That's exactly the case right now, there are less problems with Windows overall.
The problem is with the manufacturers neglecting to properly update the drivers of the components, but the Windows software alone + the generic drivers is stable enough (but without all the features of the official driver). Of course faulty drivers cause lock ups and BSOD, and you have to do a clean install (not update from previous versions) for it to work perfectly, not different at all from all those users that have to clean install OS X to get rid of issues.

But hey, i have a site here that can help you: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
That's a coin that can used both ways, mostly against anyone who is on the opposite side of the argument that you are standing in.
 
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I've had similar happen on my 2011 MBP. Keyboard going completely dead, but trackpad still kinda responding in spits and spurts, before the entire machine crashes and needs a reboot. Lots of beachballing in between when using safari (which is supposedly another non-related issue). Makes me yern for the good old days of mavericks, wish I had never 'upgraded'.
Mine wasn't like that at all. My MacBook Pro (Early 2015) operated as quickly as always but suddenly froze. Everything down to the cursor instantly. I had to restart to fix it.
 
I'm not saying my Windows PC doesn't crash from time to time - it does! But WAY less than my MBP and the OS is a lot faster and less sluggish..on worse hardware - We are living in a crazy world!
Agree. Windows is now becoming more solid than ever, thanks to the actual requirement that Windows needs to be installed on countless combinations of hardware.
Currently if you are having these issues want a stable system try using chrome or change OS to W7/10
Yes, but not Yosemite. Uh, if Yosemite is fine then that is fine.
That's a new innovative feature of OS X derived from Apple Watch. Every hour your Mac freezes so you can stand and take a break while it's rebooting.
Syncing your Mac with Apple Watch will fix it. Syncing will be available in OS X 13 El Beijing.
lol. XD :D
The irony is my MBP on ElCap (ridiculously unstable) is out crashing my main hackintosh thats also on ElCap (which is very stable). Meanwhile linux on an ancient laptop is the most reliable thing in the house.
So, Mac OS X problem? Or hardware problem? Hackintosh is not the main stream but this is...
Laughable.
Yeah, El Cap is totally XP. :rolleyes:

Many numerous bugs in El Cap, and I have had frozen system several times. But no, El Cap isn’t Microsoft 10 years ago.
Uh, sorry, I just think about 10 years at that time and didn't realise it was Windows XP 10 years ago.
Maybe, El Capitan is the Vista SP2?
 
Agree. Windows is now becoming more solid than ever, thanks to the actual requirement that Windows needs to be installed on countless combinations of hardware.

Yes, but not Yosemite. Uh, if Yosemite is fine then that is fine.

lol. XD :D

So, Mac OS X problem? Or hardware problem? Hackintosh is not the main stream but this is...
Laughable.

Uh, sorry, I just think about 10 years at that time and didn't realise it was Windows XP 10 years ago.
Maybe, El Capitan is the Vista SP2?

No, not Vista either.

There are many irritating bugs in El Cap, though. Quality control is seemingly understaffed.
 
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I have actually been having the same issue on my 13" MacBook pro. It's good to know that the issue is more than likely software related instead of a hardware issue but it's still very frustrating non the less. Having to do a hard reboot can lead to hardware issues. Hopefully Apple released a fix for this very soon.
 
Hello.

This is a bug. To resolve this bug simply reinstall your graphics drivers on OSX.
For example if you are using Nvidia Web-drivers.
HOW TO FIX
Follow this steps:

.01 click the nvidia icon in the right top corner on your desktop and choose OSX Default Graphics drivers Drivers
.02 Reboot
.03 Click the Nvidia icon on your desktop and choose Nvidia Web Driver
.04 Reboot.
(Fixed)

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I'll have to give this a try tonight.
 
"There are many irritating bugs in El Cap, though. Quality control is seemingly understaffed.[/QUOTE]

Yes El Cap has been a bit buggy on my late 2011 15" Macbook Pro. Glad I have had no freezes, maybe due to me having hardware graphics card permanently selected as active. 10.1.5 Beta is better.

My old Mac Pro 1,1 gets used 10 hours a day running 10.6.8 and can't remember the last time it crashed. Wish El Cap could reach the reliability standard set by Snow Leopard. Dreaming..............

The annual OSX new system roll out is downgrading system reliability. Would rather they came out with a new system every 2 years and have it fully debugged.
 
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I've got a mid-2012 MacBook Pro (bought December 2014) with the same problem on 10.11.4. On my system its the WindowServer process which appears to freeze the screen--the underlying Darwin OS is still running fine and is accessible over the network via SSH. My machine locks about once every two or so weeks--at that time I SSH in and do a "sudo shutdown -r now" in a tty, and then come back in a few minutes. It shouldn't happen, but when it does WindowServer is the culprit over here.
 
Jesus, mine just froze up out of no where last night for the first time ever. I thought it was just me. This is disappointing!! On the bright side the reboot process takes less than 10 seconds on my early 2015 MBP-R
 
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