A lot of people are disappointed with the gains from the 8th to 10th gen cpu.
If you don’t need that little bit of extra horsepower, save your money and get the 8th gen.
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MacBook Pro 2020 13" USER Reviews
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A lot of people are disappointed with the gains from the 8th to 10th gen cpu.
If you don’t need that little bit of extra horsepower, save your money and get the 8th gen.
Thanks mate - just to clarify - do you mean battery gains or performance gains? the single-core gains seem impressive on the 10th gen but I don't want to sacrifice battery life!
Performance gains.
Shouldn’t see much of a difference when it comes to battery life on either chipset.
I don’t have quantifications of battery life, speed benchmarks, etc, since I’m still in the process of downloading apps and data to my computer...but initial impression is: WOW. I love it. Keyboard is fantastic, screen is great. Super fast. No complaints whatsoever.
I was initially hesitant upon my order, going for the 13” when the 16” was basically same price if not a bit cheaper, but nope, all hesitation is out the window now. No doubt in my mind it is the right choice for me.
Model: 10th Gen i7 / 32GB RAM / 2TB
I was initially hesitant upon my order, going for the 13” when the 16” was basically same price if not a bit cheaper, but nope, all hesitation is out the window now. No doubt in my mind it is the right choice for me.
Model: 10th Gen i7 / 32GB RAM / 2TB
That is disappointing on the battery life! Was hoping there was some optimisation gains there.
The performance benchmarking seems to show that single-core tasks on the 10th gen to be significantly faster. I'd sacrifice for battery though!
Wouldn’t sweat to much about battery life.
Battery life should be better than most laptops out there,
MacBooks have always been known for having good battery life.
Unless you use chrome. 😂
Loving my 8th Gen, seems to always stay cool, haven’t heard the fan come on in general use. I had no intention of paying $1000 Aussie dollars for the 10th gen, not worth it for me. No regrets here.
Smart move, couldn’t justify the $2999 price tag for the 10th gen models.
Guessing you went with 16gig ram since it’s so cheap on the 8th gen model. 😁
Got my 10th gen. iNtel model today. Keyboard and physical esc key are nice. I can't feel a lot of difference in performance from my base 2019 model so far. My GeekBench scores are 1186 single core and 4311 multicore. A nice improvement over my 2019 base model, but again I can't really feel it. Maybe when I do some photo editing I will notice an improvement. Big surprise: speakers are much better than my 2019 13" MBP. Oh, and the new inverted T arrow keys: Thank you Apple!
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Not in Australia. lol
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Don't forget that you pay the price what you see. So you give $2300 and leave the shop. In USA at the checkout you pay the tax, so final price will be $1800+180=$1980.
Also keep in mind that NL charges you VAT at 21%. So that 21% actually goes as a tax to the Dutch government and they use it for your best cycling roads, monthly payments to school students, nice and clean roads, transportation discounts, $800 homeless pays and medicine, which won't let you die and sell the house.
So $2300-21% VAT = $1900. 100 dollar difference between the US price is volatility between euro and dollar also shipping and customs cost.
At the end, it doesn't look so bad.
been looking for speaker reviews; thank you. Didn’t know if they actually did a nice upgrade to the 2019 models
Just unwrapped Ultimate i7/32/2TB version. Returned 2020 MBA i7 loaded model for this one.
So far it blows the MBA i7 out of the water
SSD twice as fast vs 2020 MBA 1TB
Waiting for indexing to stop before running Cinebench
So far it blows the MBA i7 out of the water
SSD twice as fast vs 2020 MBA 1TB
Waiting for indexing to stop before running Cinebench
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From what I can hear in that video the 10th gen's built in mic does sound a bit crispier as well.
Can someone confirm the 512gb SSD on the high end model is slower than the 1Tb/2Tb variants? The Maxtech guy ran Blackmagic on the 512 and the result was under 2Gb/s write/read, however I keep seeing screenshots here for the 1Tb/2Tb showing ~2,5Gb/s speeds.
It's not a deal breaker but I would be a bit disappointed if the SSD is not that much faster than the one on my 13" 2015, and that's PCI-e 2.0
It's not a deal breaker but I would be a bit disappointed if the SSD is not that much faster than the one on my 13" 2015, and that's PCI-e 2.0
I get around 2 GB/s read and write speeds on the 512GB SSD in the higher end model.
Like-for-like on the 8th gen, the memory and storage is closer to $550
If you up the processor speed closer to the 10th gen the difference is only $100
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The larger size SSD's will always be faster
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I think the performance gains are quite substantial and other than the years where they've added extra cores, one of the bigger jumps from year to year. You've around 30% faster single core, 15% on multicore and graphics anywhere from 50 - 75%. This is excluding the other benefits of the higher end model like more ports, extra fan and better speakers.
If you look at the 10th gen H series chips (Ones in the MacBook Pro 16) then they are around 7% faster than the 9th gen and have no faster integrated graphics at all. That's not a big gain.
Having said that it still doesn't mean you'll notice the difference in day to day usage. It depends what your doing but if your just doing some office docs, browsing and so on I highly doubt you'd be able to tell the difference. Computers have long since been fast enough for those kind of tasks.
Even on my wife's 2013 MacBook Pro 15 it's still more than fast enough on those tasks. It'll browse smooth as butter in Safari, Office apps work without any issues and even though the SSD is limited to SATA speeds so it's around 4x slower, apps still open pretty damn quickly. I mean I expect when my MacBook Pro 13 arrives I'll notice it opens apps much faster but it's going to be like 1 sec vs 3 maybe. 3 seconds is still not that long is my point.
So nothing to feel bad about if you go for the 8th gen, it's still going to be very fast and capable. You might not even notice the difference to the 10th gen outside of benchmarks but saying the 10th gen performance is disappointing I think is also misselling it.
If you compare apples to apples, you only pay €1756 or about $1905.
The remaining €373 (in taxes) goes to your government and not to Apple.
Hey guys, I'm also waiting for my new MacBook Pro 2020 1.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD to arrive.
I'm currently using a 2018 MBP 2.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD. I'm happy with the performance and I'm only upgrading because the keyboard is horrible.
Do you think I'll notice much of a performance drop due to the lower clock rate?
Also, I'm still kind of torn whether this was the right decision. I don't think I need the power of the 10th gen, but I'm not fond of the idea of sacrificing one fan and two ports just to get a better keyboard.
However, the 10th gen MBP would cost 500 EUR (around 540 USD) more, which is just too much for me to justify.
Do you think I made the right call?
My main concerns are: worse performance than my current model and a louder fan/worse thermal design...
I'm currently using a 2018 MBP 2.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD. I'm happy with the performance and I'm only upgrading because the keyboard is horrible.
Do you think I'll notice much of a performance drop due to the lower clock rate?
Also, I'm still kind of torn whether this was the right decision. I don't think I need the power of the 10th gen, but I'm not fond of the idea of sacrificing one fan and two ports just to get a better keyboard.
However, the 10th gen MBP would cost 500 EUR (around 540 USD) more, which is just too much for me to justify.
Do you think I made the right call?
My main concerns are: worse performance than my current model and a louder fan/worse thermal design...
I know there's some posters here who poopoo single core performance and say it's no longer relevant, but how responsive your computer feels in day to day tasks is still affected by single core speed. The 10th gen in the MBP 13 is a true 10th gen 10nm chip while the 45 watt "10th gen" that will likely be used in the next MBP 16 refresh is another Skylake+++ 14nm+++ Intel retread, hence the modest improvements.
Back to the MBP 13 2020, for me, it's definitely more responsive than the loaded 2020 i7/16/1TB MBA that I got initially. Even the SSD speed boost is notable as it's moving files and installing much faster than the MBA did with it's admittedly slow SSD that's roughly comparable to the SSD in my 2013 MBP 13. Although the 2020 MBP 13 10th gen SSD is fast, it's still a bit slower than state of the art NVME drives like the Samsung 970 Evo Plus which do 3500 read/3200 write