+1 I've been saying this for years. If Apple lowered prices over time then it wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't stay up to date with the latest and greatest. Since they want to be the premium maker and charge premium prices they need to stay on the cutting edge in order to stay price comparable to other manufactures.
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MacBook Pro Supplies Constrained, Steve Jobs Says 'Not to Worry'
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+1 I've been saying this for years. If Apple lowered prices over time then it wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't stay up to date with the latest and greatest. Since they want to be the premium maker and charge premium prices they need to stay on the cutting edge in order to stay price comparable to other manufactures.
That's insane. Apple is in such good position since they have so many fans that would buy their products no matter what. It's a good business plan, they don't even have to lower their prices. If they actually put out a new macbook, they would actually be making less money, so being in its current situation, why not wait as long as possible.
an app for that
He probably has an app for that.. sort of like a slot machine, randomly picks which emails he responds to.
He probably has an app for that.. sort of like a slot machine, randomly picks which emails he responds to.
we are the bread and butter for stevie boy jobs , so im sure when he says not to worry he means not to worry means that i have something that is nice coming your way and then its a "now that i have your undivided attention get your spondulees out and make me even richer" ?? yes no ??
Its getting deep in here.
The frenzy over this 3 word cryptic email is insane. It shows how off the rocker people have become.
Imagine sending that email to any other CEO and getting that trite response. Would you be satisfied - NO. You would be ticked off.
But people on this forum are treating those 3 words like mana from heaven.
Please.
SJ didn't have the courtesy to answer the emailer's questions. He didn't take the time to say "thanks for your loyalty, thanks for being a customer, or thanks for your patience". He didn't even say "Soon" which would have given a little more insight - then "Not to worry".
The simple fact is that email provided us no more information then we had a week ago. Period.
I do a lot of video editing - primarily on a desktop. There is great software on a PC and a Mac that will do what I need to do. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
But come May 20th, I am going to be traveling all summer and will need a high end laptop. A few weeks from now, I am going to be taking a very unbiased look at what is the best machine for my trip.
I can tell you it won't be an overpriced, outdated MBP. But that is OK Steve - "Not to worry."
The frenzy over this 3 word cryptic email is insane. It shows how off the rocker people have become.
Imagine sending that email to any other CEO and getting that trite response. Would you be satisfied - NO. You would be ticked off.
But people on this forum are treating those 3 words like mana from heaven.
Please.
SJ didn't have the courtesy to answer the emailer's questions. He didn't take the time to say "thanks for your loyalty, thanks for being a customer, or thanks for your patience". He didn't even say "Soon" which would have given a little more insight - then "Not to worry".
The simple fact is that email provided us no more information then we had a week ago. Period.
I do a lot of video editing - primarily on a desktop. There is great software on a PC and a Mac that will do what I need to do. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
But come May 20th, I am going to be traveling all summer and will need a high end laptop. A few weeks from now, I am going to be taking a very unbiased look at what is the best machine for my trip.
I can tell you it won't be an overpriced, outdated MBP. But that is OK Steve - "Not to worry."
That comment is actually insane. Apple almost went out-of-business once before because they made the mistake of assuming that their fan base was so loyal that they could do anything they wanted.
Why not wait as long as possible? That's a great plan. Why not wait until 2010? Let's see what happens to Apple's market share in the laptop market with that kind of strategy.
There is a limit to what people are willing to accept, or pay, even for Apple fans.
your so right woody everyone else like sony acer dell can get their i5 i7 notebooks out but apple just wants us to wait like little kids outside a sweetshop wishing it would open so they can rush in and buy any sweet as long as its a sweet, same principle applies with apple wait wait and wait then bang its here so we dont care that its nearly 6 to 7months behind its competitors we just buy it cos we waited so long
Why should they? What's their need or incentive? To increase sale or profits?
$50 billion in the bank and growing.
They know that their captive fan bois, cultists and zombies won't buy anything else and will pay up to twice as much for fewer features, fewer models, low rez screens, limited options and prehistioric updates.
Why should Apple lower prices?
Like I said again it's not your fault, it's the moderators' fault for repeatedly allowing you to come here and throw these garbage, calling the majority of the apple users here cultists and zombies.
And of course after the ad hominems you are full of arguments:
fewer models: five separate macbook models (not counting the different cpu, gpu options), next time blame porche for not flooding the market like kia.
fewer features: multi touch, unibody, led screens, glass trackpads, (all of which were first in class), a plethora of current ports, ssds across the board, and that's not counting any of the OS features which are best in class.
low rez screens: ha, sure... find a higher rez screen than the imac 27" all in one and then we can talk.
prehistoric updates: i.e. waiting for a couple of months max (and that only for this line up, because for the c2ds they were as fast or faster than competitors) for each incremental 15% added power/value intel update, so they can offer some of the best chip sets and gpu integration
You are a sad bitter little man.
No, just answering a question What is NAB?, one member asked cant a guy just answer a question?
Personally I think theyre gonna wait till the iPad fever cools down The actual MBP are running low in inventory all around so its just a matter of good timing now, would be stupid if you really want a mac, you're gonna get it anyways be it this model or the next has us by the balls
Obviously he has instructed some people to forward present some emails to him according to the extent to which they represent public sentiment (no. of related emails), new products, or particular areas of interest to him.
Isn't there only three models of Macbook (Plain, Pro, Air) with multiple configurations?
Can't argue with most of this. USB3 may be a sticking point if it were present in other notebooks.
I think the op was really talking about notebooks.
Wasn't that the same line used with the iMacs getting an update right up until Apple used iX? I bet it will be the same tune when the notebooks get iX.
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Nor did i present it as such... merely the first New Zealand entity to claim that April was a time when Arrandale MBPs would be for sale. [and that from someone who would be actually selling them, supposedly.]
Yeah, he should have replied with a diatribe and send a couple of boxes of champagne to the emailer...
So you will be taking an unbiased view at everything but the "overpriced, outdated MBP"...
Unfortunately that is correct with their business plan, which is working. They long ago gave up the fight for marketshare which would require adjusting prices and a shorter interval between releases to be more competitive.
Simply put they found it better/easier to sell 10 machines at 35% margin (or higher as line ages) then 30 machines at 15% margin (or less as some others do).
Personally I would like to see a slight adjustment and pass on price decreases as the component prices decrease or more minor updates over a lines lifespan, but again that isn't their model.
In order:
No. you can't count three different size laptops (the macbook pros) with different screen sizes and specs as "one model", it's the same line of models, just cause apple names them macbook pro across the board and others name them UC36, BD48, DR28 and all that jazz doesn't make them have less models.
There has to be some modicum of USB3 adoption like you said first before apple go that way, that said the current firewire standard is very advanced too and caters very well to audio and external storage purposes.
The op is troll, a person who comes here to call apple users zombies and other expletives. Even if you exclude the best all in one (and the cheapest! with these specs) imac, still there are no issues with screen resolutions in the lappies.
What same line? It's a reality. With intel constraining nvidia they way they have apple have an engineering problem at hand and they are coming up with the best solution. The imac example is not the same, because the thermals are different.
The "five separate models" argument is kind of silly (it's marketing),
These are mostly cosmetic, not functionality, with the exception of SSD, which you can get elsewhere. Gone are the days of really jet-setting innovation.
Low-rez was obviously a reference to the laptops, and other manufacturers have had Core iX on the market for months now.
He's right -- people will buy it because it has an Apple on the back, and people will wait for the same reason.
He was expressing an opinion about the Apple fan base.
This is an opinion, not a fact. There are threads here where this is debated ad nauseum. Many users, myself included, find the 15" resolution to be paltry for what you spend.
Another way to put it is that Apple insisted on playing hardball and for the sake of pride wouldn't accepted the integrated GPU, which is why we don't have new models right now.
first time poster... frustrated with the wait...
i'm definitely in the wait but because school is almost over and the fact that jobs has let us down for the past month is making me wonder if the wait for Arrandale is worth it...
the thing is when you ppl say soon... even you don't know what that means....
so please... someone provide a functioning definition for "soon"
soon as in a day soon... week soon... hours soon???
if you say soon... it should been within the month... NOT monthS... so if you ppl mean soon... June is NOT soon... June is later... no soon... grammar lessons ppl... soon means today or within the week... THAT is soon... not June....
i didn't mean for that to rhyme....
i'm definitely in the wait but because school is almost over and the fact that jobs has let us down for the past month is making me wonder if the wait for Arrandale is worth it...
the thing is when you ppl say soon... even you don't know what that means....
so please... someone provide a functioning definition for "soon"
soon as in a day soon... week soon... hours soon???
if you say soon... it should been within the month... NOT monthS... so if you ppl mean soon... June is NOT soon... June is later... no soon... grammar lessons ppl... soon means today or within the week... THAT is soon... not June....
i didn't mean for that to rhyme....
Do it then. If you're happy with a non Mac laptop, use one. Some of us have standards.
Thank you. Thank you for shutting the mouth of rich groupies who are the reason for brands in every domain to take consumers for fools (when only the groupies are) and be late on innovation or news.
It's simple, Mac OSX is great, but Windows 7 is not that bad when tweaked, and I'm not talking about Ubuntu or Chrome OS.
So really switching "out" may be the danger for Apple if intelligent and trendsetting consumer realise that the pace of Apple innovation and release is getting slower and slower compared to the rest of the market...
The line that Core iX isn't important. The existing CPUs are as fast. When Apple used the Core iX in the iMacs that whole thought process went away (for the iMac). I understand that Apple basically screwed themselves be relying on nVidia for a chipset (when pretty much everyone who followed Core iX knew that nVidia didn't have a license to make chipsets for Nehalem). It would seem like Apple would have a long enough period of time to come to grips with the performance difference in the IGP's and still be able to trumpet the advantage of the discrete part (assuming they would use ATI). When going from the iBooks to the Macbooks they didn't really dwell much on the GPU performance (from what I could remember). They could just do the same this time.
Go back and read my post again. I said "consciously or otherwise". Most people don't give a damn about marketing, yeah, but it's in your unconscious, and it spurs awareness. Intel doesn't just spend money on marketing for nothing.
There actually is one. Handy, eh?
When supplies become constrained for the prior unit for about 2 weeks first. This is how they reliably depopulate the channel. As they cease production there is a continued flow of orders and they get sent from increasingly distant, random, and remote locations, until they are down to under 25% of peak pipeline fill. The new units are released, and a small fraction of people expressly ask for the prior revision for some feature it has. Then they go to refurb.
Soon is when supplies are constrained for 2 weeks. It's actually pretty reliable.
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