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MacBook Pro Speed Bump

amac4me said:
I have to commend Apple for another round bumps with no charge. I do however feel for those who have already purchased MacBook Pros.
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Not me. Those who chose to be early adopters knew the risks for being impatient. You can't buy the first round of computers, and then complain later that the latest machines are faster/better. There are always going to be faster/better machines AND disappointed people who can't wait.

With Apple's new product line, you can expect faster updates; so people better get used to it. Imagine what the complete product line is going to look like a year from now, when we are in 3rd or even 4th revision! All currently selling machines are going to seem like "old technology". I suppose that's Apple's plan to increase revenues. People are going to buy more often; and that means ebay is going to need a special section for all of the used Apple computers that's going to be flooding the market. I just finished reading a post from a guy who's thinking about selling his 3 week old MBP to buy one of the new MacBooks!
 
mozmac said:
I know Apple has come up with "creative" ways of right-clicking. However, when you have a 55 year old millionaire who has finally learned how to use PowerPoint and Outlook, switching to a new computer is scary enough, without having to be told, "Okay, to right-click, you hold both fingers down and then click." Why does Apple insist on spending precious R&D money coming up with new ways of right clicking? How about putting a right mouse button and there and then everyone knows how to do it and you can go on to invent something else cool?

Thanks for pointing out the double-finger right-click, but, it's not acceptible for Apple to think that it's a replacement for a right mouse button.
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true, very true, but I am getting used to it after couple of month, weird; But I still insist they shouldn't come up with this at the first place. What a waste anyway. Instead, they should lower the price just because they're forcing us to use it. Same thing as tv ads, comcast should pay me to watch ads everyday, such a crime and time wasted. LOL
 
got my MBP (1.8) yesterday. paid 2099 CDN with the education discount. today i phoned in, told them i felt a bit slighted at the price drop being announced today, and they refunded me TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS CANADIAN. pretty decent trade-off, as .17 mhz isn't exactly going to make me lose sleep.

edit: just hung up the phone (first post while on hold)... $230 CDN is what they are refunding my credit card. and i asked if there were any other REVISIONS made, and the apple store rep informed me that it was STRICTLY a speed bump and a price drop, no other revisions (ie; mobo, etc...) [phewf]
 
originalknappst said:
I'd like to know this too. .. is this Rev. B?
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Since nothing has changed besides the speed and the (optional) screen, I would say no. Usually new "revisions" have a faster bus, faster RAM, new ports, etc. Those things point to motherboard revisions. This isn't anything like that. Unless, of course, Apple has been doing silent revisions all along to address the 15" MBP problems. In that case, who knows what revision we are up to.
 
retroz311 said:
Just realized something, if GMA is BAD for 3d, then Motion, Titles, and Swift 3D is out - -I suppose you have to pay the $1000 for a $30 GPU, aluminum and larger LCD. :)
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Yeah... I think if that's your usage profile, the MBP 17" would be a really good investment.
 
dbassett said:
Just so you same obsoletous don't come complaining in August about your MBP now, Intel is releasing the merom chip late july early august for MBP.
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guys, what do you all think? will apple use merom july/august directly or will we have wait some weeks/months longer cause of e.g. mainboard modification? :rolleyes:
 
Eniregnat said:
A glossy screen can be so distracting. It seems crisper, but why would I increase glare.
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Yeah, what's so good about glossy? It makes the colors look super bright and vivid in the dark, yes?
 
Kingsly said:
hmmm... sent it in to get the logic board looked at (heat and whine issues) hopefully they'll just drop in a new one w/ the 2.0! :D

Is that even within the realm of possibility?
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Yes, it is, if they are out of stock on the matching replacement part. It's happened to me before.
 
originalknappst said:
I'd like to know this too. .. is this Rev. B?
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A lot of that "rev" stuff is just something that people make up anyway. The ordering part numbers are still the same, so they're not treating these as separate products.

There have already been revisions to the boards inside, so take "rev" to mean whatever you like.
 
iMeowbot said:
A lot of that "rev" stuff is just something that people make up anyway. The ordering part numbers are still the same, so they're not treating these as separate products.

There have already been revisions to the boards inside, so take "rev" to mean whatever you like.
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That's true. There are many models which don't quite fit the "Rev" definition (just see EveryMac), but it does constitute a change in the list.
 
yay for the new macbook! Too bad getting a black one means paying a premium. I was wrong in my predictions for specs--those who said the thing would be a Mac Mini with a screen were closer to the truth.
 
amac4me said:
I have to commend Apple for another round bumps with no charge. I do however feel for those who have already purchased MacBook Pros.
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I have spent over three months playing with my machine. The extra .16 GHz is not a huge difference. I go on vacation in 7 days, could not be doing that without my MBP as I want to take tons of pictures. Those of us that did not wait had tons of fun with our machines. Minor speed and price changes, nothing warranting crying.
 
gunm said:
yay for the new macbook! Too bad getting a black one means paying a premium. I was wrong in my predictions for specs--those who said the thing would be a Mac Mini with a screen were closer to the truth.
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Not really, all the laptops are much faster, except for GMA 950.

I actually like the black "premium"... it's a tribute to the 12" PB users.

ender78, you are right, this is such a trivial update it's hardly worth mentioning.
 
BlackLilyNinja said:
my 2.0 was more expensive yes. I bet Kevin Rose is kicking himself though. The Black one is nice. I would have bought that had it been available 2 months ago. Oh well... at least the only thing really upgraded was the processor. The HDD and video remains the same. And when the warranty runs out i will just get a new processor and install it myself. Hooray for intel (yes i fix macs so it would not be hard for me).
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MBP Processors can't be upgraded because they are soldered. :cool:
 
Multi-Button units can be useful even for 22+ year Mac Users

dpaanlka said:
I think Apple has done more than their share of implementing a right click into Mac OS. Remember, back in the day, there wasnt even anything to right click on.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe some people who have been using Macs for years don't want a right click button? I'm talking about as far back as the System 6 and 7 days. On my Mighty Mouse, right clicking is disabled, and I am glad to see that it is disabled by default. Although getting Windows converts is a priority, long time Mac users are still more important. It has always been an Apple tradition to not have a right click button. So stop complaining about how much you wish Macs were like PCs (so you would be as comfortable as possible) and take four minutes out of your life practicing how to right click with two fingers on the trackpad, or by holding down control, and learn to appreciate elegance (and 23 year tradition) of having only one mouse button.
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I've used a muti-button Kesington trackball for years. My current one is a 4-button Expert Mouse with a scroll ring. The 4 general things that I have set up is: click, click and hold, right click, & menu of running programs for fast switching. I've had a Mac since one of the first Mac 128's, just a little before System 6 or 7 as you say.

The whole point to me is that each of us can & should be able to make up our own mind & use whatever it is to help us use our Mac in a way that makes better use to us. To you that menas KeepItSimpleStupid. For others it means use the keyboard only, others some combination with many of those others using a multi-button mouse or track-ball.

Because I use a 4-button track ball does that make me right & you wrong. Or does your using a 1-button Mac mouse right & me wrong. To me the answer to both is the same. Neither is wrong because we are Mac User's & we think different. That also means that we are more apt to think different than each other than Windows Users are. They must right click to do many thngs. We have a choice. We can do it whichever way we like. I change the way I operate my Mac depending on the time of day, program I'm running, how I feel at the time, or just to see if I can do it a different way.

Just because we use a computer doesn't mean everything has to be the same. Even for ourselves. Try it you may like it. At least you'll be learning to do thingsdiferently & maybe you'll find one that yu like better than what you do now. Maybe even one or two may involve some action that you thought was a no-good useless action.

Bill the TaxMan
 
I'm incredibly pumped. 2.0ghz? YES my friends YES! :p :p :p
Man, I cannot wait until the 30th of this month when I can pick up my mbp! This has made my day go from bad to excellent :p :p.! :p Though I'm disappoiinted that gloss is even an optionn. Ugh. This is why I hate pc laptops :eek: The backlight thing is really important to me, so now I don't have to sit and have regrets about mbp or mb! :p :p
 
solaris said:
Ditto!
Hopefully Apple add this to the next revision.
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Firewire, sure. But dual layer burning isn't under Apple's control. They (optical drive manufacturers) did not, and as far as I know still do not, offer a dual layer drive in the necessary dimensions for the MBP.
 
Does anyone think the 17 Inch MBP will get the upcoming 2.33ghz Core Duo chip that is out sooon before they all go Merom?
 
mozmac said:
2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button.....

Apple...when are you going to put a second mouse button on your laptops? You're shipping Mighty Mouse with computers, why not put something like that on the trackpad? If you are going to promote that you can run Windows natively, you can keep your stubborn, head-up-your-anus philosophy and not include a second mouse button.

One of our main clients was ready to switch everything over to MacBook Pros last month. They bought one to test it out and one of their biggest compaints was the lack of a second mouse button. They've decided to hold of and stick with ThinkPads. I don't know when they will give Apple another try now.
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I am torn on this one. All of the pro-apps and generally most people use the context (left mouse button). For me the 2 fingers on the mouse pad for context click works well.

The paradigm is something Apple instills in its designers. One mouse button is supposed to force them (remind them) not to think like everyone else. As a person who has to work with PCs at work and PCs and Macs at school and at home, I don't notice the lack of a second button. I just kind of switch automatically. What tends to bother me is the difference between the use of the control and Apple key. From time to time I don't hit Apple +C and accidentally hit ctrl+C, or v.v.s.)

This all said, Shake and FCP go much quicker with a 2+ button mouse. But when I bought the FCP suite, I also purchased a M$ mouse, so Apple looses and M$ wins. Though, for almost all other applications I use the track pad with gestures enabled.
 
The only people who can call their mac laptop obsolete now, are the ibook and powerbook users. Those trying to get faster mbp and $ refunds, goodluck to you, but it's just a fact of life computers upgrade often.

I'm happy with my Powerbook 12''. The guy at the store said I would be happy with it, it would last and have no problems, which is exactly the reason why I made the switch and went for my first Mac.

I feel sorry for those who just couldn't hold their credit cards or wallets still and decided to get the first Rev of MBP, or indeed MB. I was thinking of waiting until now, but was no way I was getting rev a after what i've heard about them, plus Powerbook has been proven that it will last ages without problems so why toy with fact
 
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