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the problem is Mac Studio not going to get the sales numbers... wait and watch

So which is it? People wanted it for 15 years or people didn’t?

Or is your complaint that Apple refused to make a system for 15 years that nobody wants to buy?

Again, convoluted logic.
 
I doubt this. If anything I think Mac Pro/Pro XDR didn't get the sales numbers. Once they release the Studio Display Pro, it'll be Apple's actual attempt to sell new desktops en masse to professionals

you have to see what is the best selling Mac and what is the average price of the most number of units moved by either PC or Mac

Most likely it is not $1999 (and that too with out the display)

Mac Studio literally starts at somewhere $3500 if you go apple route all the way.

It is meant for high end gigs, not for 90% of the population.
 
So which is it? People wanted it for 15 years or people didn’t?

Or is your complaint that Apple refused to make a system for 15 years that nobody wants to buy?

Again, convoluted logic.

no you are not getting it, apple will not make every possible combination of specs to please every one, they know the sales numbers...

it is nothing against apple... lolz. it was a reply to guy/gal who was asking 15" MBA.

Convoluted logic is removing SDXC card, HDMI port and then putting it back...
 
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you have to see what is the best selling Mac and what is the average price of the most number of units moved by either PC or Mac

Most likely it is not $1999 (and that too with out the display)

Mac Studio literally starts at somewhere $3500 if you go apple route all the way.

It is meant for high end gigs, not for 90% of the population.
Obviously it's not for 90% of the population, but I think that professional offices that have been running trashcans and the like for a decade are going to jump on this, if they haven't already bought minis (and some will probably still upgrade from the mini). What I'm saying is there is a niche at this price point for people who want a high-performing Mac desktop. I am sure there are many businesses that could not justify a $6000 base Mac Pro that are happy to buy these things, and I am sure there will be many graphics oriented studios that couldn't justify the Pro XDR but will buy the Studio Display Pro (I know I will). This is why they released the Mac Pro and Pro XDR at such a high price; not to sell them in volume, but to provide proof of concept, generate interest, and finally to release the Studio and Studio Display Pro as a more accessible entry into the high-performance lineup.

How many people lusted over the Pro Display XDR? It's no accident that they released it as the first new display option in many years. Soon people will finally be able to get something comparable at half price! They created the need, now they are filling it.
 
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affordable, useable and reasonably priced 15" Mac Laptop - innovation of the century lolz. cannot innovate my a**, lolz...

I like what John/Johny is doing for last 18 month or so (coinciding with Sir Johny Ive's departure).

15.4" MBA still possible if only apple see it that way - $1499 15" MBA, they can even re-use the 15.4" MBP panel and discontinue the $1499 13" MBP...

Asking $1999 - for 15" Mac Laptop way too much for majority of the population.

it is like the conversation I had with one of the old guy, we used to wear suit/coat/tie to take the aero plane in those days... he is unable to take that everyone flys these days... lolz...

one can only hope apple sees normal people use 15" laptop (not just the Pros) and most of the US/Europe population is getting older each day. I have seen people use larger smartphones simply because of their eye sight.
 
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Obviously it's not for 90% of the population, but I think that professional offices that have been running trashcans and the like for a decade are going to jump on this
Hmm... I'd be surprised if this is even 2% of the overall Mac market.
 
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Hmm... I'd be surprised if this is even 1% of the overall Mac market.
Perhaps, but I'm in pro audio and it's pretty common here. I imagine the same goes for a lot of video studios, basically the creative professionals that Mac showcased in their ads.
 
again stop quote the Kuo twitter, is not him, based on his language and all of those mistakes
 
no you are not getting it, apple will not make every possible combination of specs to please every one, they know the sales numbers...

it is nothing against apple... lolz. it was a reply to guy/gal who was asking 15" MBA.

Convoluted logic is removing SDXC card, HDMI port and then putting it back...
Agree with you on the last part 100% but thats happens when Jony was the CEO for design... Jony Ive fights with his customers because of the form over 0 function and then...
Since Ive was let out (lets get real) Apple is back in business of true, useful devices
 
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Perhaps, but I'm in pro audio and it's pretty common here. I imagine the same goes for a lot of video studios, basically the creative professionals that Mac showcased in their ads.
I had edited it to say 2% actually. It may be higher if it’s revenue since they’re expensive machines. But my main point here though is it makes sense to have something in between the M1 (or M2) Mac mini and M1 Max Mac Studio. There is just too much of a gap there.

A high end Mac mini with M1 Pro with 32 GB option at typical high end Mac mini pricing would vastly outsell the Mac Studio, and would likely expand penetration into that creative professional market too.
 
I had edited it to say 2% actually. It may be higher if it’s revenue since they’re expensive machines. But my main point here though is it makes sense to have something in between the M1 (or M2) Mac mini and M1 Max Mac Studio. There is just too much of a gap there.

A high end Mac mini with M1 Pro with 32 GB option at typical high end Mac mini pricing would vastly outsell the Mac Studio, and would likely expand penetration into that creative professional market too.
You dont count the M1 24" imac and the 13" mbp to be the mac between M1 mac mini and the studio price point?based on Apples trajectory you are right...i mean every catherogy has a lot of starting price point...ipads iphones now even apple watch and airpods
i would not be surprised if the mac is the next category to get an macbook SE or something

EDIT: i also suspect Apple to make into the same enclosure with the M1/M2 mac mini also an M1/M2 pro option
 
I had edited it to say 2% actually. It may be higher if it’s revenue since they’re expensive machines. But my main point here though is it makes sense to have something in between the M1 (or M2) Mac mini and M1 Max Mac Studio. There is just too much of a gap there.

A high end Mac mini with M1 Pro with 32 GB option at typical high end Mac mini pricing would vastly outsell the Mac Studio, and would likely expand penetration into that creative professional market too.
I agree, I think that the Mac mini with M2 Pro is coming. In this case I think it's smarter for them to release the more expensive version first, to get the people who are willing to shell out for it but would otherwise be satisfied with a cheaper option.
 
The M1 MacBook Pro will be tweaked and branded as a MacBook at $999.

The Macbook Air will be redesigned with an M2 and priced at $1299.
 
The M1 MacBook Air is already such a perfect device. It’s literally the laptop I’ve dreamt of for years. Slightly worried about the rumours of the non-wedge design and white bezels.

Would be great to see MagSafe, smaller bezels and M2 though.

Super impressed by the 14” MBP display, but I expect Promotion to remain a Pro feature.
 
The M1 MacBook Pro will be tweaked and branded as a MacBook at $999.

The Macbook Air will be redesigned with an M2 and priced at $1299.

generally apple does not re-badge the old system to new system. i think there are laws prohibits it (with out real internal spec change)...
 
Apple released the A12Z after the A13. Apple doesn't sell SoCs, they sell computers. Introducing an M2 Ultra in a Mac Studio after an M3 in a MacBook Air is not going to confuse anyone as to which is more powerful.

There was no M2 chip this week, because Apple is still in a transition. I think Apple's plan was to get all their systems moved to this first generation of ASi before introducing the next generation.
But the A12Z was only launched via a site refresh not at an event and was developed for the Apple silicon developer transition kit primarily (but let’s be honest it was just the A12X with the extra GPU core enabled) so it was more cost effective to use that chip than waste development time in an A13X, I imagine it was only slapped in the iPad Pro to keep investors happy as Apple knew they were going to slap the M1 in it literally 12 months later…
 
I don't care if the next Air will have an updated M1 or M2, because there's already plenty of power for most users.

I just want Magsafe and a colorful new design (no boring Intel-wedge anymore).
I also like the idea of white bezels and keyboard.
 
Maybe it's time to replace my MBP 13" 2017 this autumn. It will have exceeded the 1000 charging cycle barrier by then.
 
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