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I remember those days were I bought the base 15” 2010 and fully maxed it out with 3rd party components for around $2000, while Apple was charging over $3000+ for the same specs.
I got a maxed out 2014 MBP" (the spring spec refresh) for 2500 €. I miss those pre-touch bar prices too.
 


With the MacBook-centric Apple event now set for Monday, October 18, leakers are beginning to share a few new details that we haven't previously heard about the machines.

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According to Dylandkt, the base 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models will feature 16GB RAM and 512GB of storage space, which is in line with the current high-end 13 and 16-inch MacBook Pro options.

As he has said previously, the new MacBook Pro models are also expected to feature an upgraded 1080p webcam, and the M1X chip will have the same configuration in both sizes with 10-core CPU.

Dylandkt claims Apple will provide a new charging brick, which is not a surprise since the upcoming machines are rumored to feature a new MagSafe charging port, which would necessitate new charging hardware.


The MacBook Pro models will feature mini-LED displays and smaller bezels with no bottom logo, which we have heard before, and pricing is expected to be similar between the two different sizes. The pricing gap between the 14 and 16-inch options will be "much more narrow" than the current 13 and 16-inch high-end MacBook Pro options.

Display analyst Ross Young earlier today said that the new MacBook Pro models could feature a 120Hz refresh rate for the mini-LED displays, and Dylandkt claims that 120Hz was "being tested on a Mac prototype" earlier in the year, but that he has "no clue when it's coming."

Full details on the new 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models will be announced next Monday, and until then, we have a roundup of all of the rumors we've heard so far available in our MacBook Pro guide.

Article Link: MacBook Pro Models Said to Start at 16GB RAM and 512GB Storage, Feature Upgraded 1080p Webcams and New Charging Brick

okay, right… only care about one thing: WHEN????!!!!
 
SD is being replaced by CFExpress, most new cameras feature that, provides the bandwidth needed for high fps ...
We will find out Monday ;)
*some* new cameras (all high-end > $2000) use CFExpress, often with a second SD-card slot (Canon R5) or hybrid SD/CFExpress-A like the Sony A7Siii. See https://camerajabber.com/buyersguides/which-cameras-use-cfexpress-cards/. The *vast* majority of cameras (and other devices requiring removable media) will continue to use SDXC for many years to come....

You can still shoot 20fps RAW to the SD-card. On a Canon R5 You get a maximum of 110 shots vs 146 shot with CFExpress-A before it slows down. Not a huge deal for the vast majority of uses. If you're a pro sport or nature photographer - sure, buying a CFExpress-A card (at 4-5 times the price of the same-sized SDXC) is probably worth it.

For video, SDXC is capable of recording 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 video at 120fps with many codecs. I think it will handle 8K video in the Canon R5 too (but only in GOP modes, not intra-frame). Again, pro-codecs (various types of RAW, ProRes etc.) will probably need better than SDXC speeds (maxing out at at nearly 300MB/s), but this is a small group of users.

I would certainly *hope* that Apple adopts a hybrid SDXC/CFExpress-A, but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't for cost reasons. They would be nuts to have *only* CFExpress.
 
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Will they still charge via USB-C? Would hate to carry another brick around just for the magnetic connector -that is available from third parties for USB-C anyways.
 
By features that other computers have had for years?

What other companies have a chip that has both CPU and GPU with this kind of performance on the same package with a total of less than 50-watt TDP while making much less noise than the rest)?

Not to mention "for years" part of your comment! 🧐
 
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Is it reasonable to assume that the max RAM will be 64GB, considering the Intel equivalent MacBook Pro allowed that?
 
And I for one expect to be seriously disappointed six days from now.
Well...I suppose setting low expectations is one way to feel good when it turns out to be better than you expected :)

These are the possible scenarios where I think there are reasonable grounds for disappointment:

1) Using the same underlyting core micro-architecture as the current M1. If the new machines are just "a bigger M1", then I will skip this release. However, there is an expectation that at least some of the improvements found in the A15 would be included in the new SoC.

2) Fewer CPU and GPU cores than expected. It's possible that the new machines will not be scaled out as much as assumed, particularly for the predicted 14" MBP. Maybe it will only 6 performance cores and not 8? Perhaps the GPU increases will be more modest - only 10-12 GPU cores in the 14" and 16-24 in the 16"?

3) None of the rumored new (old!) ports. Yes, I know there were "leaked schematics", but it's not guaranteed that these were for the actual production machines. I personally would find an HDMI output and SD reader (as long as UHS-II at least) to be useful.

4) Limited support for external screens or even (!) still support for a single screen (unlikely, but it might be limited to 2 screens)

5) No improvments to screen technology, i.e. no mini-LED or 120Hz refresh

6) No hardware design changes - same as current generation.

7) No improvments to USB I/O bottlenecks (M1 Macs have about 30% slower USB storage bandwidth to external drives)

8) Uninspiring battery life. Scaling out the SoC cores might reduce battery life significantly over the M1 laptops.

9) Price - more expensive than current models.

Now that I've depressed myself, any of the above that don't come to pass will be great news!
 
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SD is being replaced by CFExpress, most new cameras feature that, provides the bandwidth needed for high fps ...
We will find out Monday ;)
Hmm, there's also SD express. Considering SD Express is backward compatible with SDXC cards, it's probably the format most desirable for consumer adoption.
 
Will they still charge via USB-C? Would hate to carry another brick around just for the magnetic connector -that is available from third parties for USB-C anyways.
If you have to use Apple's own charger/cable, that's more money for Apple...
Guess which way Apple prefer...
 
The new MacBook Pros won’t have:
  • a HDMI port
  • an SD cart slot
  • Ethernet in the charging brick
OK...what is your reasoning for your statement?

I presume you are aware of the multiple rumors that the machined will have new ports, based on an alleged leak of supposedly stolen schematics from one of Apple's Chinese manufacturers?

Of course, we have no idea whether these leaks are fake, or the schematics were some PoC that has no bearing on the actual production machines....but there is a fair bit of anecdotal evidence that some "legacy" (aka "still very commonly used") ports could make a comeback.
 
I can imagine, that the prices will be insane/brutal.
Yup, there will be price increase definitely. Apple is not taking component shortages lightly. Consumers have to pay for it...

It's unfortunate because there are features that some people may not need, but are forced to pay for. Eg. I don't need mini-LED or high refresh rate screens, but I want 16GB RAM standard. Apple only sells M1 Macs with 8GB RAM in my country (no BTO option available).
 
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Prices will be cheaper than existing - existing are overpriced due to Intel chips and cooling systems we both won't need in the new ones. Base prices anyway. Of course if you go for 4 or 8TB and 64GB RAM, you'll end up like today in the 5-6k range. But baseline should be around 2k for both models. Less than the Intel versions.

Potential savings:
- Intel chip, $250 - $400
- Cooling system $30 - $50 (?)
- Smaller battery - $30 - $50 (?)
- Smaller package overall $10
- ??

I wonder if prices for RAM are higher or lower - I think the RAM is part of the chip in the M1X so could potentially be lower but it's also more custom so maybe actually higher.
Not sure about that. I would love it if Apple would charge less for the new models. But the price of the new models will reflect whatever Apple expects users will be willing to pay, and not the actual cost of manufacturing.
 
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It’s about damn time. 8GB/256GB for the base 13” “Pro” has been embarrassing for quite some time now.
im genuinely excited for this release although I’m a bit concerned about how much the BTO’s are going to cost (really want 32GB…)
 
If that's the starting configuration then I would expect the starting prices to increase too.
 
What scares me the most is honestly the prospect that 32GB will be the RAM ceiling. In my line of work the 64GB will be needed. I'm hoping that they offer what the Intel MBPs offered; I think that's logical.
 
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