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MacBook Pro Supplies Constrained, Steve Jobs Says 'Not to Worry'

ipoppy said:
Exactly my thought. BR is so dead. It seems that everything is focused on streaming HD content over internet plus flash drives getting cheaper. It is no brainer here;)
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An HTML4 syntax might be dead. But BD isn't.
Can I have your Crystal Ball? I wanna pay for the rest of my University and have some scratch left.
 
Here in Belgium, MACLINE, a local reseller of Mac's has a action running at the moment where you get a discount on a Macbook, Macbook Pro and Imac if you bring in a old pc/mac (may even be broken and not running). It's end date is april 15.
So maybe tuesday 20 april they will tell us that there are new macbook pro's coming.
 
HoT dEv1L 666 said:
I beg to differ. The general public has been adequately exposed to Intel's marketing for the i3/i5/i7 processors, so much so that they have been entrenched in people's minds, consciously or otherwise. The increased proliferation of these processors in PCs have also led to increased awareness. If Apple continues to market their MacBook Pro line alongside others which have these newly-branded processors, they will certainly suffer. Every PC manufacturer with products in the same price range out there has already made the switch to these processors. Even Apple's own iMacs come with i5/i7 processors. It is not hard to see that people will tend to shun the MacBook Pro.

Certainly, there is truth in your argument. Indeed, the average Joes do not delve into technical minutiae when purchasing a computer. However, marketing on TV, billboards, the internet, etc. does such a good job the "Clarkdale" and "Arrandale" differences are blurred to them, leaving behind the consumer-friendly branding of i3, i5 and i7. Consumers generally don't care how good something really is. To them, Core 2 Duos sound like yesterday's technology, and i5 sounds like something better - even if a high-end C2D might perform a lot better than a mid-end i5 processor, consumers will generally go for the i5-powered products.

Do not underestimate the power of marketing. Impulse buys are usually directed by snap judgments which are heavily influenced by marketing spiel.
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The General Public (whomever that is) probably doesn't have the slightest idea what an i3, i5, or i7 chip is. They don't know their Clarksfields from their Arrandales. Most of them can't tell an AMD chip from an Intel chip.

The average computer geek? Different story. If Apple's main demographic where the 1337 computer geek, then you would have a reasonable argument.
 
840quadra said:
It's a free market. If you like or want one of those, go buy one! ;)
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And I will if Apple doesn't release anything by May (that's when we move into a house where my iMac won't be in the main room). The Asus and Sony thin an lights are really nice.
 
ss957916 said:
So - my brother, whom I've told to wait, is still waiting.

I'm beginning to look like a fool.

What should I tell him? He wants a MacBook Pro!! But I don't want him coming to me moaning that he's spent a fortune on a computer that, a few days later, is old technology.

What do I do?
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Find a superb deal on a used machine still under warranty, and flip it when new models come out (or wait another generation). If you want to save more, get one that's already a generation old. Then you have a machine in your hand AND can get the latest and greatest at minimal cost of ownership.
 
Maybe C2D isn't it but Arrandale isn't likely significant in these updates either.

Azathoth said:
It's an Intel based PC. I know what I want, need and expect for the money - regardless of whether it has Apple, IBM or Asus on the case - and C2D ain't it.
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Even if Apple puts the latest intel hardware in the new machines {that is nit a given} such hardware is not all that significant. Especially in light of what Apple could do GPU wise.
Some other muppet suggested that SJ reply indicated he had empathy with our plight! Geez the koolaid was strong today.
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I seriously doubt that is the case. It is more likely a kind way to tell some stupid ass to cool ones heels. Because when it comes right down to it all of this emotion over a new MBP is irrational and very girlly.

Apples MBP team puts a lot of effort into each major rev of the MBP line. The last thing they need is arm chair quarterbacks tellling them how disappointed they are with the assumed late release.
I'm still waiting for the 2010 MBP release to check out the OS X waters...
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I don't blame you for waiting but on the otherhand you have gained nothing by waiting. It is very much a toss up. I made my move to a MBP in early 2008 after being a long time Linux user at home. Even though Apple came out with a vastly improved MBP in the next rev I'm still glad that I took the plunge when I did. Snow Leopard especially has been a joy to use. Even with some of my preferred open source software.

That is not to say that things where perfect out of the box either. Leopard had all sorts of issues that where fixed in Snow Leopard. The point here is that new hardware does not assure trouble free systems. Especially if this becomes a dreaded rev A machine with a lot of new capability.

So I see both sides of the fence here. A 2010 MBP ought to introduce a whole new raft of hardware. It might also introduce a raft of rev A issues that might color your intro to Snow Leopard.


Dave
 
Not Enough Bandwidth

I think it is pretty obvious that Apple simply does not have enough bandwidth to work on innovative technology and keep up with its competitors in the PC market - at least from a hardware perspective. They have made a decision to focus on innovation and accept the fact that they are going to lag six to nine months behind everyone else in the PC market. It probably won't cost them that much business because their user base is so loyal.

I just hope they do a better job with the initial launch of the iPad than they did with the iPhone. Remember when the iPhone originally launched? People stood in line for days to get it - then a few months later Apple dropped the price by $200. What a kick in the teeth! Apple finally gave people who paid the higher price a $100 credit towards other Apple purchases, but I was never really satisfied with that solution. The people who buy this new technology right away are the most loyal of all of Apple's customers - I thought they deserved better treatment than that.

Let's hope Apple does a better job with the iPad.
 
SteveSparks said:
The problem is that while we worry, and we understand their will eventually be an update. The lack of information is really lame.
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But after 15 years at least for me when is this not normal?

This was one of the complaints of Business years ago and would be today, not that most business even care about having the latest and newest.

I rather they take their time, finish the iPad, then turn over and do a great job on a new lightup of Mac Pro, once they have those out with i5 and i7 and new Video cards running OpenGL 3 we will all be much happier. Last F* thing I want is quality going down, is that not why we also like Apple hardware. Take your time Apple don't disappoint me, I am in the mood for at least an i5 laptop with a nice 5750 video card.

So waiting another month or two I see it as no big deal, does anyone really have to have it right now, if you do, not a problem, I am sure Dell or Denovo have the latest version just waiting for your enjoyment, hahahaha.

So as Stevie said "relax have another moca latte." :D
 
Icaras said:
I would hardly call the core iX series a "minor update"...
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Well, it is. It's a pretty cool manufacturing process, but the clock-for-clock increase for you is on average 19%, clock for clock. You can get more increase than that simply by going from the 2.53Ghz model to the 2.8Ghz model.

Core iX isn't magical from the user end. It's just more efficient.
 
DocNYz said:
a) a hard disk failing is NOT apple's fault

b) I totally agree, TM is so amazingly crucial for absolutely perfect full restore ESPECIALLY when HDDs fail due to a lemon from the third party factory or due to misuse (more common, obviously, in laptops than iMacs/Desktops 'cause they get more strain and torque and momentum changes that they're not designed for)
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So you are saying portable hard drives are not designed... tobe... PORTABLE?

Exactly, it must be the end users fault that they used their portable computer in a portable fashion.
 
Bulls***!

LOL, do some of you guys accually believe that Steve Jobs has written this e-mail himself? That's BULLSHIP!

We know that Apple with 100% accuracy gonna update their MBP line up, but NO ONE knows when this is going to happen.

Although this is difficult, try to be patient guys, then our love for our future MBP will be much stronger! ;)
 
It'll all be worth the wait if the new laptops include special iPad / iPod Touch functionality.

Something REALLY cool would be a mouse pad which is basically an iPod Touch. And the addition of a 3G/4G radio which can be used with the iPad contract through AT&T.

I'm just dreaming the impossible dream, aren't I?
 
wizard said:
Even if Apple puts the latest intel hardware in the new machines {that is nit a given} such hardware is not all that significant. Especially in light of what Apple could do GPU wise.

Apples MBP team puts a lot of effort into each major rev of the MBP line. The last thing they need is arm chair quarterbacks tellling them how disappointed they are with the assumed late release.
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While I agree that the new hardware updates are probably not going to make that much of a difference to most users, I think the bigger issue is from a pricing perspective.

Apple rarely adjusts its prices on existing computers - it puts one release out at one price and the next release out at a new price. The longer the period between releases, the greater the price difference between Apple and competing products.

When the current MBP's were first released, there was a $200 to $400 premium over similarly configured PC's. Now that premium is around $800 to $1,200. So I think a lot of the current complaining is as much about price as it is about hardware.

If Apple is going to take this long between releases they should consider some type of price reductions on their current line as they get closer to the next release date.
 
4look4rd said:
I am very sorry to say this but if the next Macbook Pro refresh isn't something truly amazing and mesmerizing (like an all in one lap top with a good graphics card) I am going to go to the darkside.

I am kind of tired of paying a premium for aesthetics and better battery life (well with the difference I could buy 3+ batteries for a decent lap top), I will certainly miss the design and the overall quality of hardware, but I simply can not live with mac's outdated graphics card.
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If it's worth putting up with Windows that might be your best solution.
Personally I simply can not live with Microsoft's outdated operating system.
 
dernhelm said:
ASUS produces some excellent computers, top-end ASUS vs. top-end Sony? I'd say its a toss up. Lower end stuff, no question - the ASUS is better.

These are the only two non-Apple brands that I've ever recommended to anyone.
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yea i'm looking at both of them as well as apple. I already have an iMac but I want something lightweight with good battery to mainly browse the web and watch some video. I can do all my photo and video work on my iMac. Sony and Asus make some really high quality machines. But we're also waiting on Asus to release the new thin and light 12 hour battery i5.
 
ChrisNM said:
If Apple is going to take this long between releases they should consider some type of price reductions on their current line as they get closer to the next release date.
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Why should they? What's their need or incentive? To increase sale or profits?
$50 billion in the bank and growing.

They know that their captive fan bois, cultists and zombies won't buy anything else and will pay up to twice as much for fewer features, fewer models, low rez screens, limited options and prehistioric updates.

Why should Apple lower prices? :apple:
 
dwd3885 said:
yea i'm looking at both of them as well as apple. I already have an iMac but I want something lightweight with good battery to mainly browse the web and watch some video. I can do all my photo and video work on my iMac. Sony and Asus make some really high quality machines. But we're also waiting on Asus to release the new thin and light 12 hour battery i5.
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Web and video? Get an iPad!
 
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