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isgoed said:
Nah, you're just talking headless iMac (as I've heard a thousand times before).

Nope. Nothing iMac about it. Not an all in one unit with a built in display by any means. Are you trying to tell me that there is no market for an upgradeable Mac tower in the $1000-$1500 price range now that in can run winBlows [especially for gaming]? Here's a few offerings from other PC manufacturers that Apple now DIRECTLY competes with because of Boot camp: http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200005&Ne=200000

isgoed said:
Apple will not cut in its own iMac sales.

Two completely different products for two completely different demographics. Those who need a display, can by the iMac and will. Like the Mac mini however, those who already have a display larger than 20" or that may want to do some... oh, I dunno, gaming?... and other things where the Mac minis integrated graphics just won't cut it on a large TV in the family room, would probably see this as a good purchase.

Not to mention that whole little Front Row application that comes on EVERY new Mac and is obviously meant to compete with... what? Desktop Media Center PC's often within the $1000 - $1500 price range.

isgoed said:
Apple's offering was: The $1499 single processor PowerMac. You could change the graphics card and upgrade hard-disk/ram yourself. Big mistake on Apple's part to scrap that one.

VERY different times now. Here's a hint: BOOT CAMP.

Seems to me that Apple choosing integrated graphics for the Mac Mini, ditching a $1500 upgradeable Mac that they've already proven that they are willing to produce at that price point [but can now do it for even less if necessary], consequently opening up a $1200 price and product line gap between the $799 Mac mini and $1999 Powermac, and introducing Boot Camp that opens up a TON of new options in terms of ALL KINDS of software, is all a build up to a very simple conclusion.

Something between the crippled [graphics wise] Mac mini and the behemoth, home user intimidating and priced out of range PowerMac. A new product in the $1500 or less price range that will bridge that HUGE performance and price gap.

Again [whether by WWDC or sooner] I predict:

Mac Pro mini [or whatever it's called... basically a mini version of the upcoming Mac Pro]
[upgradeable mini-towers with a single socketed[?... I hope] 32-bit Yonah Core Duo processor]:
- $1099 [128 VRAM + 160GB 7200 rpm hard drive]
- $1399 [256 VRAM + 250GB 7200 rpm hard drive].
(BOTH iMacs AND PowerMacs use 7200 rpm hard drives in those same capacities for the low end and high end models BTW)
 
MacQuest said:
I said "This is my prediction".

Whether it's in the near future [like next week at NAB] or at WWDC when the Mac Pros will be introduced [more likely, since they'll probably be significantly re-designed], it's obvious that Apple has a HUGE product line AND price gap between the highest end Mac mini Intel @ $799 and the lowest Power Mac non-Intel @ $1999.

That's $1200 "epepper9", FYI. And let's see, who likes to upgrade their desktop computers and not use integrated graphics? Hmmm... let's see. OH! GAMERS!. But there's no games for Mac. OH! BOOT CAMP!

Does 2 + 2 = 5 to any of you who are lyfao? Here's a dime, go buy a clue.

I hope that Apple will introduce a miniature version of the Power Mac tower to compete with all of those sub-$1000 - $1500ish towers offered by ALL of the other PC manufacturers. Apple will clean up in that market now that they've introduced Boot Camp.

Again, I say [by WWDC]:

Mac Pro Mini
[upgradeable mini-towers with a single socketed[?... I hope] 32-bit Yonah Core Duo processor]:
- $1099 [128 VRAM + 160GB 7200 rpm hard drive]
- $1399 [256 VRAM + 250GB 7200 rpm hard drive].
(BOTH iMacs AND PowerMacs use 7200 rpm hard drives in those same capacities for the low end and high end models BTW)

Sorry, only skimmed over this thread. Now i feel like a prat!
 
^squirrel^ said:
Sorry, only skimmed over this thread. Now i feel like a prat!

It's "all good" ^squirrel^. :cool:

I'm sure you're not a "prat" (whatever that is). :confused:

Time to start crossing the parts of my body that have never been crossed beore [OUCH! :eek: ].

Regardless, I still believe that sometime during Apple's earnings call tomorrow we'll hear "Yesterday"... or "Today, we introduced new Macintosh notebooks with Intel processors... blah, blah, blah". ;)

JUST GIMME MY MACBOOK ALREADY, STEVE!!! :mad:

Ooops! I just yelled at El Steve-O. :eek:

What I meant was... "May I please endulge in MacBookity goodness now, if you deem it to be appropriate, Senor Jobs?" :eek:

:)

I like emoticons as can be seen by my use ofthem in this particular post. :D
 
I still don't understand why you ae estimating prices of the best Macbook (Which you put the specs better as MBP) cheaper than the Macbook PRO!
 
no, definitely not. this crap is so annoying. every rumor regarding the release date of these things on this site has been wrong.
 
haleyvan said:
no, definitely not. this crap is so annoying. every rumor regarding the release date of these things on this site has been wrong.

I agree but all of Apple's previous events have happened at 10 so there is still hope. (not that i expect it).
Just as long as they are available by mid July
 
®îçhå®? said:
I agree but all of Apple's previous events have happened at 10 so there is still hope. (not that i expect it).
Just as long as they are available by mid July

it's 10:20
 
BRLawyer said:
It was never supposed to happen...you shall see something by end of April, not now...

If it's going to be definitely on tuesday, then there is just one tuesday left in April, which is 25th of April, this means one more week to wait again.
 
if there is no 17" Macbook Pro by the beginning of may, i will probably pull the trigger on a 15". that kinda saddens me. i just want FW800 built in and the better express-card slot.
 
besiktas jk said:
If it's going to be definitely on tuesday, then there is just one tuesday left in April, which is 25th of April, this means one more week to wait again.
Those of you who were set on something happening today should read the rumors a little more closely. Note the following phrase in the original post:

Macrumors said:
according to reports, internal CPU sales goals at retail Apple Stores have been increased substantially starting in May. These estimates suggest Apple is expecting a boost to sales for their CPUs in the next four weeks.
Now, what is going to boost sales substantially other than a MacBook release?

The bad news: yes, we'll have to wait at least two more weeks for the MacBooks (a late April release is possible, but IMHO, unlikely)

The good news: at least the MacBooks are coming in May AND they will probably be available immediately, not with a delay like the MBP's

Keep the faith, people! :)
 
Macosrumors are claiming that it will not be called macbook and will still be called ibook....

But who cares about the name , when are the blooody things coming.:mad:
 
revfife said:
Let's just hope this doesn't turn into a "MacBooks next Tuesday" debacle where every week we will have someone posting on it. :D



Macbooks next Tuesday

Sorry just couldn't resist :D :D :D
 
So looks like this rumor was a dud. No macbook today, no surprise there.

I just saw macosrumors says the ibook will keep the name. What a bunch of idiots, there's no way that's happening, Apple has even said that all macs will have MAC in the name.
 
There has to be superdrive, or something like that, with regular price, just because every other manufacturer have.
 
QCassidy352 said:
No. You said you'd rather see a stripped down 15" MBP sold for cheaper than see a 15" MB. That's what's never going to happen. Why would they price and spec it like a consumer product but keep the "pro" casing and name? Why would you even prefer that? :confused:

I'd be happy with that. But apple has never priced 15" laptops in the "pro" line anywhere near $1500, and I don't see why they'd start now. If there's a $1500 15" laptop, it'll be in the consumer line.

Ok, so like I said before, let's streamline it down to just one laptop and one desktop. Perfect simplicity. :rolleyes:

Of course simplicity is good. But so is actually selling products that your customers want. Apple's lineup is already one of the most simple of any major computer maker. Compare to Dell: They have 3 lines, low (2 sizes), medium, (3 sizes) and high (2 sizes) end. IMO, that's too much. But 2 consumer sizes and 3 pro sizes is not.

There clearly needs to be a balance. Having 4 sizes of macbook and 4 sizes of MBP would be too many choices at the cost of efficient streamlining. Having 1 size of macbook and 2 sizes of MBP would be too far the other way, and I really hope apple doesn't do it.


I did say that the 15" "consumer" model may arrive via keeping the base model but dropping the price, you don't think we'll ever see a price drop on the 15?

At this point we don't know what the ibook will look like, whether it will be plastic or not.

Apple will be able to drop prices on pro machines simply because the components are getting cheaper. They need to in order to stay competitive. You don't think apple will EVER have a $1500 pro laptop (even though many other companies have pro laptops even cheaper)? Sounds like your predictions are out of wack again.

As I've said before, they have a balance. It's just not a balance you agree with. Don't forget, there's also a LOT of pent up demand for these boxes. Apple wants to get as many of these out the door as quickly as they can. Which means it makes sense for them to keep the number of configurations down initially. Later on, they can add more when they bump the product line to address the picky minority that wants a configuration they haven't offered yet.
 
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