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MacBook Pro Reviews: Fast Performance, Added Ports, and ProMotion Displays Check All the Boxes
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After watching Dave2D's review, I'm now wondering if I should cancel my 14" order and instead wait for last year's 13" M1 MBP to come up as a refurb and go that way. The single core performance is practically a wash, the GPU isn't going to help that much (for photo editing in Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop) and the battery life is much worse.
And I don't think the notch would add much to quality of life. Hmmm.
Well as I recall (and thus don't take it as fact) for Xcode devs your compiling of files is multi-threaded... after that the linking and rest of the build flow is basically single core (likely not 100%, but a much of what goes on does need to be sequential unless things have changed)...
Probably because it is a big chip, and that means each block sits in a location with different process variability than one next to it. It makes it harder to run at a top frequency, as everyone needs to talk to each other DESPITE the larger range of process speeds / voltage drops / temperatures.
Don't speak too soon, benchmarks don't reveal everything. The ridiculously fast memory bandwidth on these new SOCs might actually turn out to be a huge boost when it comes to performance in DAWs.
On the other hand, if you're using a Mac Pro because you need PCIe cards for Pro Tools etc, then replacing it with a laptop wasn't really a non-trivial proposition to start off with.
You should look at more than one result:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=macbookpro18%2C
Remember, for Geekbench only count the highest scores. Lower scores are due to some other process running in the background.
Best single score is 1785
Best 10-core multi score 12833
Best 8-core multi score 9948
No surprises here.
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Hopefully, though Im used to spreading things out over as many data busses as possible.
Sure, that's a solid point. But... when it comes to the lowest base model 14" MacBook Pro (8c CPU, 14c GPU, 16/512) versus the 13" M1 MacBook Pro, it's not so simple. If you were planning to boost the M1 MacBook Pro up to the same amount of RAM and storage as you get by default with the cheapest 14" MacBook Pro, the prices get a lot closer to each other. At that point, it's not just about the extra performance and having to justify if you need it or not. Because for only a couple hundred bucks extra, you're getting a display that's up there with the best in the world (if not _the_ best) available on any laptop, a much better webcam, better speakers, more ports etc etc.
So for some people who technically would be more than fine with a 13" M1 Pro, there are other reasons aside from performance and whether you're "pro" enough to consider choosing the base 14" Pro instead.
I'm going to wait to get more performance reports before I start running around with my hair on fire ?
Or less if your cursor is already on the right This seems like a nothing burger as far as extra effort goes.
Definitely checkout iJustine's review for the most in-depth technical analysis of the new MBPs. None of this Geekbench nonsense either.
I don't think the problem is that no one can see any possible usefulness of the Touch Bar at all. It's just that, as it turns out, it never became mission-critical or enough of a must-have to enough people for them to justify sticking with it.
Besides, when it comes to having a dynamic customisable panel that adapts to different apps and so on, there's a way better way to do it anyway. Just look at what Apple have already done with Logic Pro. Any moderately recent iPad can be paired up to Logic using an official (well supported and regularly updated) app, which turns it into an extremely competent and useful companion to the traditional mouse pointer GUI on the Mac itself. It offers loads and loads of (customisable) functions, all of which dynamically respond to what you're working on to display useful parameters you can access via touch.
Sure you could argue that this is just gouging customers to buy even more Apple gear, when they already had some touch input built-in to a laptop. But that's not really valid or fair in my opinion. Even with an iPad Mini, it's a way bigger and better touch panel allowing for far more tactile input methods and sophisticated functions than a tiny Touch Bar could ever have done. And it's not like this kind of thing _requires_ an expensive high-end iPad to work. Even the very cheapest basic iPad is more than adequate, which you can pick up even cheaper second hand. I think it even works with iPhones, which many people already have. Not only all of this, but it also means that all these touch gestures and workflow enhancements you learn/develop will apply to _any_ Mac you use. Not just a MacBook that happens to have a Touch Bar. Which incidentally I think is part of the reason why 3rd party devs never really embraced it fully. Why go to the effort or bringing all kinds of sleek features to the Touch Bar when it only means that your pro users will get annoyed they can never use them when working on their Mac Pro or iMac?
With the Touch Bar now gone, and with Apple already having demonstrated the direction the OS is heading with more and more side-to-side integration between Apple devices, there'll be even more incentive for other apps (such as the ones you use) to embrace this and create companion touch interface apps to offer enhanced workflows using a secondary device just as Logic Pro already does. So if you liked what the Touch Bar let you do, there's no reason why this wouldn't actually be better.
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Imagine their poor wives or girlfriends putting on 3 pounds after thanksgiving......A whole 2mm thicker is "HUGE"? Well, I can only guess that means your arms are pretty THIN if you can't handle that very slight size/weight increase
P.S. There's plenty of smaller lighter options for apple laptops if the 16" model is too much for you to handle.
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I see that the hardware has lost a bit of elegance when closed, which explains why Apple has used low angles to photograph the machine.
I miss the tapered edges on the lid and the bottom chassis, so I wonder if that was for design or Apple putting function over form (finally!).
That said, I like the "throwback" last white MacBook/original unibody design and I find the notch to be iconic (even if I still hate it). I like that it sits higher off the resting surface (I used to put silicone bubble feet on my 17" for cooling),
In all, if the iPad was not what it is and can do for me, I'd blown $3,800 on this iMac replacement.
I miss the tapered edges on the lid and the bottom chassis, so I wonder if that was for design or Apple putting function over form (finally!).
That said, I like the "throwback" last white MacBook/original unibody design and I find the notch to be iconic (even if I still hate it). I like that it sits higher off the resting surface (I used to put silicone bubble feet on my 17" for cooling),
In all, if the iPad was not what it is and can do for me, I'd blown $3,800 on this iMac replacement.
So TRUE!!! This guy probably tells his daughter she's 'fat' after she gains 2 pounds over over the summer.
The thing is, there's only so much you can do with a rectangle that has a screen and keyboard attached. So whatever the style was before, they have to change it. And frankly, there's not a lot of options when you're trying to change a rectangle: Smooth the edges one year, make them more sharp the next ....
I mean, they could make it like a toilet bowl shape like the original iBook, but I'm not sure people would like that either.
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The previous MBPs with the tapered edges had real problems with battery life and overheating. The tapers reduced the space inside to fit the batteries and to give them room for the venting needed to keep things cool. This generation was redesigned to not sacrifice functionality just to look a little skinnier. These are powerful machines meant to do work.
Besides, if you actually look at them I think you’ll start to see that design and elegance is still there it’s just not the end all be all of these Macs. I do reccomend that you go to an Apple store and see for yourself. It’s hard to get a real feel for how these look and work just from small photos and videos.
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I use a ton of orchestral vsts and similar things, and while I'm hopeful, I won't hold my breath. Not to mention that a lot of software is still not available on Apple silicon. But yeah, we will probably see a new mac pro with apple silicon next year, and it's probably going to be available with 20 cores/40 cores, which is more than enough.
Have you seen iJustine's video on the new MBPs? If not then don't discount her technical expertise until you've witnessed it. In the first seven minutes she leaves every other review I've seen to irrelevance.I still can't tell whether or not you're serious...
WOW…
iJustine should offer you some sort of reward if she knows how you love her review.