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Really?

jacobj said:
You're too gentle.....

Actually I am just trying not to offend anyone. :confused:

I mean we have to consider some things. For America there is one keyboard layout. For Europe they have to make at least a dozen different keyboard layouts. They have to make different plugs for the power adaptors etc.

And now after I calmed down a bit :cool:

I think from Apple's point of view I would as well rather deal with a few
upset europeans (I know there are more inhabitants in the EU than in the US)
than with really angry US customers.

I mean think about it, an American Company delivers to a non American country first. :eek: What a scandal. :rolleyes:

Still hoping for early next week... :D
 
ALoveSupreme said:
I mean think about it, an American Company delivers to a non American country first. :eek: What a scandal. :rolleyes:

I mean think about it, an American Company delivers to a non-American country at the same time :eek: ;)
 
ALoveSupreme said:
Yeah you seem to be right, all of the ones that shipped are from the US.
Damn regional preference of apple... We europeans have to wait again.
I wish Apple was a european company. :mad:
Well I am hoping for next week as well, because I ordered a 2.0Ghz. :D

Yup, it sucks, a complete guess this but i would imagine they do production runs per area, i guess there on a US one right now.. hopefully days not weeks before they start churning out some euro ones! :rolleyes:
 
Multimedia said:
One other thing. This quad is fast, but still way too slow for a lot of video compression work. Looking forward to 8 processors next year.

I'm not a video encoding expert but I do have some knowledge here. There isn't a lot of parallel processing you can do with video encoding, so you're only going to really use one processor at a time so it's the horsepower of the single processor at issue. If the encoder is specialized I suppose you could break up regions of the frame for each processor but I don't think the temporal stuff (motion vectors) could be handled that way. I'm skeptical that any encoders will be threaded to take advantage of multiple processors.
 
janstett said:
But not all US orders have shipped. I'm still waiting on my MBP 2.0. And I ordered on Jan. 10. Grrrrr....

Don't think Fed Ex ship on a sunday (im guessing its that sort of time in china now) ill bet you'll be shipped by monday.
 
Custom shipped!

My 2.0 CTO with a 7200 RPM drive has shipped. Ordered 11:10, Jan 10th.

:) :) :)
 
I just got off the phone with apple.

Sorry if this is stupid and has been repeated several times before, but just to confirm. Apple have definatly started shipping the Macbooks, regaurdless of specification starting with those ordered on the 10th - straight after the keynote. The guy also said there was a high probability they would catch up with the orders, but did stress that the orders were being processed in chronological order and not on a basis of custom vs stock options.

faraz
 
robbieduncan said:
My UK order has just shipped. 2.0 CTO with 120Gb drive. Was ordered 10 Jan 6:59 PM GMT.

Get in :D

So now I have to apologise to all and sundry for my rant. I am officially sorry. :eek:
 
1/22

i got an email invoice for my shipping charge, and see both authorizations on my CC. i cannot cancel the order online. i ordered 1/22. yay!
 
Compression and Transcoding Is Multiprocessor - Quad Compresses 2x Faster Than Dual

janstett said:
I'm not a video encoding expert but I do have some knowledge here. There isn't a lot of parallel processing you can do with video encoding, so you're only going to really use one processor at a time so it's the horsepower of the single processor at issue. If the encoder is specialized I suppose you could break up regions of the frame for each processor but I don't think the temporal stuff (motion vectors) could be handled that way. I'm skeptical that any encoders will be threaded to take advantage of multiple processors.
Well I hate to break it to you - not really - but this Quad compresses and transcodes video twice as fast as my Dual 2.5 did - 2x vs. 4x the length of the clips - so you are 100% mistaken about video encoding not being a multiprocessor assignable task.

It is totally a multiprocessor task that is being shared among all four because I am seeing everything happening twice as fast on this Quad as I did on the Dual 2.5 I just sold.
 
320 MHz More For $300 Vs. Higher Maximum RAM Capacity

mvelinder said:
Now the big question... is going up to 2.16Ghz worth my $300?

At this point I'd say no.
Well that's less than 10% of 2 x 2 GHz so there is a premium on the extra 320 MHz. But I think a higher RAM maximum would be far more valuable. Anyone here have any thoughts on the need for a 4 GB ram capacity vs the current 2 GB? I'm starting to think that may be the real mobile power bottleneck now. :confused:
 
Multimedia said:
Well that's less than 10% of 2 x 2 GHz so there is a premium on the extra 320 MHz. But I think a higher RAM maximum would be far more valuable. Anyone here have any thoughts on the need for a 4 GB ram capacity vs the current 2 GB? I'm starting to think that may be the real mobile power bottleneck now. :confused:

The RAM issue is due to limited stick sizes.. when the 2GB sticks are on the market I can see no reason why the current release of the MBP won't be able to go there. 2GB for now is more than enough but when it starts to show its age in 2+ years then the RAM and 7200RPM HDs will give it a little boost.
 
1.67 to 2.0 freebie?

I phoned the Apple Rep this morning, and he said "not". There is a free upgrade from 1.67 to 1.83, and 1.83 to 2.0, but not from 1.67 to 2.0. He said he couldn't make that change, and it just ain't so.
Meanwhile, I wait and wait and wait......
 
iYooper said:
I phoned the Apple Rep this morning, and he said "not". There is a free upgrade from 1.67 to 1.83, and 1.83 to 2.0, but not from 1.67 to 2.0. He said he couldn't make that change, and it just ain't so.
Meanwhile, I wait and wait and wait......

The new 1.83 only has 512MB of RAM and 128MB of VRAM. Apple are in the habit of selling well balanced machines - OK I am lying a little here. Apples history with RAM is not the best.

But other than that, by the time you upgrade the CPU and the RAM the price difference isn't all that much. If on the other hand you ordered the 1.67 and you want to cancel and go for the 2.0GHz then it looks as though the delay may not be as great as people think. Don't not order it for impatience only to regret it when it is delivered to your door.
 
My CTO 2.0 with 120gb drive is on its way too! I ordered about an hour after keynote. Seems like it didnt make the plane though...

"Package received after FedEx cutoff"
 
janstett said:
I'm not a video encoding expert but I do have some knowledge here. There isn't a lot of parallel processing you can do with video encoding, so you're only going to really use one processor at a time so it's the horsepower of the single processor at issue. If the encoder is specialized I suppose you could break up regions of the frame for each processor but I don't think the temporal stuff (motion vectors) could be handled that way. I'm skeptical that any encoders will be threaded to take advantage of multiple processors.

I know Multimedia already answered this but you are dead wrong. Anything that has to do a bunch of math crunching will benefit from being multi-threaded. In the case of video encoding, most pros do 2 pass encodes, so the scanning of the video file before encoding could easily be multi-threaded. Also, it may be more of a situation where multiple processors are actually handed whole frames to crunch on, where you have 2 frames being crunched with a dual and 4 on a quad. 3D rendering benefits heavily from multi-CPU systems.

-mark
 
RichP said:
My CTO 2.0 with 120gb drive is on its way too! I ordered about an hour after keynote. Seems like it didnt make the plane though...

"Package received after FedEx cutoff"

damnit, i ordered at 11:12! gah, i wonder what's wrong with my book... :(
 
I'm in the club

Original Ship Date: Feb 15th,
Then changed to: Feb 28th,
Actual Ship Date: Feb 18th
 

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The Senator said:
yo what up, this my first post

I ordered my macbook pro last night, when do you think i'll get it?

i'd say you're in the 4th or maybe 5th batch... so like 4 weeks or so? they're pretty backed up on orders right now due to the ship date pushbacks and all.
 
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