And it is also exclusively USB-C/TB3. We didn't see massive threads about how HP was "losing it." Most reviewers fawned over it.
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MacBook Pro First Impressions: A Lightweight 'Engineering Marvel' With Beautiful Screen
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I was half-joking... My old 2010 MBP, which acted as the family computed, passed away recently.
I might get an Air to replace it, but not sure if I should wait or get a refurb now.
Small package for a 28W chip (most other notebooks this size use the 15W) chips, plus the wide gamut display and the Touch Bar.
I would say your best bet is to grab a Dell Laptop and an Android phone then. Or maybe even a Windows phone so you can have the tile interface on both devices. Those both will have the headphone jack you require.
Needed to eliminate the home button helping out waterproofing.
Also they squeezed a little more battery in.
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For a machine that's supposed to be portable and aimed at "pros", those new machines are going to require most professional users to lug around all kinds of adapters in order to get any real work done. That kind of destroys the whole "thin and light" idea that Apple is pushing on all of their products, if you ask me. Adapters only make my laptop bag heavier and are one more thing that can be forgotten or lost. Pain in the ass.
Here are the specs from their spec page:
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/Laptops/envy-13
Your choice of
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128 GB M.2 SSD
256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
1 TB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
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Only the 128GB is wanting, but my comparison was made with the 256GB pcie
Says NVMe forgive my typo.
The five hour battery life was LAST YEAR. It upgraded this october.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10755...3-laptops-with-kaby-lake-usbc-new-battery-849
Anandtech is giving it a good review.
http://www.bestproducts.com/tech/news/a500/hp-updated-spectre-x360-envy-13-laptops/
As for the SSD M.2 NMVe vs the PCIe on the apple. I would need more specs.
The price is a bit steep for sure, but I'm not sure which functionality you are referring to?
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NVM is NVMe, or Non-Volatile Memory Express for long.
Lol! I think we're the only ones on this board that actually like the MacBook Pro... I put my order for the 15" MBP too!
Seems like everyone that used the Touch Bar during the demo was fanatically and ultra careful with the placement of their fingers, looked to me that it is just too small for accurate control.
I'd suggest waiting another year or two because then the Touch Bar will most likely be a little bigger (taller) with Force Touch feedback making it a lot easier to use.
They will probably also add back the SD card slot after the pro photographers stop buying MacBook Pros. That beautiful and thin enclosure isn't going to look very good with an SD card reader taped to its cover.
After having said that, the new Touch Bar is definitely here to stay, in a few more years it may turn out to be one of those features that becomes commonplace on all notebook computers (I say that even though I believe similar technology has been tried and failed before).
As for the lack of a Lightning connector to use with your iOS devices and new Lightning enabled headphones it's never going to happen on a Mac. What they should have done with the new iPhones is to use USB-C rather than Lightning -- brain-dead stupid to remove the analog headphone jack and continue with the Lightning port. They would NOT have had a problem if they had just switched over to USB-C on the iPhone 7 (anyway, will probably happen next year or the following, making all of those Lightning headphone obsolete).
I'd suggest waiting another year or two because then the Touch Bar will most likely be a little bigger (taller) with Force Touch feedback making it a lot easier to use.
They will probably also add back the SD card slot after the pro photographers stop buying MacBook Pros. That beautiful and thin enclosure isn't going to look very good with an SD card reader taped to its cover.
After having said that, the new Touch Bar is definitely here to stay, in a few more years it may turn out to be one of those features that becomes commonplace on all notebook computers (I say that even though I believe similar technology has been tried and failed before).
As for the lack of a Lightning connector to use with your iOS devices and new Lightning enabled headphones it's never going to happen on a Mac. What they should have done with the new iPhones is to use USB-C rather than Lightning -- brain-dead stupid to remove the analog headphone jack and continue with the Lightning port. They would NOT have had a problem if they had just switched over to USB-C on the iPhone 7 (anyway, will probably happen next year or the following, making all of those Lightning headphone obsolete).
Get a USB-C cable to connect it instead of the USB-A cable you currently use. Not exactly a major problem.
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You only need one, small adapter really. The new docks are tiny and have all the ports you need.
Well, there are certainly some things that look interesting. I'll reserve judgement on the keyboard since it's not the same exact thing as in the MacBook, but it will have to be far, far, far better before before it could even be considered "acceptable" in my book. Then again, I'm an excellent touch-typist and generally a very good "muscle-memory" guy, so the less real-world feedback I get from something the less I like it and the harder it is for me to use (I also prefer the trackpads with real-mechanical-moving clicking to the new fake-movement FFB models). It will be interesting to see if Apple managed to pull off some magic and actually make it good. The price is definitely a bit appalling, and Apple seems dead-set on never providing a powerful-yet-small laptop again. Would love to see that AMD GPU in the 13"... And wow, removal of the magsafe. Good for Apple repair profits, bad for you, me, and everyone else that buys a new MacBook Pro. That magsafe was brilliant. And I think a lot of people will be more than slightly "annoyed" with the lack of ports. Dongles and adaptors just suck. It's certainly possible for Apple to design a nice machine and keep a couple legacy ports at the same time. Makes me wonder if anyone at Apple cares about the end-users at all anymore... But still, it is, overall, not as bleak as I expected I suppose. (Wait, is that the best we can expect from Apple these days? "It's not as bad as it could have been?" Ugh.)
One possible reason is the headphone jack on the Mac is used for more than headphones. For example, I connect a higher quality mike when I webcast training seasons. It's possible Apple couldn't get accessories besides headphones to work well with lightening and thus kept the jack, or decided the need to save space wasn't as compelling on the Mac so rather than go with a dongle left the jack in. Or, Tim may have just decided to screw with or minds...
Yup, a 13 inch with AMD would be a compelling Mac. I might dump my 15" 2-15 MBP for one but new 15" is a bit expensive even as a business buy with the tax deduction. I really wish they had kept the MagSafe as it saved my Mac a few times when I tripped over. The power cord while doing a presentation or teaching. It also means the bunch of chargers I have accumulated' are now worthless if I would upgrade. Maybe we'll see A Kickstarter adapter to turn the USB C into a MagSafe...
But HP offered 3 ports, while Apple offered only 1. That is a major distinction. You could charge your Spectre PC while using it with a Monitor which was NOT possible on the MacBook 12".
True, but I bet the % was much smaller than for the Mac. Credit card readers are the most common ones I see, and they can be adapted to the lightening connector easily with the added benefit that new noses could be chip enabled as well. I just see the market and size advantages as different so the change is not as big a deal on the iPhone than on the Mac.
In my case, I use Bluetooth because I travel a lot and cables are a PIA on planes and trains, the only time I use the jack is my headpone's battery dies on a long flight. So, while I may not represent the average user having to use a dongle is no big deal.
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Apple does sell a lightning to USB-C cable for the same price as their standard iPhone cables. USB-C to Lightning Cable now granted it doesn't ship in the box w/ the phone...
I waited almost a year, scanning macrumors daily, for news on a new Macbook Pro. It was going to form the beating heart of my new pro music studio...
Not any more. Fully specced, the new macbook costs almost $7,000 in Australia for a frankly unexciting upgrade on the internals. I'm so very disappointed in Apple. I don't care about the touch strip, it's useless for what I will be doing.
Instead, I'm buying the new Razer Blade Pro when it lands here in November. It'll still be expensive but at least it'll have DDR4 memory (and 32Gb of it) and a GTX 1080 GPU among many other standout specs, including Thunderbolt 3.
Missed a convert here. Not happening. Shame. I wonder how many others are thinking like me?
Not any more. Fully specced, the new macbook costs almost $7,000 in Australia for a frankly unexciting upgrade on the internals. I'm so very disappointed in Apple. I don't care about the touch strip, it's useless for what I will be doing.
Instead, I'm buying the new Razer Blade Pro when it lands here in November. It'll still be expensive but at least it'll have DDR4 memory (and 32Gb of it) and a GTX 1080 GPU among many other standout specs, including Thunderbolt 3.
Missed a convert here. Not happening. Shame. I wonder how many others are thinking like me?
Precisely. For an approximation with an iPad or iPhone, try scrolling through hundreds of photos with the scrollbar in the Photos app.
I doubt it. People will either stick with touchsreen or nothing. OLED toolbars are too small to be effective.
Apple will not ditch them, but they will probably not become PC common.
As for Haptic Feedback, I do not know how once could get haptic feedback on an LED. Now, that would be a breatkthrough.
They will see an overpriced cable.They will probably also add back the SD card slot after the pro photographers stop buying MacBook Pros. That beautiful and thin enclosure isn't going to look very good with an SD card reader taped to its cover.
Probably they will push bluetooth connections which is wise.
Now, this is probably only niche.
They are pushing bluetooth which is the way to go.
BTW: Lest anything think I am bashing Mac, the Microsoft Surface Studio is a horror.
With the Microsoft Surface Studio (MSS), to even approximate a comparable iMac, one has to spend $1000 more. The opening price of $2999 for the MSS with an i5 ... an i5? ... would get one an almost max'd out iMac with an i7, and better resolution. I believe the MSS as sata SSD, whereas the iMac uses pcie.
This hyper-expensive idiocy is not unique to Mac. Microsoft Surface Pros are way overpriced. To a lesser extent it has affected Dell as well.
HP seems to be fighting the trend, however, while HP is getting up to the sub-premium level at very good prices, HP seems to avoiding the high end quad cores (6700 and 6700K) for the mobile versions (the 6700HQ or 6700T) which are 20% slower, but about half the power consumption and heat.
This is not a bad compromise and I am considering a HP.
I am really bummed out about the MBA. Had they just offered a simple upgrade to even a FHD screen (1920 x 1080 - 170 ppi which is more than sufficient for a 13" laptop) and a Skylake 17, it would be flying off the shelves as we speak. AS WE SPEAK!
Since March '15, the last upgrade of the air, FHD are now common, and much cheaper than they were in March '15. Apple would not have even needed to raise the prices. CPU costs would be almost identical.
RAM is now cheap.
There was no need for what they did to kill the MBA.
And for what they offer with the new entry-level eMBP, $1499 is unbelieveably toxic.
I was considering going into the Mac Ecosystem, but not at those prices.
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State of the IT world in 2016:
Microsoft is reinventing the computer.
Apple is reinventing the F-keys...
:-(
Microsoft is reinventing the computer.
Apple is reinventing the F-keys...
:-(