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MacBook Air and 'MacBook' With M2 Chips Slated for Launch Later This Year
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Not going to happen. That would mean using the same CPU in the Air for at least 3 years since they wont update the design this fall and then rev the CPU like 3 months later.
PS: ASsuming we're talking a Fall release. Could they drop an Air on us in June with M1 and the new design? I guess so. But then they'd have to do a spring 2023 update to a new CPU or else they still end up delivering the same M1 for 3 year running (if they did the next, M2 update in fall 23). That undercuts one of the big reasons to move from Intel, the ability to deliver quicker performance updates.
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All I want is MagSafe returned to the MBA. M1, M2... Don't care. Fast enough. Just want it "trip safe".
I also believe Kuo is incorrect this time. It doesn't make sense to redesign a computer and ship it with an old version of silicon mac. I don't believe Apple would design a specific chip just to the MBA as well.
Apple won't update all of the lineup this fall. I bet M1 Max and M1 Pro will only see updates next year.
If Apple releases a green MacBook Air with a white keyboard and bezels I'll literally be the first in line to buy one. I might be in the minority here but I always loved the white iBook/MacBook era because it's such a friendly and calming looking thing to use. It's literally perfect for a consumer product IMO.
Well, they've done it before on Intel. IMO they did this intentionally to keep it inexpensive and to keep it at a disadvantage compared to other machines.
In fact, back in 2020 when Apple released the Air and Pro at the same time with the same M1, I was surprised, esp. given the price difference.
Mac Pro will not have two M1 Ultras, according to the guy who is porting Linux to Apple Silicon. The technology and OS do not and cannot support this configuration, unless they vastly revamp everything, which would not be expected. Instead, there is a different chip category coming for the Mac Pro.
Personally I think, both the Air and 13” MBP will both be retired and replaced with two new MacBook models in two sizes; a smaller passively cooled MacBook to replace the Air, and a larger model with a fan to replace the Pro.
Precisely. And that was one of the reasons for moving FROM Intel... the inability to update on a timely manner. What's their explanation going to be when they're using their own chips?
As I've said in other threads, the low end Pro makes no sense and just dliutes the "Pro" branding. What they should do, I think, is make a clear delination between the consumer and pro lines. The 14 and 16" Pros are high end, powerful machines. Replace the Air with a new version in the new design language and either make "Air" the consumer brand or drop that term so they have Macbooks and Macbook Pros. Having a low end Pro makes no damn sense.
It DID kind of make sense in 2016 when the Air that was then current was not a retina screen. I know, it's why I bought the entry level Pro. I wanted a new macbook but also wanted a retina screen and thus had to get the low end Pro. That's not the case now.
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No, I'm specifically talking about the situation where they already had chips available for upgrades but they chose not to.
The explanation was product line segmentation. It kept the Air cheap, and provided incentive for people to get MacBook Pros.
If the M2 chip is say 25%-30% faster than M1 - to find out the benchmarks, can one just scale it across the other top of the line chips like we have seen from M1 - Pro - Max ~ (Ultra) and figure how the performance increase? Just curious.
Does not compute. You obviously don’t need the most powerful machine available, and you also must not be desperate if you haven’t purchased anything and have decided to wait any longer.
My daughter’s 2012 MacBook Pro failed last week so I just ordered the best MacBook Air. Worst case scenario: return it with 14 days, otherwise it is going to be a while before a new model. If there had been a new model this week with a price hike, we wouldn’t have been interested. It’s already twice as powerful as her brother’s 2018 MacBook Pro.
I don't recall that ( i do recall issues around chip availability) and in any case, you're inferring motivations from the outside.
And that’s the reason why I purchased the current model, well and the fact that the white bezels with a notch is not appealing in the least. I’ll admit the camera sucks, but that is easily fixed with an external webcam.
In early 2015 Apple released the MacBook Air with Broadwell-U. In 2017, they updated the MacBook Air... with Broadwell-U. The Broadwell-U MacBook Air was for sale for 4 frickin' years, despite the fact that several other chips appropriate for MBA upgrades had been released in the interim. In fact, some of the appropriate chips available were released as far back as late 2015. ie. Skylake-U. Then Intel released Kaby Lake-U in early 2017 but Apple still chose not to use them.
Anyhow I'm not convinced that Apple would release an updated M1 MacBook Air instead of putting the M2 in it, but I think it is definitely a significant possibility. I personally wouldn't write off Kuo just yet, especially since it would make perfect sense from a market segmentation point of view.
Even if the new MBA comes with the same M chip, many people will still buy it, especially if the rumors of redesign are true. The MBA is a very powerful and capable Mac and your average consumer isn't obsessed with having the latest chip every release.
Yes, more than likely the M2 will scale the same as the M1 as they all use the same cores. Although there is always a chance that Apple could tweak clock speeds in different variants.
If the M2 isn't out until Fall, hoping they skipped A15 cores and use A16 cores. Would be a bigger jump in performance from the M1.
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all macs will have a 2 year refresh going forward with their silicon…
So M2 MBA, Mac mini & iPad Pro will come late 22, M2 iMac probably Spring 23, M2 Pro and Max MBP late 23, M2 Ultra Mac studio and M2 iPad Air Spring 24 and the cycle starts again for M3….
So M2 MBA, Mac mini & iPad Pro will come late 22, M2 iMac probably Spring 23, M2 Pro and Max MBP late 23, M2 Ultra Mac studio and M2 iPad Air Spring 24 and the cycle starts again for M3….
It is quite possible with this next update that the existing $999 MacBook Air will remain as is, and drop the Air and become that entry level MacBook.
The new Air with its new design and M2 chip with be the new mid tier product, starting at $1199 or more.
That doesn't make any sense. More likely the existing 13" MacBook Air drops the Air and remains in the lineup with an M1 at $999 as "MacBook".
The new MacBook Air with M2 and all new design will come in at $1199 and up.
I think the current Air will stay AS-IS (no M2) but the current $1199 model will drop to $999 and the current $999 will be discontinued. I agree the new redesign M2 will land at $1299 to replace the low end MBP.
I don’t think they want “low end” associated with Pro anymore. Pro is pro.
You’re on to something using the iPad lineup as an indicator - the Air is the mid model of the iPad lineup.
Current MacBook Air = new MacBook at $999
Redesign with M2 = MacBook Air at $1299 (if not $1499)