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MacBook Pro Speed Bump

Don't come complaining in August

Just so you same obsoletous don't come complaining in August about your MBP now, Intel is releasing the merom chip late july early august for MBP.

I don't understand, if you read macrumors and have followed Apple for the past 2-3 years, you should have known about this I've been waiting since March for this.

Here is a rule of thumb: Never buy 1st Generation anything!
I learned this back in 1994 when the 7100/66 ppc came out. Within a month they came out with the 7100/88, 8100 and 9500

Anyway apple will be making silent small modifications to MBP for the next month or so without announcing it. MBPa, MBPb, MBPc...
If you don't like your decision, go get a gateway! then you'll have something to complain about.
 
mkrishnan said:
Expand (span). The external screen can have resolution up to 1920x1200, while the internal shows a separate 1280x800 image.

It's on the specs page. Don't need a hack anymore. Also, Apple officially supports clamshell mode (having the MacBook closed and still on), which was not supported on the iBooks.
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Cool, but how would you use the keyboard? USB attached to macbook?

Wondering if it's strong enough for final cut??? Or does this need ATI cards?


If not, then why pay the extra $1000 for the GPU? :rolleyes:
 
bbrosemer said:
The 15'' MBP is pretty much obselete right now and I could not see anyone paying the money for that computer.
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Oh, for the love of God:

1. It has a 15" Screen

2. It has dedicated graphics with 256MB of dedicated memory. This makes an enormous difference

3. It has dual link and can drive bigger displays in more modes.

4. Express/34 slot

5. Higher resolution

6. Backlit keyboard

etc, etc, etc

Obsolete? Yeah, you know what you're talking about.
 
fowler. said:
I'm sure it's been posted already, but if you've purchased a MacBook Pro or whatever in the past 10 days, you're entitled to a refund of the difference.

I purchased mine 13 days ago and have a refund waiting for me on my credit card.
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Does this also apply to Refurbs? And is it date shipped or date received?

(I'm perfectly sassified with my MBP and the price I paid for it, but free 100 dollars? of course!)
 
Does this speed bump count as "Rev. B"?

One other question: Does the speed bump on the 15" model constitute a new revision or is it still considered a "Rev. A"?
 
stop the whining

Just got a new MBP 15"
No whine, and the heat is not that bad either. Only above the keys it gets warm really.
And yes, just 1.83 Ghz. But I don't think your really notice that 170 Mhz unless you render your ass off.
 
neutrino23 said:
I spent quite a bit of time with the 17" MBP at the Apple store yesterday and didn't notice any glare or reflections.
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I was there today. The glare was there. And it was terrible. I couldn't read a thing - next to the non-glare 15" MacBook Pro, it was a joke.

Nonetheless - if you're not outside or near a window, the glossy screens are undeniably better. Some people like them for airplanes as well, as the person sitting next to you can't see what you're doing (on the other hand, if you want the person next to you to see what you're doing...opt for the matte screen)
 
I'm curious whether these MBP's with the speed bump will be old stock. For example, if I bought a 2.16 today, would it be an old machine?

If it is newly manufactured, Apple may have addressed the thermal paste issue.
 
BWhaler said:
Oh, for the love of God:

1. It has a 15" Screen

2. It has dedicated graphics with 256MB of dedicated memory. This makes an enormous difference

3. It has dual link and can drive bigger displays in more modes.

4. Express/34 slot

5. Higher resolution

6. Backlit keyboard

etc, etc, etc

Obsolete? Yeah, you know what you're talking about.
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Plus, it's just built better. I loved my iBook G4 - taking it with me everywhere was easy, as it was light and the plastic was durable. But the aluminum of the MacBook Pro is vastly superior - they keyboard is a delight to use, and every time I return to my iBook it just feels cheap.
 
macbookAPRIL1 said:
So here I am, along with many others, in the situation where I have bought my 1.83 MBP and am getting a bit of a buzz kill with price drops and the new lineup etc. My question is what can I do about this ??? Is there a way to upgrade my MBP to a 2.0 or 2.16 ??? I don't want to post a complaint but I feel like Apple owes some of their customers who paid huge premiums for their MBP. Anyone else in this boat???
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Christ, perhaps you'd feel better if Apple just sat on the technology for a year or so before upgrading just to keep people like you happy. And if you place an order 2 or 3 months before Apple plans to launch upgraded machines, perhaps the salespeople should warn you not to buy yet.

Is this what you would do if you owned a business? Call all of your customers from the last couple months and encourage them to return their computers so you could replace them with a faster one and eat the cost of the used model they returned? Is that exactly how you'd run your business? Into the ground?

Even though you'd never even notice a performance difference between 1.86 and 2.0 GHz, you feel slighted because you "lost money". Welcome to the world of technology. This Intel platform change is new to all of us. And with a whole slew of Apple models in line for the change over the coming months, one should expect to see mild speed bumps and model tweaks along the way.

Caveat Emptor.
 
retroz311 said:
Cool, but how would you use the keyboard? USB attached to macbook?

Wondering if it's strong enough for final cut??? Or does this need ATI cards?
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With respect to the keyboard... in the screen spanning mode (use both screens), the computer is of course open, and you can use the internal keyboard. In the clamshell (use only external screen) mode, you must use either an external keyboard and mouse (USB or Bluetooth).

Heh...somehow I think that graphics intensive stuff like that will not be pretty on this. But who knows? Aperture apparently is not unusable on the GMA950 Mac Minis. And this should be somewhat faster than them.
 
mkrishnan said:
With respect to the keyboard... in the screen spanning mode (use both screens), the computer is of course open, and you can use the internal keyboard. In the clamshell (use only external screen) mode, you must use either an external keyboard and mouse (USB or Bluetooth).

Heh...somehow I think that graphics intensive stuff like that will not be pretty on this. But who knows? Aperture apparently is not unusable on the GMA950 Mac Minis. And this should be somewhat faster than them.
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Just realized something, if GMA is BAD for 3d, then Motion, Titles, and Swift 3D is out - -I suppose you have to pay the $1000 for a $30 GPU, aluminum and larger LCD. :)
 
dpaanlka said:
LOL its funny that Apple put that split "demonstration" of how the glossy compares to matte... because thats how a glossy LCD looks in real life, all kinds of glare and shadows and crazy reflections!
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Funny, I thought it was a representation of the glossy for that reason.
 
amac4me said:
I have to commend Apple for another round bumps with no charge. I do however feel for those who have already purchased MacBook Pros.
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And you just KNOW that Apple knew that they would offer more on the Pro line the moment the low tier came out. Of course, you gotta hold back on stuff to keep people buying when you can add it in.
 
badlydrawnboy said:
haven't heard of this
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all the HP's have them, it looks really nice, although i think youre prone ot more glare, but it makes your comp. look that much better, i kinda wish i had one on my MBP, i wonder if i can get them to install one on mine?
 
pincho said:
dedicated video + ...)
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They both have a dedicated video processor. The difference is if the video RAM is shared or not. If it's shared then both the video processor AND the CPU have to go over the same buss to access RAM. Video processor need to access RAM a lot and repetivily so there is some contention for the bus. Off setting this is the Core Dual's very large L2 cache which should keep the CPU(s) from needing to get to RAM.

System RAM also is slower than typical video RAM and there is less of it. So I'd expect the Macboks to preform video related takes like 3D games slower then a MBP but other takese
like video trans coding and applying a Photoshop filter would be the same
 
dibble9012 said:
Just talked to apple, supposedly the 15 inchers have right click support now too!
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what?


also, is it still possible to upgrade the MBP yourself from 2.ghz to 2.14, i though i read somewhere that you could by replacing the chip or something
 
astral said:
Does this also apply to Refurbs? And is it date shipped or date received?

(I'm perfectly sassified with my MBP and the price I paid for it, but free 100 dollars? of course!)
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it does, as mine is a refurb.
 
bordenkecher said:
also, is it still possible to upgrade the MBP yourself from 2.ghz to 2.14, i though i read somewhere that you could by replacing the chip or something
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This was on the Minis, since they're socketed (and could theoretically be upgraded to Merom). The MBP's are soldered, hence you cannot. I wonder about the MB's, though ....

Anyway, this is why I wish Apple offered upgrades, since it's just a simple chip switch, even to Merom.
 
mozmac said:
2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button.....

Apple...when are you going to put a second mouse button on your laptops? You're shipping Mighty Mouse with computers, why not put something like that on the trackpad? If you are going to promote that you can run Windows natively, you can keep your stubborn, head-up-your-anus philosophy and not include a second mouse button.

One of our main clients was ready to switch everything over to MacBook Pros last month. They bought one to test it out and one of their biggest compaints was the lack of a second mouse button. They've decided to hold of and stick with ThinkPads. I don't know when they will give Apple another try now.
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I would advise them to stick with PC laptops. If they are using windows only then they dont need a macbook. And I don't want a 2nd mouse button on my laptop!

How about we just put 6 mouse buttons on these?
 
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