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MacBook Pro Speed Bump
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jaydub said:
Annnnnd I guess this proves it too:
Bright, widescreen experience
At 1280 by 800, the 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display delivers 30% more viewing area than the iBook or 12-inch PowerBook — perfect for movies and more...
Based on the above posts that trashed the glossy screen, I'm now less enthusiatic about getting a Macbook, as cool as it is... They were never glossy before?
Played with a macbook today....
Yea i was at the apple store today and to my surprise they actually had macbooks already. Seems like its usually a week or so after the announcement that new machines arrive at the apple stores. They had both a black one and a white one on display for people to look at. That black case is pretty hot in real life though i liked the white one a lot too. I also have to say they looked much better in real life then in the pictures on the apple site imho. They were nice and snappy though i didn't want to hog it so i didn't try anything very intensive. The cases them selves felt pretty light though not super light but at the same time felt rigid and strong. The keybord design stood out to me the most as different, there is a visible gab between all the keys giving it a unique look, and a good feel. On the black version the letters on the keys are white giving a real "contrastey" look. Besides from the integrated graphics and the forced glossy screen apple did well with this machine.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Yea i was at the apple store today and to my surprise they actually had macbooks already. Seems like its usually a week or so after the announcement that new machines arrive at the apple stores. They had both a black one and a white one on display for people to look at. That black case is pretty hot in real life though i liked the white one a lot too. I also have to say they looked much better in real life then in the pictures on the apple site imho. They were nice and snappy though i didn't want to hog it so i didn't try anything very intensive. The cases them selves felt pretty light though not super light but at the same time felt rigid and strong. The keybord design stood out to me the most as different, there is a visible gab between all the keys giving it a unique look, and a good feel. On the black version the letters on the keys are white giving a real "contrastey" look. Besides from the integrated graphics and the forced glossy screen apple did well with this machine.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
DL drives
I'm very excited about the speed bump/price drop since it drops the cost of the computer i'm obsessively dreaming about...I've had a 667 PB for the past 4 years so I may have seizures when I use this newer computer due to the speed(JK )
anyway, while it would bum me out to miss out on a speed bump if it occured the day after I bought (which is why I check this place out), my main concern is the 4x superdrive. I read elsewhere that you can't even get DVDs to burn with this slower drive since they almost all only work with the 8x drive. Or at least the ones for the slower drive are hard to come by. Is this true? I don't make movies (yet) but for data backup I would like to make sure I can easily get the media. I don't want to be sitting here 4 years from now unable to even use the drive for data backup because the media is unobtainable. That being said, anybody know of rumors for a 8x DL drive that will be released? I'm clearly a novice when it comes to the DVD media stuff since my computer is archaic. Although if it weren't for the fact that the screen on my PB is busted and I can no longer easily open and close it without further damaging it. The screen itself functions beautifully so it's sad that mobility is nearly impossible as this beauty continues to function so well.
And yes, unless I am forced to upgrade for some reason such as no longer being able to get suitable software for the MBP as it stands in 4 years, I probably won't be able to afford a new computer for awhile once I get it. Gotta get a new car, I'll have to start paying off my $175,000+ loan for my education, mortgage, and god knows what else.
That is unless I find myself a sugar daddy
I'm very excited about the speed bump/price drop since it drops the cost of the computer i'm obsessively dreaming about...I've had a 667 PB for the past 4 years so I may have seizures when I use this newer computer due to the speed(JK
)anyway, while it would bum me out to miss out on a speed bump if it occured the day after I bought (which is why I check this place out), my main concern is the 4x superdrive. I read elsewhere that you can't even get DVDs to burn with this slower drive since they almost all only work with the 8x drive. Or at least the ones for the slower drive are hard to come by. Is this true? I don't make movies (yet) but for data backup I would like to make sure I can easily get the media. I don't want to be sitting here 4 years from now unable to even use the drive for data backup because the media is unobtainable. That being said, anybody know of rumors for a 8x DL drive that will be released? I'm clearly a novice when it comes to the DVD media stuff since my computer is archaic. Although if it weren't for the fact that the screen on my PB is busted and I can no longer easily open and close it without further damaging it. The screen itself functions beautifully so it's sad that mobility is nearly impossible as this beauty continues to function so well.
And yes, unless I am forced to upgrade for some reason such as no longer being able to get suitable software for the MBP as it stands in 4 years, I probably won't be able to afford a new computer for awhile once I get it. Gotta get a new car, I'll have to start paying off my $175,000+ loan for my education, mortgage, and god knows what else.
That is unless I find myself a sugar daddy
caralck said:I'm very excited about the speed bump/price drop since it drops the cost of the computer i'm obsessively dreaming about...I've had a 667 PB for the past 4 years so I may have seizures when I use this newer computer due to the speed(JK
anyway, while it would bum me out to miss out on a speed bump if it occured the day after I bought (which is why I check this place out), my main concern is the 4x superdrive. I read elsewhere that you can't even get DVDs to burn with this slower drive since they almost all only work with the 8x drive. Or at least the ones for the slower drive are hard to come by. Is this true? I don't make movies (yet) but for data backup I would like to make sure I can easily get the media. I don't want to be sitting here 4 years from now unable to even use the drive for data backup because the media is unobtainable. That being said, anybody know of rumors for a 8x DL drive that will be released? I'm clearly a novice when it comes to the DVD media stuff since my computer is archaic. Although if it weren't for the fact that the screen on my PB is busted and I can no longer easily open and close it without further damaging it. The screen itself functions beautifully so it's sad that mobility is nearly impossible as this beauty continues to function so well.
And yes, unless I am forced to upgrade for some reason such as no longer being able to get suitable software for the MBP as it stands in 4 years, I probably won't be able to afford a new computer for awhile once I get it. Gotta get a new car, I'll have to start paying off my $175,000+ loan for my education, mortgage, and god knows what else.
That is unless I find myself a sugar daddy
I'm able to find media quite easily for my 2x Super Drive. The ratings for DVDs are not labeled specifically for one speed, they're rated at the fastest speed they can handle. IE, on an 8x disc you can write at 8x, 4x, 2x, or 1x (they don't make other speeds as far as I know in between there).
Uh...did the 17" MBPs get boosted at all?
Looks like the same price and the exact same stats. Still 2.16 Ghz, still 100 or 120Gb HD. Still 2Gb max ram...
The only difference I can see is that now you have the option to get a glossy (read: glare-riddled) screen on your MBP. No, thanks.
Am I missing something? Was there some other performance bump that I've overlooked?
Looks like the same price and the exact same stats. Still 2.16 Ghz, still 100 or 120Gb HD. Still 2Gb max ram...
The only difference I can see is that now you have the option to get a glossy (read: glare-riddled) screen on your MBP. No, thanks.
Am I missing something? Was there some other performance bump that I've overlooked?
need money
has anyone played any games on the new macbook? whats the intergrated video experence like? id like one but i have not the money for a MBP only a MB and thats a mabey. . .
has anyone played any games on the new macbook? whats the intergrated video experence like? id like one but i have not the money for a MBP only a MB and thats a mabey. . .
bbrosemer said:
Expansion, RAM, HD, Graphics processing, Screen, Backlit keyboard, Aluminum.
You bought a top end machine. The same could have been said before when comparing the iBook with the PB 12". I never understood why the PB 12" sold for so much more.
caralck said:I'm very excited about the speed bump/price drop since it drops the cost of the computer i'm obsessively dreaming about...I've had a 667 PB for the past 4 years so I may have seizures when I use this newer computer due to the speed(JK
anyway, while it would bum me out to miss out on a speed bump if it occured the day after I bought (which is why I check this place out), my main concern is the 4x superdrive. I read elsewhere that you can't even get DVDs to burn with this slower drive since they almost all only work with the 8x drive. Or at least the ones for the slower drive are hard to come by. Is this true? I don't make movies (yet) but for data backup I would like to make sure I can easily get the media. I don't want to be sitting here 4 years from now unable to even use the drive for data backup because the media is unobtainable. That being said, anybody know of rumors for a 8x DL drive that will be released? I'm clearly a novice when it comes to the DVD media stuff since my computer is archaic. Although if it weren't for the fact that the screen on my PB is busted and I can no longer easily open and close it without further damaging it. The screen itself functions beautifully so it's sad that mobility is nearly impossible as this beauty continues to function so well.
And yes, unless I am forced to upgrade for some reason such as no longer being able to get suitable software for the MBP as it stands in 4 years, I probably won't be able to afford a new computer for awhile once I get it. Gotta get a new car, I'll have to start paying off my $175,000+ loan for my education, mortgage, and god knows what else.
That is unless I find myself a sugar daddy
You have things very backward. If you have a 1x burning drive you can use any disk. If you have an 8x burning drive you can use any disk. It will only burn at 8x if you use an 8x disc. Etc.
BlackLilyNinja said:
Its technially impossible unless your very good at soldering, due to the Core Duo is actually hard soldered onto the logic board.
bretm said:
I'm not totally sure I understand the differences, either.
As far as expansion go, the 15" MBP and the 13" MB seem similar; both have 2 USB 2.0 ports and one FW400. The difference is that the MBP has the ExpressCard/34 slot and DVI out, whereas the MB has just a mini-DVI
So what's the difference between mini-DVI and...um...regular DVI?
The Ram and HD of the maxed-out MB are exactly the same as those of the maxed-out MBPs (15" or 17"): 2GB ram, 120GB HD.
The best processor on the MBPs (2.16 GHz) is better than the best in the MBs (2.0 GHz).
True, the MBP keyboard is backlit, but i admit i'm sortof intrigued by the style of the new MB keyboard. Each key looks more isolated. Overall, i think the keyboard looks less...cheap than the PB/MBP keyboards.
What I know least about is the graphics support bit. Someone help me out here. Do the MacBooks and MBPs have the same graphics card? If not, what's the functional difference between them. And what ARE integrated graphics?
astral said:Drat. shipped May 4. Oh well, no free money for me...
Is not 14 days?
I got my MBP 17" "refund-price-adjustment" at the Apple Store Eaton Centre today. I got Apple Care with it.
I have good experiences when I buy at the Apple Retail Store. No complains.
It's not broken if it still works--my original Macintosh isn't broken, but it can't play DVDs or get on the Internet. That's obsolete. A 1968 Mustang could be obsolete, but there are those who would argue otherwise. A 2004 or 2005 Mustang is most certainly not--is your Mustang obsolete? After all, it is no longer in production.zync said:
What? A 486 cannot function as a viable PC in 2006. You can't do video editing, Internet access is questionable, available video cards are tremendously inadequate, and they cannot run the current versions of word processing or financial applications even to fit your example. How can you say a 1968 Mustang is obsolete (when it still runs on the same fuel and you can still drive and maintain it) and a 486 is not?
And it regularly does. Outdated != obsolete.
Then you are far from a student of the English language. You should know that a basic dictionary is not a complete answer for a word any more than a thesaurus can be trusted. Brief definitions of words do not properly convey appropriate usage or the linguistic connotation of a word. Crimson and cardinal are both defined as shades of dark red, but that's not the whole story, is it? If you really cared about what the word means enough to dig your heels in about this, you should know at least that much.
Glossy screen pictures
For those of us who aren't able to check out the glossy screens in person, here is an article with some illustrative pictures of the glossy screen in action:
http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/5/16/4004
For those of us who aren't able to check out the glossy screens in person, here is an article with some illustrative pictures of the glossy screen in action:
http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/5/16/4004
I'm waiting for Merom and the requisite $3k or so to get a 17" MBP. If, between now and then, the matte screen ceases to be an option on the MBPs, I am going to fling myself in front of a train (excessive?).
I am dreadfully afraid the whole portable line is going to go in the direction of glossy screens. I hope against hope that this is not the case. Fortunately, I have legions of graphic designers, creative professionals, and so on that're on my side here. Gloss = glare = unusable. Here's hoping Apple leaves the pro model alone and keeps the matte finish (at least as an option).
I am dreadfully afraid the whole portable line is going to go in the direction of glossy screens. I hope against hope that this is not the case. Fortunately, I have legions of graphic designers, creative professionals, and so on that're on my side here. Gloss = glare = unusable. Here's hoping Apple leaves the pro model alone and keeps the matte finish (at least as an option).
Glad I read this thread. My MBP 17" is shipping and should be here in the next 2 days.
This will be my first ever laptop, at present I have a PC at the office and one at home, and it gets frustrating because I cannot really work from home properly.
My plan was to use the laptop as a glorified portable hard drive, and just plug in spare screens, keyboard, mouse etc when in the office or home.
However once the 17" was released for same money as full-spec 15" I ordered that as I am hoping I might be able to use the screen on the Griffin Icurve stand, and this will save me purchasing or using extra monitors. I have a 17" Dell screen at the moment, so happy with 17".
Then I saw the new Macbook. I can get same processor and hard drive spec for 2000 rather than 3,000 but....
I want a good graphics card for Photoshop etc, so hoping the MBP was the better choice, plus I could NEVER work with a glossy screen (yuk).
I don't need the portability as such - I want performance, and hoping the 17" was still the right choice if I can actually use that screen all day, every day.
This will be my first ever laptop, at present I have a PC at the office and one at home, and it gets frustrating because I cannot really work from home properly.
My plan was to use the laptop as a glorified portable hard drive, and just plug in spare screens, keyboard, mouse etc when in the office or home.
However once the 17" was released for same money as full-spec 15" I ordered that as I am hoping I might be able to use the screen on the Griffin Icurve stand, and this will save me purchasing or using extra monitors. I have a 17" Dell screen at the moment, so happy with 17".
Then I saw the new Macbook. I can get same processor and hard drive spec for 2000 rather than 3,000 but....
I want a good graphics card for Photoshop etc, so hoping the MBP was the better choice, plus I could NEVER work with a glossy screen (yuk).
I don't need the portability as such - I want performance, and hoping the 17" was still the right choice if I can actually use that screen all day, every day.
eXan said:
Someone clarify this whole graphics card issue for me. Why is nVidia not a good idea? What is the difference between a dedicated graphics card and a...not...dedicated...card? I guess, mainly, i'm wondering what the significant difference between the MBP's graphics setup and the MB's is. Thanks.
dferrara said:This calls for some David Firth.
Haha, nice
That cartoon is a little "nuanced" though 
absurdio said:
The difference the Intel Graphics card takes RAM from your computer!!! It "borrows RAM actually but still the point of the matter is that a dedicated GPU is so much more powerful than any intergrated gpu. Secondly the intel GPU's come with a whole 64 meg on chip, where as the ATI's come with 256. The intel chip is just going to suck up system RAM where as the ATI will run bitchingly fast and carry out nearly everyone's GPU needs on a laptop. If you are looking to play high end games on this computer the MBP is the way to go the MB, will be good for low end games. Ex. Chips Challenege will run very well on the MB. Where as Half Life 2 will be 2 FPS. If you plan on getting the MB make sure you load that with RAM.
absurdio said:
The difference between a dedicated graphics card and an integrated graphics card is that integrated graphics share the RAM with with rest of the system, actually taking over however much RAM is alotted to it, while a dedicated card has its own memory, so when it says the X1600 has 256MB vRAM, thats its own dedicated RAM, but teh Intel GMA 950 has 64MB SHARED RAM, which is basically steals from system ram to do its job.
someone please correct me if I'm wrong