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MacBook Pro Targeted 2.8GHz Core i7 Processors Due Later This Year
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You're right about Adobe - they should have been on top of next gen tools. But it's not all true. Jobs words on flash were polluted by those about h264 that were carefully worded to mislead people on the push for a format with license fees.
One way or another we will pay the piper. I think the description is a good comparison. Jobs is playing a song and the children are following him out of town - and very happily marching behind him.
Much like the pied piper - Jobs isn't doing this for our benefit. He's doing it because there is money to be made.
Not going to happen as long as Intel continues to hold off on putting 3.0 on the motherboards.
unfortunately apple, in their supreme wisdom, made the 512 graphics chip only available on the i7 version of the mbp -- so, yeah, reason to upgrade.
Let me get this straight...you want to change from using an aluminum case that also acts as a heat sink (but is still hard to cool) to a carbon fiber case that is an insulator? Lol.
There's a 140 MHz difference between the 2.66 GHz and 2.8 GHz machines....
But it's still faster to drive to a store and buy it
Music, yes. Movies? DRM infested, low quality crap? No thanks. I want the best quality there is - and that's NOT on iTunes.
The fact is... it's not
http://www.whathifi.com/news/blu-ray-disc-sales-up-94-year-on-year-for-q1/
"In total, the value of the combined disc market increased by 2.3 per cent, while the increase in volume was 3.8 per cent."
http://www.collider.com/2010/04/25/...selling-67-million-copies-in-first-four-days/
"Avatar sold 6.7 million DVD and Blu-rays in its first four days of release in North America. 2.7 million of those were on Blu-ray, shattering the record set by the former champ The Dark Knight, which took 18 months to sell 2.5 million Blu-rays"
No, buying a 13" MBP right now would be foolish unless you have burn money, need it right now for work or school, or just like buying old tech with a hipster logo. It's a shame too since I think 13" is the sweet spot as far as size (that's what she said). I'm buying one to replace my old macbook whenever they decide to actually upgrade the 13" MBP's.
REALLY irresponsible writing, MacRumors. PLEASE edit/update the post.
See here:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html
Specifically this:
So to be responsible you should say something like this:
So the comparison is between 2.66GHz/3.33GHz (current) vs. 2.8 GHz/3.46GHz (future).
Folks can stop fussing over the marginal difference here -- the memory and bus speed is still the limiting factor, unless Apple bump that up, too.
So yes, an improved graphics processor or twice the cores (for twice the threads) would be the only REAL reason to wait (IFF there was some credible rumor that such enhancements might on the way "this year").
Perhaps they should allow me to remove the drive and have a flap or door so I can store my food bars! Of course, they'd have to be melt proof.
You're making my point though. People complaining about the optical drive are making a big deal about not much. It's not actually that heavy and it really doesn't take much space. The drive doesn't even cost that much either. You're not going to free up huge bag space or noticeably lighten your bag by dropping the drive.
Processor interconnect speeds are pretty high, as is the speed to the SB. Memory speeds are the "problem", but faster SO-DIMMs won't help unless Apple/Intel opens up support for them.
It looks like both Intel and AMD are stepping up there IGP game for 2011.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/intel-briefly-demos-next-gen-sandy-bridge-laptop-platform-at-com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5mKP5R8B8
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/intel-briefly-demos-next-gen-sandy-bridge-laptop-platform-at-com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5mKP5R8B8
You missed my point there, how much more will you be able to carry in your computer bag when the drive is gone? The bag isn't going to be noticeably thinner either. Apple has already said they're not going to make a MacBook with a smaller screen, and have no reason to do so when they have the iPad, so you're not going to get a much smaller device by going without the drive.
I'm sorry. I'm missing your point too. People keep posting how Apple couldn't possibly cram more graphics power, battery, interfaces (USB 3.0, eSATA, more FW), faster processor, better cooling, multiple video interfaces (mini-displayport, full HDMI), two drive bays (SSD and high-capacity HDD) etc etc., because there isn't space. Well, look how much existing space would be freed up.
The other point is that many of us have 2+ laptops, and, a single external drive will serve most of them, since most of our drive usage is planned, and, is usually at home (e.g. watch a DVD, load some software). Likewise, for work laptops supported by IT -- they can just keep a few drives for use as needed.
Exactly. You could almost get a whole extra mainboard in if you removed the optical drive! Imagine the stuff that could be developed for that space which you would use every moment on the laptop (graphics, processor, memory, storage, increased cooling and battery = higher TDP hardware) as opposed to once in a while with the optical drive.
I really can't see a justifiable reason why optical couldn't be replaced with an external for the odd occasions it's needed.
Come on folks... Removing the optical drive would be so stupid from Apple. I guess that more than 80 % of the people using a notebook still need an optical drive.
The argument with doing backups on an hdd is absolutely nonsense. An optical drive does not only exist for backing up files. This would actually be a reason to throw out the superdrive.
But why do you think most of the software, games, movies and music is still sold on round and silver colored discs? This fact is the best indicator that optical drives are still needed.
The argument with doing backups on an hdd is absolutely nonsense. An optical drive does not only exist for backing up files. This would actually be a reason to throw out the superdrive.
But why do you think most of the software, games, movies and music is still sold on round and silver colored discs? This fact is the best indicator that optical drives are still needed.
Why would I be carrying an external optical drive with me all the time, or any significant proportion of time for that matter?
You do realize that many of us advocating the removal of the internal optical drive are not opposed to an external drive?
Why not use an external optical drive for these purposes? That is, unless you install software and watch movies all the time.
Benefits of removing the optical drive far out-weigh the continued support of the dying medium. Your guess is a pretty baseless guess. Backups on HDDs is not nonsense at all; me and about 80% of the people I work with and know outside of work have been backing up on External HDDs, NAS or home servers for over half a decade plus. Backing up on optical media is slow and inconvenient. Only time I - or anyone I know - use an optical drive anymore is to install OS X whenever that is.
Digital distribution is HUGE these days and only growing - it is no doubt the future. PC (and very soon Mac now that Steam is on the platform) Games I know for a fact are mostly bought through digital distribution systems like Steam or Direct2Drive these days.
In the last year, even console systems like the XB360 and PS3 have been offering full-versions of their games (sometimes a day or so ahead of the retail launch) available for download through their own digital distribution download services. The only thing I buy on optical media these days is blurays and DVDs; even then that's split about 50/50 between OnDemand servies on my DVR.
Just because the MacBook is created for the mobile use in general and to be an allround-machine. And surely the optical drive needs to be a part of it because imo it is still used very often.
Otherwise you could argue that they can also stop assembling the keyboard because people most of the time only need the trackpad. And if you need a keyboard you can use an external one. It is just a question of what is used and how often it is used.
And please come on - you can not tell me that the use of the optical drive is so unusual that it is not necessary anymore. Just think of all the people (designers, photographers, musicians...) who need the optical drive to share pictures or songs quickly. The thing is that the MacBook is designet to be an allround-notebook. If you want something without an optical drive just go with the Air. But for the rest of us the optical drive is still required.
edit: @DesmoPilot: I dunno but maybe this is also a matter of where we live. I am from Germany and I really think that in this case we are not so developed (developed is actually not the perfect matching word for it, maybe you can correct me please - progressive?) that the usage of digital media is that high as it is where you come from.
Furthermore I think that we have to differentiate between people with an professional usage and people who use the MacBook most of the time for entertainment, office and surfing the web. The pros definitely use the digital media more than the usual people. Maybe the usual people just want to hold the stuff they buy in their hands?
greets
Otherwise you could argue that they can also stop assembling the keyboard because people most of the time only need the trackpad. And if you need a keyboard you can use an external one. It is just a question of what is used and how often it is used.
And please come on - you can not tell me that the use of the optical drive is so unusual that it is not necessary anymore. Just think of all the people (designers, photographers, musicians...) who need the optical drive to share pictures or songs quickly. The thing is that the MacBook is designet to be an allround-notebook. If you want something without an optical drive just go with the Air. But for the rest of us the optical drive is still required.
edit: @DesmoPilot: I dunno but maybe this is also a matter of where we live. I am from Germany and I really think that in this case we are not so developed (developed is actually not the perfect matching word for it, maybe you can correct me please - progressive?
) that the usage of digital media is that high as it is where you come from. Furthermore I think that we have to differentiate between people with an professional usage and people who use the MacBook most of the time for entertainment, office and surfing the web. The pros definitely use the digital media more than the usual people. Maybe the usual people just want to hold the stuff they buy in their hands?
greets
Pretty poor comparison. Also, no, it's not only a question of how often it is used.
In fact I can tell you that use of it is unusual these days. Professionals I know have been using thumb drives and SD cards for a while now; it's way faster and you get larger storage over optical drives.
Yah, I work in graphic and media design and I extremely rarely use an optical drive. If I want to share any kind of content be it video, photography or design in the studio we use the LAN. If we want to go to a client we use a thumb drive or external hard drive - in most cases we can leave thumb drives with the client - they're cheap and easy to replace. Flash-based media and HDDs far outperform optical media in these cases - optical disks are slow to load content, loud, require constant spooling and often hang midway through browsing PDFs, videos, and well pretty much any kind of media. Using an optical disk to share professional media is madness because your content presentation goes down the drain. Likewise, showreels rarely go on DVDs- they are hosted online - every creative agency and studio is hooked onto the net, negating the need for DVDs in these cases. In the rare case an optical disk would be needed it wouldn't be in a laptop - stuff would be burned in-house on a tower. What is really needed is maximising hardware power in a small form factor which could benefit hugely from the extra space from removing a dying format.
Ok, for the professionals... But I already mentioned the pros in my last post. The usual people still need the optical drive I think. And maybe in the end it is just a matter of taste?
Anyway I am pretty happy that it is still part of it.
edit: @inertiat The MacBook Pro 13'' is not build for maximum hardware power... And if you are serious the hardware power in the smallest Pros is still pretty good. Just because they have not used the new i3? The i3 is in a lot cases slower than the C2Ds. But if there is something with a new name on the market, everyone has to own it... By the way the Core 2 Duos are really efficient and well-engineered. So if you want real hardware power go with the Mac Pros or iMacs.
Ok, for the professionals... But I already mentioned the pros in my last post. The usual people still need the optical drive I think. And maybe in the end it is just a matter of taste?
Anyway I am pretty happy that it is still part of it.
Thing is, if the "usual people" as you call them became accustomed to using the thumb drive or SD cards. They'd no doubt wonder why they weren't using them before. Faster, loads more convenient and wayy more storage.