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I have a miniDisplay Cinema Display too, with a Satechi adapter I'm using for my 2018 MBA. Really really really hope this setup works with my new 16" MBP. I love this monitor.
Yes, great monitors. Perhaps expensive, but if I look around at the other desks, the non-cinema have been replaced perhaps two times. Granted perhaps not all the bells and whistles, but even now, 10 years later, still gets the job done for most of us. Well constructed, premium materials both internally and externally.

I would be willing to invest again in Apple displays given the total ownership cost compared to the Dells and Samsungs that have failed us.
 
The value of the HDMI port is that I can roll in to any conference room or lecture theatre and plug in my laptop to start a presentation. Those rooms often have a presentation system locked in a box with only an HDMI cable hanging out. So a mini port or whatever is not useful here. Remember that this laptop is for professionals who frequently need to present material.

You should be using one of the thunderbolt bolts to hook up your every day display. The HDMI port is not for that purpose, it's to hook up a low priority display which is why the 2.0 vs 2.1 port is not important either.
Well experiences are different for everyone. As I have noted elsewhere, for at least 5 years I have never been in a meeting room with only 1 option to connect. In fact I was had to give a presentation last week, and still had the option of VGA....Not to mention every other option under the sun.

I would argue, if Apple was going to go legacy as it did with the HDMI, a USB-A might have been a better option as I still encounter a lot of people who have only a USB-A thumb drive. As a result, it becomes an issue of emailing, SharePoint, etc.
 
Why has Apple not sent legal notice to iJustine? Clearly, she’s using the i- for commercial benefit. They’ve gone after a lot less. Very surprising.
 
Yeah while they was at it why not add usb a for many devices if they wanna go old school also add Ethernet, apples design team messed up on this one, also the i9 5600m was powerful and compact
Mobile i9 was way too hot, along with i7.

You know, my 2009 Mac Pro (with 2012 CPUs) handles video meetings + work better than the 2019 MBP my employer gave me, just cause the MBP thermal throttles so hard and visibly lags. The benchmarks don't pay much attention to that since they're short bursts of work. It's a serious problem.
 
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Apple Silicon’s biggest advantage is memory bandwidth. Look to real (e.g. FPS and export times) rather than benchmark scores to see its impact.
I have to say power efficiency might be the biggest advantage of the Apple silicon, in a laptop. But from a performance perspective, from what I can infer from Anandtech and others, what you say seems to be the case (with analogous fast SSD, though real world it seems unlikely that most of us will notice this much esp in the 32- and 64-gig ram models).

Given that memory bandwidth is the main event here, performance-wise, it seems that the Max's doubled bandwidth of the Pro should be pretty significant. Do you, or anyone, please, have thoughts on whether that will be something that will be noticeable in daily use? Where would that improvement truly demonstrate itself?
 
Touch Bar was great. Pseudotech-mafia “journalists” killed it.
It was nice tech, it was just super difficult to integrate with a workflow. You had to take your eyes off what you were really doing because the damned thing changed all the time. PLUS it took away tried-and-true function keys that don't change and perfectly integrate with any keyboard-based workflow.
 
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I meant a link to the throttling... not to boost mode.
I don't understand -- by definition, if there is a "boost mode" doesn't that mean there is throttling? Something runs at 100% or is prevented from doing so, no?
 
After watching Dave2D's review, I'm now wondering if I should cancel my 14" order and instead wait for last year's 13" M1 MBP to come up as a refurb and go that way. The single core performance is practically a wash, the GPU isn't going to help that much (for photo editing in Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop) and the battery life is much worse.

And I don't think the notch would add much to quality of life. Hmmm.
It's a tricky one.

I was planning to replace my 2020 Intel MBA with the 14"er, but now I'm not so sure. I don't really need to swap battery life for more GPU cores so I'm thinking either to get the 13" (which is a hard sell to my brain, as it feels like buying something that's already out of date) or wait until next year's MBA refresh.

I'm still undecided. I'll wait until the local Apple store is flush with the new MBPs to play with then decide. I'll probably end up waiting for the new MBA. The only issue with mine is that it runs hot, noisy and slow when on Webex or watching full-screen videos in Firefox. I can live with it for the time being.
 
Figured this would be the case.

And that’s only a 100W 3080 (assuming either a 80+20 boost or a 90+15 boost), which is found in thin and lights like the Razer Blade 14”. There are 150-180w’s on offer in larger units like the Legion 5/7. Ampere performance is heavily power constrained.
Reading the Anandtech review today, it seems that the GPU does super well in productivity, but gaming lags behind significantly. It's like a 3080 desktop in video editing, but a 3060 in gaming — not that macOS is particularly good for gaming...

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Digging deeper, there are a couple of factors in play here. First and foremost, the M1 Max in particular is CPU limited at 1080p; the x86-to-Arm translation via Rosetta is not free, and even though Apple’s CPU cores are quite powerful, they’re hitting CPU limitations here. We have to go to 4K just to help the M1 Max fully stretch its legs. Even then the 16-inch MacBook Pro is well off the 6800M. Though we’re definitely GPU-bound at this point, as reported by both the game itself, and demonstrated by the 2x performance scaling from the M1 Pro to the M1 Max.
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What we find is that both Macs perform well in this benchmark – a score near 1000 would match a high-end, RTX 3080-equipped desktop – and from what I’ve seen from third party data, this is well, well ahead of the 2019 Intel CPU + AMD GPU 16-inch MacBook Pro.
 
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Well experiences are different for everyone. As I have noted elsewhere, for at least 5 years I have never been in a meeting room with only 1 option to connect. In fact I was had to give a presentation last week, and still had the option of VGA....Not to mention every other option under the sun.

I would argue, if Apple was going to go legacy as it did with the HDMI, a USB-A might have been a better option as I still encounter a lot of people who have only a USB-A thumb drive. As a result, it becomes an issue of emailing, SharePoint, etc.

Thumb drives are easy to replace. I just replaced the one I keep in my laptop bag. I got 128GB with both USB-C and USB-A built in, while still far smaller than my old USB-A only, for about $25.
 
I don't understand -- by definition, if there is a "boost mode" doesn't that mean there is throttling? Something runs at 100% or is prevented from doing so, no?
No. Throttling and Overclocking have to do with the advertised clocks/speeds the chips are designed to run at.
 
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Why has Apple not sent legal notice to iJustine? Clearly, she’s using the i- for commercial benefit. They’ve gone after a lot less. Very surprising.
Because they haven't trademarked iJustine, perhaps?

Do you know how these laws work?

Apple don't have carte-blanche use of the "i" - only specific usages. In addition if they feel a name is close to one of theirs they can attempt to sue.

But iJustine isn't even close.
 
I don't understand -- by definition, if there is a "boost mode" doesn't that mean there is throttling? Something runs at 100% or is prevented from doing so, no?
No, not necessarily. But I understand your confusion.

You can run "boost" on a car with a turbo... But that doesn't mean the stock basic model is throttling. Its running at its most optimum performance by design. "boosting" anything above the intended design comes at a compromise/cost.

In this case, power efficiency and heat.

When running anything higher and longer (even humans) at full speed its going to get hot and tired, it will need to cool down.
 
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The previous MBPs with the tapered edges had real problems with battery life and overheating. The tapers reduced the space inside to fit the batteries and to give them room for the venting needed to keep things cool. This generation was redesigned to not sacrifice functionality just to look a little skinnier. These are powerful machines meant to do work.

Besides, if you actually look at them I think you’ll start to see that design and elegance is still there it’s just not the end all be all of these Macs. I do reccomend that you go to an Apple store and see for yourself. It’s hard to get a real feel for how these look and work just from small photos and videos.
Yep, I did try to articulate that in my post. These machines have what they need to to run at max efficiency, and I am EXTREMELY happy about that. I wish we'd gotten these 7 years ago. Now, I don't need them (my iPads do everything I need).

However, they do seem a bit less elegant to me than my 2011 17" and 15" hi-res cMBPs. I concede, this is a matter of taste and I do look forward to seeing them in person.
 
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It's a tricky one.

I was planning to replace my 2020 Intel MBA with the 14"er, but now I'm not so sure. I don't really need to swap battery life for more GPU cores so I'm thinking either to get the 13" (which is a hard sell to my brain, as it feels like buying something that's already out of date) or wait until next year's MBA refresh.

I'm still undecided. I'll wait until the local Apple store is flush with the new MBPs to play with then decide. I'll probably end up waiting for the new MBA. The only issue with mine is that it runs hot, noisy and slow when on Webex or watching full-screen videos in Firefox. I can live with it for the time being.
well, my 14" shipped today (out of Shanghai) so I guess I'll be trying out the new one next week and we'll see if it's worth the extra $ over the 13".
 
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well, my 14" shipped today (out of Shanghai) so I guess I'll be trying out the new one next week and we'll see if it's worth the extra $ over the 13".
My initial impression is that it doesn't feel much larger than the 13" Pro, even though it is a bit heavier. It doesn't have the taper, but looks good in person. Had Apple released this design in 2016, even with the Intel processors, it would have been well received.
 
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Because they haven't trademarked iJustine, perhaps?

Do you know how these laws work?

Apple don't have carte-blanche use of the "i" - only specific usages. In addition if they feel a name is close to one of theirs they can attempt to sue.

But iJustine isn't even close.

I wish I could tell that to the people they went after. Pear comes to mind. Something else was there, I am missing, I think. Message sent is rather clear - you can use names similar to ours or the ones we use only if you want to promote our products. Everyone else is a competition (Pear) and must be sued into oblivion.
 
I just received my 16" MBP/M1 Pro with standard 1TB configuration and also have the 2019 16" MBP with me. They are VERY close in size. The new one feels about the same weight and very sturdy. Man, this new one has huge slots everywhere - the back and sides...I'm worried they are just gonna collected lbs of dust!

Startup was fast and took just a few minutes to get in.

The performance is fast...But then again, whenever I get a new machine, it always seems fast, but it's fast! Websites load really fast. Did I mention it's fast? :)

Keyboard seems ok, but nothing better than my work Thinkpad X1 which has an excellent (and better keyboard).

Display seems fine...I can't really notice anything different.

Sound seems more "tin like", but good. I swear my previous MBP has more bass.

Camera is definitely a major improvement. Wow can I see detail now. It's really good.

The finger reader key is much improved.

The bottom of the case now has, for the first time ever, four round pads around the each edge, but they aren't very sticky unfortunately. My MBP's slide off everything daily, so I'm not sure these are gonna make much differerence. Great idea, poor execution possibly. I'll have to see if they do anything.

So far the biggest take-aways for me are the speed and the camera. Camera is stellar. I wish the keys had more height.

There you have it.
 
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Glad performance comparisons are coming out. Gives me solace that my M1 MBA will be just fine and adequate for the foreseeable future.

I may WANT the new MBP M1 Pro, but there is not need whatsoever.

It more than performs for my needs PLUS it's still plenty quicker than the Intel based MBP it replaced. Maybe next year when they come out with the new MBA M2 2022 o_O


 
Glad performance comparisons are coming out. Gives me solace that my M1 MBA will be just fine and adequate for the foreseeable future.

I may WANT the new MBP M1 Pro, but there is not need whatsoever.

It more than performs for my needs PLUS it's still plenty quicker than the Intel based MBP it replaced. Maybe next year when they come out with the new MBA M2 2022 o_O
The single core score at Six Colors is an anomaly, as it should be identical to the M1. The M1 Pro/Max are only faster in multi-core and GPU performance.
 
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its mostly about responsetimegate at this point anyway. Im interested to see if there are cooling differences when configured with pro vs max in both the 14 and 16 configs
 
I already forgot the notch exists after using the new machine today. It is such a non issue
I'd agree with you until I saw a video of someone using iStats and the menu bar was so long that menu options were hidden behind the notch and couldn't be seen. Probably a bug that will be fixed soon but there are cases of issues out there.
 
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