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A webcam (and mic and light sensor) can require a notch if there’s no bezel. That’s not complicated.
Not really.

Flagship Android phones have a front camera, which is equivalent to a webcam, and they're mostly punch holes now.

They also have a mic, and it's still a punch hole. Plus, the mic is better if it's NOT in front of the display, and you can even have a mic array this way, which is probably the route Apple is going to take (à la iMac).
 
Here is what it looks like when not displaying only the wallpaper.
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I had a similar idea:
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Stop thinking that there is a notch taking away screen real estate, instead, think that there is now new screen real estate (divided by the camera) that used to be a black bezel…
We have a winner!
Either way, if the notch is hidden, people will complain that the top bezel is too thick.
 
Ha ha, makes me laugh even more… trying to make numbers work into your perspective, but just continue, just another conspiracy theory… x86 is in decline and it will continue at an even more rapid pace in 2022
Not following you comments you have with the other user too much, but x86 in decline is not accurate. The corporate users will not be on anything else for many years. And x86 machines sales will always dwarf Apple sales. By a substantial margin. You statement is fairly accurate in the Apple world, but overall, that's a small world really.
 
Not following you comments you have with the other user too much, but x86 in decline is not accurate. The corporate users will not be on anything else for many years. And x86 machines sales will always dwarf Apple sales. By a substantial margin. You statement is fairly accurate in the Apple world, but overall, that's a small world really.
I started back in IT job a month ago and my conclusion is, x86 owns the enterprise by a wide margin. There are Dell Optiplexes being rolled out every single day. At the end of the day, Windows as a managed client is not going away and neither is x86. That extends beyond the corporate walls. Macs are still luxury clients and will target a certain demographic. Don't get me wrong, its more visible these days. For instance, one of the systems for a user was not working and they brought their 16 inch MacBook Pro to work and never even told us he was using it on the network.
 
Apple: stop spreading false/sketchy rumors around. Are you doing this so people can talk about the upcoming Mac and the new event or what? Apple’s marketing team is working hard this weekend. Getting that free publicity, advertisement and attention without paying a single penny.

So the notch is present and Face ID isn’t? What’s the point of having a notch???

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Following a sketchy rumor that claimed the next MacBook Pro models could feature a notch at the top of the display, an alleged photo of a MacBook Pro with a notch was shared today by Weibo account AnyTurtle999, as spotted by Twitter account DuanRui.

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A close-up view of the alleged notch at the top of the image appears to show a FaceTime camera, microphone, and an ambient light sensor for True Tone. Earlier this week, a Reddit user claimed that the next MacBook Pro will not feature Face ID despite having a notch, with a Touch ID sensor expected to remain above the keyboard for authentication.

The photo is blurry and it's unclear if it's authentic, so some skepticism is warranted here. If the photo proves to be real, however, it suggests that the next MacBook Pro models could feature very thin bezels around the display.

In the macOS Monterey beta, MacRumors discovered potential display resolutions of 3024x1964 and 3456x2234 for the rumored 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models. When subtracting 74 pixels from the height of both, the resulting 3024x1890 and 3456x2160 resolutions work out to an aspect ratio of 16:10. All of Apple's current MacBooks feature a 16:10 aspect ratio, leading to speculation that the extra 74 pixels could be for a notch.

Apple is hosting a virtual event on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time, with rumors widely suggesting the event will be focused on redesigned 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with a faster version of the M1 chip and brighter mini-LED displays. The notebooks are also expected to feature an HDMI port, an SD card reader, and a magnetic power cable, while ditching the Touch Bar in favor of a return to physical Fn keys.

Article Link: MacBook Pro Display With Notch Shown in Alleged Photo Leak
This would be the dumbest thing, dumber than the touchbar. What a wast of screen real estate for a feature that is used like .1% of the time. I guess they did but learn for thier touchbar disaster, or crappy keyboard.
 
I’m not sure how the rumor media supposedly missed the notched displays in the leaked quanta schematic documents then remembered as soon as the notch was suggested again.



Likely Apple has a myriad of schematics for each new product line, especially if the other rumors are true about them brining back more ports. Could simply be that the iteration that was leaked was not the final one or an abandoned one. Or it could be the notch is not going to happen :)
 
@LFC2020 the notch might become a thing on a Mac. How much are you selling your M1X Mac for now. Pretty sure any 💻 without a notch will get a good resale value.

not gonna buy any Macbook without a notch... why spend the big bucks and let the whole world that you're buying old tech? :)

same reason the slightly smaller notch on my iPhone 13 Pro Max tells other people that I have the latest iPhones. (not the previous iPhone 12 Pro Max with the MUCH bigger notch!) :) :) :)
 
Not really.

Flagship Android phones have a front camera, which is equivalent to a webcam, and they're mostly punch holes now.

They also have a mic, and it's still a punch hole. Plus, the mic is better if it's NOT in front of the display, and you can even have a mic array this way, which is probably the route Apple is going to take (à la iMac).
Again, phones are much thicker than MBP screens. We should not be comparing phones or tablets with 1mm thin screens. You just can't do the same things.
 
Not following you comments you have with the other user too much, but x86 in decline is not accurate. The corporate users will not be on anything else for many years. And x86 machines sales will always dwarf Apple sales. By a substantial margin. You statement is fairly accurate in the Apple world, but overall, that's a small world really.
you are correct in that x86 will continue the dominance for some time, but:
.Chromebook are used in enterprise and Google is starting on its own silicon
. Microsoft is rumored to do their own ARM chips/or use Qualcomm/Nuvia
. Win11 supposedly runs on ARM
. Apple market share is ~ 8% give or take ...
so, if for simplicity I say x86 was 100% prior to M1, then x86 is going down by Apple's market share to 92% and once other ARM laptops start showing up, that number will further decline.
And in the server space, similar things going on, quite a few rumors that certain cloud providers are designing their own or switch to the likes of Ampere and such ...

Bottom line, x86 is in decline.
 
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My Z Fold 3, multiple monitors, and all of my TVs are all nearly bezeless. Everything that you've said is beyond ridiculous. Clearly you have bezel envy. Wow 😳
Thank you. The reply I wanted to write would get me banned. Appholes are out in force over a rumor that’s probably not true.
 
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Not a fan, Don't need a better camera, how many people spend 12 hours on their Mac using the the webcam.
What magical land have you lived in for the past 20 months??? The rest of us live in a place where were glued to virtual meetings all day every day. Nevermind apple has been shoving camera tech from 2010 in macs all this time in the most inexcusable fashion. One Apple put 480 P cameras an IMAX every Windows computer in the world was already at 720.
they literally just put their first 1080 P camera in the latest iMac. How do you people defend this crap in any fashion is beyond me.
 
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Idiotic deflection of a valid point. Apple users often bend over without vaseline and smile doing it while handing their credit card over for the pleasure of being screwed that only apple can do.

The idea that 200 million people each year only buy an iPhone because of the logo is absurd.
 
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