MacBook Pro 2020 13" USER Reviews

You are absolutely right, yet not everybody is choosing a 13" primarily because of the portability, you are able to see that, right?
For some it's just the cheaper alternative (to the bigger MBP).

To handle certain workloads, one would like to spec-up a current 13" -
and then the price actually becomes very close to that of a 16", which is massively discounted all over the place at the moment.
I am exactly in this position right now; the price difference between the 2020 10th gen 13" I'd like and an entry level 16" is negligible (the 16" actually being cheaper), so the decision what to go for is really about the differences which are so eloquently presented in that very video.
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I suspect there's more use cases than you'd think - it's just that the high price usually rules out the 16".
Now with the high-tier 13" being quite pricey and the 16" discounted as it is the situation is a bit different.

And, regarding the 16" being "not portable" -
I know for everybody who commutes to work by bike 300 days a year 1.4kg vs. 2 makes a difference, sure,
but for everybody else I don't really think it's such a big deal.
It still fits in a backpack and it's not like you're climbing mountains with it, right?
And you actually get 16" to work with in a form factor like that, which is really quite something.

Sure, if one likes small and light by all means go for a 13",
but people who actually need the machine for work will happily carry a 16" if it gives them what they want.
I used to carry 2-3 times the weight in equipment on a daily basis in my job for 20 years, just sayin'.
You make a good point that people may be up-specifying the 13" to get more performance at a cheaper price than the 16". Whether this is instead of the 16" or simply because their workloads are more suitable I'm not sure. Unless you have a eGPU for the 13" I would think it would still be a different type of workload than the 16" right? If not, then I concede that it may be similar price all things being equal. It is still cheaper though right? Perhaps people/businesses just don't have that additional $200? or $400 or whatever it is. Companies may specify the lower price option because they're buying 100's of them and that cheaper option then adds up. But yes I take your point there is some convergence.

Furthermore on the price - I presume the price is similar because of the refurbished market? If it isn't then disregard this statement - if it is because the 16" is now available refurbed - it's not really comparing like-for-like. Businesses for one don't typically go on the refurb store hoping there's some MacBook that matches their spec, they'll have a standard and just order that. If you're a home-user then sure, some good savings there. You could then argue you'd be cheaper looking at the second-hand market too, or ex-leases, etc, etc.
Thanks for your points, hadn't necessarily thought of that. ✌ :cool:
 
You are absolutely right, yet not everybody is choosing a 13" primarily because of the portability, you are able to see that, right?
For some it's just the cheaper alternative (to the bigger MBP).

To handle certain workloads, one would like to spec-up a current 13" -
and then the price actually becomes very close to that of a 16", which is massively discounted all over the place at the moment.
I am exactly in this position right now; the price difference between the 2020 10th gen 13" I'd like and an entry level 16" is negligible (the 16" actually being cheaper), so the decision what to go for is really about the differences which are so eloquently presented in that very video.
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I suspect there's more use cases than you'd think - it's just that the high price usually rules out the 16".
Now with the high-tier 13" being quite pricey and the 16" discounted as it is the situation is a bit different.

And, regarding the 16" being "not portable" -
I know for everybody who commutes to work by bike 300 days a year 1.4kg vs. 2 makes a difference, sure,
but for everybody else I don't really think it's such a big deal.
It still fits in a backpack and it's not like you're climbing mountains with it, right?
And you actually get 16" to work with in a form factor like that, which is really quite something.

Sure, if one likes small and light by all means go for a 13",
but people who actually need the machine for work will happily carry a 16" if it gives them what they want.
I used to carry 2-3 times the weight in equipment on a daily basis in my job for 20 years, just sayin'.
I have to disagree with you there on the portability. Sure you can lug round the 16". One of my MacBook's right now is a 2018 MBP 15".
But really it's just not that practical. It's not so much the weight - although that is irritating when cycling or walking - it's the size. I do cycle with it, but to suggest you have to do it 300 days a year before it gets impractical is disingenuous. It's slightly annoying day 1, and very annoying day 5.
The 15" (and 16" even more so given it is bigger in every way) is just too large to conveniently, and easily do the following that a 13" absolutely can do (in no particularly order):
  • Carry under your arm offsite some distance
  • Easily get in out or a normal-sized backpack
  • Easily fit in and get in and out of cabin luggage (e.g. the 13" can fit sideways at the top of a cabin bag
  • Use on your lap anywhere including home but especially in shared facilities
  • Use on a tray table on a plane
  • Use on a tray table on a train - on a shared table it's fine - but could be considered a bit rude
  • Use when sharing a table anywhere really
In saying that you are absolutely right - it is very impressive that Apple have crammed so much power into such a small chassis as the 15/16".
But day-to-day it's not that convenient. If you need to travel with it, I would always recommend the smaller size and an external screen. If you absolutely need the power then offloading to cloud workflows is better OR using a desktop is a better option. But the 15/16" has it's place. The GPU is impressive and not having to use an external one is cool. Source: I have one.
Cheers mate - thanks for putting down your experience. It's very valid and not taking away that your use-case is being met by the larger laptop size :cool:
 
@unoporfavor - thank you as well for sharing your experience; good points well made.
It's great we can offer our experiences and use-cases in a respectful way. Everyone's requirements are different after all!
The fact that the 13" gets near 16" performance and is cheaper makes it an absolute bargain in my book! Even If specced out and 13" ended up being more expensive than the 16" I personally would still prefer it 👌🤘
 
I have to disagree with you there on the portability. Sure you can lug round the 16". One of my MacBook's right now is a 2018 MBP 15".
But really it's just not that practical. It's not so much the weight - although that is irritating when cycling or walking - it's the size. I do cycle with it, but to suggest you have to do it 300 days a year before it gets impractical is disingenuous. It's slightly annoying day 1, and very annoying day 5.
The 15" (and 16" even more so given it is bigger in every way) is just too large to conveniently, and easily do the following that a 13" absolutely can do (in no particularly order):
  • Carry under your arm offsite some distance
  • Easily get in out or a normal-sized backpack
  • Easily fit in and get in and out of cabin luggage (e.g. the 13" can fit sideways at the top of a cabin bag
  • Use on your lap anywhere including home but especially in shared facilities
  • Use on a tray table on a plane
  • Use on a tray table on a train - on a shared table it's fine - but could be considered a bit rude
  • Use when sharing a table anywhere really
In saying that you are absolutely right - it is very impressive that Apple have crammed so much power into such a small chassis as the 15/16".
But day-to-day it's not that convenient. If you need to travel with it, I would always recommend the smaller size and an external screen. If you absolutely need the power then offloading to cloud workflows is better OR using a desktop is a better option. But the 15/16" has it's place. The GPU is impressive and not having to use an external one is cool. Source: I have one.
Cheers mate - thanks for putting down your experience. It's very valid and not taking away that your use-case is being met by the larger laptop size :cool:

That’s been exactly my experience with the 16” - I don’t think its heavy, but its unusable while travelling for all those reasons you’ve mentioned. Even when you travel first class and have lots of room, the laptop takes up so much of the space as the footprint is just so damn big!

I often run or bike to clients, so you can imagine the shock when i first put a 15” Pro in my rucksack. That said, I think anything bigger than an iPad or 12” MacBook feels like a chunk of weight if you have to carry it on your back!

I was dead set on a 14” MBP which I had hoped would have the same improvements that the 16” got, but when that didn’t happen I had to have a bit of a re-think. The 13” with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is only £200 cheaper than a refurb 16” so the plan now is to get a refurb and use my 11” iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard for the actual travelling part. I’m struggling to justify the spend on a 13” machine which seems to be the absolute-minimum spec bump to keep it ticking over until the next full re-design.

Like everyone else, I’m not going anywhere in the near future and having sold my 13”, I’m tied to a desk with an iMac - the bigger screen on the 16” will let me work on it all day comfortably without needing an external monitor.
 
That’s been exactly my experience with the 16” - I don’t think its heavy, but its unusable while travelling for all those reasons you’ve mentioned. Even when you travel first class and have lots of room, the laptop takes up so much of the space as the footprint is just so damn big!

I often run or bike to clients, so you can imagine the shock when i first put a 15” Pro in my rucksack. That said, I think anything bigger than an iPad or 12” MacBook feels like a chunk of weight if you have to carry it on your back!

I was dead set on a 14” MBP which I had hoped would have the same improvements that the 16” got, but when that didn’t happen I had to have a bit of a re-think. The 13” with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is only £200 cheaper than a refurb 16” so the plan now is to get a refurb and use my 11” iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard for the actual travelling part. I’m struggling to justify the spend on a 13” machine which seems to be the absolute-minimum spec bump to keep it ticking over until the next full re-design.

Like everyone else, I’m not going anywhere in the near future and having sold my 13”, I’m tied to a desk with an iMac - the bigger screen on the 16” will let me work on it all day comfortably without needing an external monitor.
Interesting. If the 13" was 200 bucks /quid more expensive than the 16" I'd still see it as a better option. As it's cheaper it's quite frankly a bargain! But it all depends on the fit for purpose of course!
I still find the 15" bit small for all day use BUT it is a lot better than the 13"
Thanks for your viewpoint and experiences so far! They're all great computers.:apple: Totally agree the 13" is on the edge for portability, but at least it is possible to be productive on it.
Cheers mate 👍✌
 
Interesting. If the 13" was 200 bucks /quid more expensive than the 16" I'd still see it as a better option. As it's cheaper it's quite frankly a bargain! But it all depends on the fit for purpose of course!
I still find the 15" bit small for all day use BUT it is a lot better than the 13"
Thanks for your viewpoint and experiences so far! They're all great computers.:apple: Totally agree the 13" is on the edge for portability, but at least it is possible to be productive on it.
Cheers mate 👍✌

Don’t get me wrong, the 13” MBP has been my go-to laptop for as long as I can remember. The latest one is a fantastic mix of power v portability. I think what’s changed things in the last week or so is how good the Magic Keyboard is, so that with the 11” gives me something ultra-portable again meaning I can have a larger machine to work-on at home and anywhere I don’t need to run/bike to.
 
Deciding on laptop is hard. Torn between what I want MBP16 and what will do the job for me MBP13. Never had a laptop smaller than 15in. My first two were 17in before they quit making them. Then because I have waited this long (I currently have mid 2012 MBP 15) the proposed new one is just possibly just months away. Of course when that comes out I will want to wait for the reviews and opinions before I pull the trigger. The cycle will start again until my current one finally dies.
 
Received my 2020 13" MBP (4-port model) exactly one week ago (just 3 days after ordering!). Been using it quite a lot since then. For what it's worth, here's my review.

I didn't plan on buying this computer. I'm more of a MB Air guy. Love the Air's form-factor, the physical Fn keys, and don't really need the power of a MBP for 90% of my work flow.

I was thrilled when Apple announced the 2020 Air with quad-core i5 option and Magic Keyboard. I ordered one right away, intending to replace my 2018 MB Air.

I returned the 2020 MBA after 12 days. It ran hot and the fan was on quite often, not just when doing processor-intensive tasks but for everyday stuff. In side by side comparisons with my 2018 MBA, it didn't complete everyday tasks or processor-intensive tasks any faster, even tho the 2018 MBA has an older and supposedly much slower processor.

A couple weeks later, Apple announced the new MB Pros with Magic Keyboard. I ordered the $1799 MB Pro right away. It's been great, except for battery life. It's way faster than the Air (even the 2018 Air!) (that "!" was sarcastic, btw). The fans are usually off, sometimes run quietly, and almost never run loud. It can handle everything I throw at it, and then some. The display is more color-rich than the MB Air's display (tho the MBA display is very good IMHO). I like having thunderbolt ports on either side, and having four of them - I'm less dongle-dependent.

Two bummers - battery life and the Touch Bar.

On this new MB Pro, I'm only getting 5-6 hours of battery life per charge, maybe 7 hours if I have brightness down to 50-60% and don't use Zoom. Zoom is an effing battery hog, battery life falls about 35% per hour on a Zoom conference call. But even without video conferencing, battery life falls far short of the 10 hours Apple claims.

The Touch Bar for me is problematic. I type fast, and sometimes one of my fingers lightly grazes the bottom edge of the TB and causes a TB command to activate. I have my TB set to always show the "expanded control strip" quick action commands--the ones on the MB Air's Fn keys - brightness, volume, play/pause/rewind, etc. When I'm doing a lot of typing, I sometimes accidentally trigger the music app - which then opens on top of whatever app I was working in, so i have to interrupt my work to close it. Super annoying. Sometimes, TB commands seem to be triggered even when my fingers are nowhere near the TB.

There is a partial fix - customize the TB strip and remove all of the things you don't absolutely need, so that most of it is just blank space. But I don't like paying for a feature that I have to disable, and disabling it leaves me without most Fn keys or quick-access commands that I would have with the MB Air keyboard.

But my TB experience is not a deal-breaker, it's an annoyance. In every other respect, I'm very happy with the 2020 MB Pro.

I know many people are disappointed that the $1299 model is essentially last year's model with a Magic Keyboard and bigger SSD for the same money. But for people like me who aren't power users, I think it's a great option.

But if you can afford the $1799 model, I'd like to argue that it's a very good value:

Start with the $1299 model. I think it's a great computer for the money, but I need more than 256GB SSD. So add $200 for the upgrade to 512GB. I can live with 8GB RAM, but I prefer 16GB and Apple only charges $100 to upgrade to 16GB, so that's a no-brainer. So now I'm at $1599.

Compare this configuration with the $1799 model. The extra $200 buys you a 10th gen processor with faster performance and much better graphics performance, faster RAM, and two extra Thunderbolt 3 ports. To me, that seems like a lot of value for an extra $200.

The 13" MBP that Apple just introduced has the same design as the late 2016 model, not the new 14" design that's been rumored for a while. When the 14" model comes out, maybe I'll be kicking myself for buying this 13" model instead of waiting. But anytime you buy a computer or tablet or phone, there's always the risk you'll regret not waiting until the next model comes out the following year. People who bought a 2019 MB Pro with butterfly keyboard might be kicking themselves for not waiting now that the 2020 13" MBP comes with a Magic keyboard and bigger SSD for the same price.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the 2020 13" MBP. I know some of you disagree and I respect your opinions, but wanted to share mine in case it's helpful for people trying to decide what to buy.
 
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Has anyone tried connecting their 13" Macbook Pro 2020 to an external monitor yet? I know a lot of folks on the 16" forum complain about the fan noise when doing this and I wondered whether the 13" Macbook Pro exhibited the same issue?

I was considering buying a new 13" MBP to replace my 12" Macbook. I generally use my current Macbook open and connected to a monitor about 2/3rds of the time so it would annoy me if the fans were running continuously at full speed whilst I'm working!
 
Hey guys, I'm also waiting for my new MacBook Pro 2020 1.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD to arrive.

I'm currently using a 2018 MBP 2.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD. I'm happy with the performance and I'm only upgrading because the keyboard is horrible.

Do you think I'll notice much of a performance drop due to the lower clock rate?

Also, I'm still kind of torn whether this was the right decision. I don't think I need the power of the 10th gen, but I'm not fond of the idea of sacrificing one fan and two ports just to get a better keyboard.

However, the 10th gen MBP would cost 500 EUR (around 540 USD) more, which is just too much for me to justify.

Do you think I made the right call?

My main concerns are: worse performance than my current model and a louder fan/worse thermal design...
im thinking to buy this conf.
did you get your machine?
are you satisfied with that?
 
Has anyone tried connecting their 13" Macbook Pro 2020 to an external monitor yet? I know a lot of folks on the 16" forum complain about the fan noise when doing this and I wondered whether the 13" Macbook Pro exhibited the same issue?

I was considering buying a new 13" MBP to replace my 12" Macbook. I generally use my current Macbook open and connected to a monitor about 2/3rds of the time so it would annoy me if the fans were running continuously at full speed whilst I'm working!

Anecdotally, I've heard one person who just bought the lower-end 2020 MBP complain that the UI was laggy when runniing it with a 4k monitor. Not an issue with fans / heat; just that she said that the standard window manager transitions (eg switching desktops, apps minimising / maximising etc) were rather slow and juddery.

Not my own experience, just something I heard from a colleague. Are these models still running the previous iGPU (Iris Plus??)?

Edit: Correction, she was using an LG Ultrafine 5k monitor
 
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what about the battery life? are there any experiences? some people (the Verge, roncron) say that it is only about 5-7 hours. arstechnica and laptopmag say that it ist more than 10 hours.
 
what about the battery life? are there any experiences? some people (the Verge, roncron) say that it is only about 5-7 hours. arstechnica and laptopmag say that it ist more than 10 hours.

I seriously doubt that 10 hour figure. In mixed usage I'm seeing about 5 hours, maybe I could make it to 6 if I really dim the screen and not use handoff but that's not how people normally use their laptops. Even worse if you're hammering the CPU watching 4K videos or running a virtual machine.
 
Received my 2020 13" MBP (4-port model) exactly one week ago (just 3 days after ordering!). Been using it quite a lot since then. For what it's worth, here's my review.

I didn't plan on buying this computer. I'm more of a MB Air guy. Love the Air's form-factor, the physical Fn keys, and don't really need the power of a MBP for 90% of my work flow.

I was thrilled when Apple announced the 2020 Air with quad-core i5 option and Magic Keyboard. I ordered one right away, intending to replace my 2018 MB Air.

I returned the 2020 MBA after 12 days. It ran hot and the fan was on quite often, not just when doing processor-intensive tasks but for everyday stuff. In side by side comparisons with my 2018 MBA, it didn't complete everyday tasks or processor-intensive tasks any faster, even tho the 2018 MBA has an older and supposedly much slower processor.

A couple weeks later, Apple announced the new MB Pros with Magic Keyboard. I ordered the $1799 MB Pro right away. It's been great, except for battery life. It's way faster than the Air (even the 2018 Air!) (that "!" was sarcastic, btw). The fans are usually off, sometimes run quietly, and almost never run loud. It can handle everything I throw at it, and then some. The display is more color-rich than the MB Air's display (tho the MBA display is very good IMHO). I like having thunderbolt ports on either side, and having four of them - I'm less dongle-dependent.

Two bummers - battery life and the Touch Bar.

On this new MB Pro, I'm only getting 5-6 hours of battery life per charge, maybe 7 hours if I have brightness down to 50-60% and don't use Zoom. Zoom is an effing battery hog, battery life falls about 35% per hour on a Zoom conference call. But even without video conferencing, battery life falls far short of the 10 hours Apple claims.

The Touch Bar for me is problematic. I type fast, and sometimes one of my fingers lightly grazes the bottom edge of the TB and causes a TB command to activate. I have my TB set to always show the "expanded control strip" quick action commands--the ones on the MB Air's Fn keys - brightness, volume, play/pause/rewind, etc. When I'm doing a lot of typing, I sometimes accidentally trigger the music app - which then opens on top of whatever app I was working in, so i have to interrupt my work to close it. Super annoying. Sometimes, TB commands seem to be triggered even when my fingers are nowhere near the TB.

There is a partial fix - customize the TB strip and remove all of the things you don't absolutely need, so that most of it is just blank space. But I don't like paying for a feature that I have to disable, and disabling it leaves me without most Fn keys or quick-access commands that I would have with the MB Air keyboard.

But my TB experience is not a deal-breaker, it's an annoyance. In every other respect, I'm very happy with the 2020 MB Pro.

I know many people are disappointed that the $1299 model is essentially last year's model with a Magic Keyboard and bigger SSD for the same money. But for people like me who aren't power users, I think it's a great option.

But if you can afford the $1799 model, I'd like to argue that it's a very good value:

Start with the $1299 model. I think it's a great computer for the money, but I need more than 256GB SSD. So add $200 for the upgrade to 512GB. I can live with 8GB RAM, but I prefer 16GB and Apple only charges $100 to upgrade to 16GB, so that's a no-brainer. So now I'm at $1599.

Compare this configuration with the $1799 model. The extra $200 buys you a 10th gen processor with faster performance and much better graphics performance, faster RAM, and two extra Thunderbolt 3 ports. To me, that seems like a lot of value for an extra $200.

The 13" MBP that Apple just introduced has the same design as the late 2016 model, not the new 14" design that's been rumored for a while. When the 14" model comes out, maybe I'll be kicking myself for buying this 13" model instead of waiting. But anytime you buy a computer or tablet or phone, there's always the risk you'll regret not waiting until the next model comes out the following year. People who bought a 2019 MB Pro with butterfly keyboard might be kicking themselves for not waiting now that the 2020 13" MBP comes with a Magic keyboard and bigger SSD for the same price.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the 2020 13" MBP. I know some of you disagree and I respect your opinions, but wanted to share mine in case it's helpful for people trying to decide what to buy.

How much battery life were you getting with the MBA?
 
Has anyone tried connecting their 13" Macbook Pro 2020 to an external monitor yet? I know a lot of folks on the 16" forum complain about the fan noise when doing this and I wondered whether the 13" Macbook Pro exhibited the same issue?

I was considering buying a new 13" MBP to replace my 12" Macbook. I generally use my current Macbook open and connected to a monitor about 2/3rds of the time so it would annoy me if the fans were running continuously at full speed whilst I'm working!
I picked up the 10th gen 2.3/32GB/2TB 2020 13" today (they keep this model stocked at Apple Stores).

I am one of those complaining about the 16" when connected to external displays.

I have to say the 13" is VERY impressive. I have 2x 4k displays connected via TS3+ Caldigit. I run at scaled mode (looks like 2560x1440 / 5k scaled) which is a little more GPU intensive. And I have to say it handles it great.
I don't game. And only occasionally edit my GoPro/iPhone footage in 4k60p. I tried it out on the 13" and it handles it fine. The 16" is better for this.
But for every day use, the 13" kills it with external displays. Completely silent. Whereas the 16" dedicated dGPU (can't be disabled when you connect external displays) draws 20w constantly and gets hot/gets loud when watching a simple video on YouTube.

My only complaint is going from 8 cores to quad. If only there was a hex-core i7 10th gen available for this form-factor. This machine would be perfect.
 
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As I've originally ordered the 2020's MBA (i7, 16GB, 512gb) I was kind of disappointed after delivery because of the fan being activated already while setting up the machine. Also the so much expected "Wow"-effect compared to my late 2008 MBP 5,1 (which did and does a great job thanks to 8GB RAM and SSD-upgrade, but in the meantime lacking mobility cause of the battery life and the fact I wanted a smaller notebook) stayed out. On the day of delivery, the new MBP was ready to order. Seeing the relatively small additional charge from my MBA-config to the 10th gen i5 MBP (200€ in education store), I ordered the MBP 10th gen i5/16GB/512SSD and compared the machines now directly to each other.
And I must say, that I am impressed. Just heard the fans once, as I've been using photoshop (which also runs much better compared to the MBA) while synchronizing a huge data amount with my NAS (doing some synchronization NAS/MacBook/iMac). All the other times, the MBP was quiet as hell, playing back Spotify with much better speakers while using photoshop, enjoying the much better display and fluently workflows.
Now this MBP is the update, I needed to be impressed compared to my 2008 MBP :) I'm absolutely sure, I won't need its power in 90% I'm working on it, but knowing it's got the performance as I need it, makes me feel good :D
Consequently returned the MBA.
 
TLDR: I'm disappointed from fan noise and temperatures

Old: MBP2018, i5 2.3GHz, 16GB RAM (bought in August 2018)
New: MBP2020, i5 2.0GHz, 16GB RAM

Plus-side: The keyboard is great.
Neutral: Performance gains are negligible.
Down-side: The cooling system runs hotter & louder. It also sounds way more intrusive than the 2018 model.

Example: Cinebench R20
Shortly after starting the benchmark the fans kicked in and went to max. on the 2020 model.
The 2018 model was rather cool. Fans kicked in later and did not reach the max. RPM.

Here are some screenshots of IntelPowerGadget & Cinebench R20:

MBP 2018:
MBP2018.png

MBP 2020:
MBP2020.png
 
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TLDR: I'm disappointed from fan noise and temperatures

Old: MBP2018, i5 2.3GHz, 16GB RAM (bought in August 2018)
New: MBP2020, i5 2.0GHz, 16GB RAM

Plus-side: The keyboard is great.
Neutral: Performance gains are negligible.
Down-side: The cooling system runs hotter & louder. It also sounds way more intrusive than the 2018 model.

That's disappointing to hear and quite surprising given it's not what many reviews have said? Clearly that's what the benchmarks and stats you've provided show though and like you say there's very little performance improvement from the new 10th gen in that benchmark!

Is that just when running Cinebench or in general use ?

These latest Intel chips are sounding pretty half-baked. It seems like the minor speed improvements they've made have come about by cranking up the voltage/frequency which has been at the expense of battery life and increased temperatures/noise :(

There's a great deal of mixed reviews and opinions on the web about whether the 10th gen chips are genuinely better than the 8th. I'm not sure who to believe ! 🤔
 
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That is exactly what i am thinking about.
Right now the Base 256 GB running 16 GB is perfectly fine for me - however there is a difference of > 500€ when switching to the 10th Gen including 512 GB.

I want to buy this one for longevity as i am running a mbp 13 2015 8/128 right now which will be replaced.
 
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That is exactly what i am thinking about.
Right now the Base 256 GB running 16 GB is perfectly fine for me - however there is a difference of > 500€ when switching to the 10th Gen including 512 GB.

That's what it comes down to for most people as far as I can see.

Do you buy the 8th gen Macbook Pro 13" with 16Gb/256Gb for $1400

OR

Do you buy the 10th gen Macbook Pro 13" with 16Gb/512Gb for $1800


Basically.......


Is the 10th gen chipset and an extra 256Gb of storage worth an extra $400

🤔
 
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On a more serious note you are aware that Cinebench is really pushing the limits as much as possible right, so completely understandable the machine is maxing out fans etc.

Did you try any real-life work scenarios - what was your experience with this?

I received the new machine one day ago. So no long-term experience yet.
However, right from the beginning, I noticed the different fan noise. So I ran Cinebench for direct comparison and got the above results.
 
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