Straight up - I'll predict a minor refresh to a GPU that was shipping on Windows laptops two years ago.
That's a pretty safe prediction, based on the last few refresh cycles.
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Straight up - I'll predict a minor refresh to a GPU that was shipping on Windows laptops two years ago.
That's a pretty safe prediction, based on the last few refresh cycles.
So, should I return my 17" i7 I just bought. Apple never lets you know when something new is coming, so I have no way to gauge what and when something new is coming.
The laptop was a refurb, so I won't get a restocking fee.
Probably not - *if* there's a new system released it might have some minor improvements over what you just bought. It's not likely that it will have major changes that you'll regret.
We're on the verge on needing two new MBP's for our office as well, with the new rumors I may hold off a bit.Microsoft Office 2008
The MacBook Air is rumored for late August or September, for the speed bump on the MBP's I read anything from next Tuesday to Spring 2011, lol.
As usual if you need it buy it now, if not wait a bit.
When do you all think/guess we'll see a refresh to the Laptop line?
Thanks.
The MacBook Air is rumored for late August or September, for the speed bump on the MBP's I read anything from next Tuesday to Spring 2011, lol.
As usual if you need it buy it now, if not wait a bit.
When do you all think/guess we'll see a refresh to the Laptop line?
Thanks.
I'm ready to buy my first Mac but I'm going to wait for the next refresh. My current laptop (Inspiron 6400 Core duo) isn't giving me any problems, so I'm going to take the wait and see approach, rather than regretting it later. Apple seems to be getting more serious about gaming on the Mac, so maybe we'll see a halfway decent/modern GPU along with the next refresh. Maybe even a IPS display like the iPhone, iPad, and ACD. It seems thats the way they are headed.
Why? USB is a joke. I don't use it for anything except my mouse. Give me Firewire 1600 instead, and I'll be very happy.
Hmmm, so we could be Looking at a speed bump and a bump on thr GPU side too? Why can't they just say what there going to do and when, so annoying, I need a mbp for my web,Photoshop, music, photography, I'm going to get an iMac next year as bein able to take my work everywhere is more important at the mo...
I'll take it!
The MBPs are always lumbered with a pretty poor GPU but I feel like the current 330M GT is particularly bad value for money.
If waiting a few months will get me even a slightly better chip, I'll do it. I had just been told that the only thing that was likely to change would be the CPU..
I agree. I have a 2 year old dell that I want to replace with a Macbook Pro 15". Unfortunately, I need the graphics card to handle TF2 + Starcraft2 well for my occasional gaming sessions. The current GPU isn't significant enough of a step up for me to upgrade yet.
If it's a "straight fit" new processor who reckons it's a "likely" thing, and who reckons it's just a "possible but unlikely" rumour? I figure january/feb will probably have a refresh anyway with the next processors, but if so 
may not bother with this one IMHO. But I'd be silly to buy a 4 month old one if sept/early oct I can get a better processor "for free".
Currently about to get the i7 17" MBP, then stick an Optibay in it to fit all my songs/samples etc. I've been saving for a couple of years so I can replace my slightly ropey Hackintosh Desktop with a real portable mac for music production/live use and general daily computing (other bills like new car/wedding making it slow work). So I do "need" it now, but equally I've "needed" it for the last year and a bit and survived this long dragging my desktop everywhere, so don't want to jump a month too soon if they'll likely come in september.
Since the MBA is due, does anyone reckon that'll be coming sept/oct and that'd make it more likely to have a general bump for the other MB's, or d'you think it's unrelated and unlikely based on previous history (if it's not just all wild speculation at best!).
No doubt as soon as I buy they'll release one with USB 3/FW3200 and the option of a 2nd internal HDD with external BD optical drive anyway....
may not bother with this one IMHO. But I'd be silly to buy a 4 month old one if sept/early oct I can get a better processor "for free".Currently about to get the i7 17" MBP, then stick an Optibay in it to fit all my songs/samples etc. I've been saving for a couple of years so I can replace my slightly ropey Hackintosh Desktop with a real portable mac for music production/live use and general daily computing (other bills like new car/wedding making it slow work). So I do "need" it now, but equally I've "needed" it for the last year and a bit and survived this long dragging my desktop everywhere, so don't want to jump a month too soon if they'll likely come in september.
Since the MBA is due, does anyone reckon that'll be coming sept/oct and that'd make it more likely to have a general bump for the other MB's, or d'you think it's unrelated and unlikely based on previous
history (if it's not just all wild speculation at best!).No doubt as soon as I buy they'll release one with USB 3/FW3200 and the option of a 2nd internal HDD with external BD optical drive anyway....
The problem isn't so much the GPU but the drivers - unless you've been living under a gigantic bolder for the last week there is already a conversation going on regarding the new drivers in development which address these performance issues. Instead of yelling at the wind why don't you investigate what is happening in the Mac world.
Thanks for that; further validates my decision to wait till this time next year before I do any upgrading; iMac and MacBook at the same time and hopefully with optimisation of Mac OS X 10.7 for the new AVX extensions and FMA3 which apparently will be making an appearance too. Lots of great performance tweaks coming into the future - hopefully their new golden compiler ala LLVM will be ready to take advantage of it so that code can be easily optimised for it.
Before you make assumptions about me, why don't you look into what's happening in the hardware world. The fact is the 330GT M and 9600GT M aren't that far apart. Drivers can only do so much. Both cards are classified as "class 2". Frankly, what I'm looking for feature wise is a "Class 1" card. Doesn't have to be the best or fastest, but it should be a generational jump. The 330M isn't a large enough bump compared to the 9600. I, like many others on this board, are waiting until the next Macbook Pro. Frankly, with the Mac Pro's going utilizing ATI GPU, there is no reason why the next Macbook Pro's won't use ATI. The iMac's already use the mobile graphics chips. And when doing performance/power-consumption comparison, ATI generally wins.
question is , when do you think this will be done? this year or next? Its so frustrating to hear about what could be done and then be so disappointed with what they release, you really can be waiting forever
New 16:9 MacBook Pros & Air January '11!
Expect New macBook Pro with 13" finally getting the Intel Core i3 chipset, but ALL will have a 16:9 Display like the 27" Cinema Display and iMac line.
Expect New macBook Pro with 13" finally getting the Intel Core i3 chipset, but ALL will have a 16:9 Display like the 27" Cinema Display and iMac line.
iPhone 4 uses Retinal and the ACD uses IPS, not sure what iPad uses
The driver suck really bad right now, the new drivers some people say quadruple FPS!
check back in two months and it will be good enough
Next one is unlikely to have USB3/FW3200 if Lightpeak is out by then, it would be roughly equivalent to FW12800 plus it supplies powerIf it's a "straight fit" new processor who reckons it's a "likely" thing, and who reckons it's just a "possible but unlikely" rumour? I figure january/feb will probably have a refresh anyway with the next processors, but if so
Currently about to get the i7 17" MBP, then stick an Optibay in it to fit all my songs/samples etc. I've been saving for a couple of years so I can replace my slightly ropey Hackintosh Desktop with a real portable mac for music production/live use and general daily computing (other bills like new car/wedding making it slow work). So I do "need" it now, but equally I've "needed" it for the last year and a bit and survived this long dragging my desktop everywhere, so don't want to jump a month too soon if they'll likely come in september.
Since the MBA is due, does anyone reckon that'll be coming sept/oct and that'd make it more likely to have a general bump for the other MB's, or d'you think it's unrelated and unlikely based on previous
No doubt as soon as I buy they'll release one with USB 3/FW3200 and the option of a 2nd internal HDD with external BD optical drive anyway....
I'm hoping AMD actually
Wow, this sounds like you believe that "Retinal" actually means something....
Apple marketing - putting the "reality distortion field" on paper.
(IPS is a display technology. "Retinal" is an Apple marketing term for a display which has a dots-per-inch (DPI) that's high enough that a user couldn't distinguish it from a higher DPI display in normal use. (For example, a handheld device with a 1000dpi screen would not be any better than a device with a 1,000,000dpi screen held at the same distance.))
I assumed when you were talking about performance you were talking solely on the basis of Mac OS X but what you link to are benchmarks on Windows - personally I'd sooner focus on the actual performance of such chips running with Mac OS X than whining about synthetic benchmarks on an operating system I'll never run.
I too would love to know why they didn't go with the ATI GPU given that Apple were quite happy to go with ATI on the iMac and Mac Pro's as you pointed out; on performance/power consumption ATI is ahead, if there are concerns over heat then it would be a matter of down clocking it so it fits into a confined space and thus still out perform nVidia. I've always been confused what Apple must get out of the arrangement with nVidia as to keep being with an organisation that has a horrible track record for QC (nVidia 8600 being an example of poor QC).
I think the only reason Apple sticks with nvidia currently is due to nvidia being able to switch between GPUs to improve battery life. I don't think ATI has that ability yet. On the 13" side, I think it is due to ATI not doing Intel chipsets anymore. Neither of those things are worried about in the desktops.
I just recently bought a 17" i7 Macbook Pro... Do you guys think i should return this? I really dont know what to do.
It isn't very long ago since the last upgrade to the macbook pro's, and i couldn't find any reason for apple to upgrade the current macbook pro's again in the upcomming months..
What do you guys think, will this happen and should i return my macbook?
It isn't very long ago since the last upgrade to the macbook pro's, and i couldn't find any reason for apple to upgrade the current macbook pro's again in the upcomming months..
What do you guys think, will this happen and should i return my macbook?
nvidia offers a one chip chipset/graphics solution. AMD/ATI offers something similar but it's not as good for notebooks as Intel's Core CPU's
This is something you wouldn't say if you bought one... I got a new 13inch and you can't compare it too an HP or whatever...
The biggest problem Apple has at this point is what to do with the 13" Macbook Pro. They obviously cannot fit a discrete card into the current case, and they will not use Intel graphics as the only solution.
Intel Core2Duo chips are coming to an end soon, and I think the only solution they have will be to go to a 14" or so screen with a 16x9 ratio. They may do this across the line, and up the standard screen resolution.
This is how Apple solved getting desktop chips (especially the quad-core) back into the iMac.
Intel Core2Duo chips are coming to an end soon, and I think the only solution they have will be to go to a 14" or so screen with a 16x9 ratio. They may do this across the line, and up the standard screen resolution.
This is how Apple solved getting desktop chips (especially the quad-core) back into the iMac.