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MacBook Pro Tomorrow (June 5, 2007) - Some Specs?
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im a silly pill up till 2:44 - more as i was addicted to my rather new futuresonics atrio m5 paired with my cowon d2 (grin) and some william gibson catch up, but 2.2 ghz processor only works on a chipset that supports 800 mhz. 2.2 is santa rosa. 2.4 is santa rosa. i know someone will have said all this before, but i state again, it is 2:45. apple are in command to dash our hopes or not; either way, i am computer-less and will be purchasing one within the week it comes out (just after barefeats and everyone reviews it for kinks) - cheers
The fact is the less asynchronous the better for performance. 1:2 ratio (166FSB:333MHz) is actually a much better ratio than 3:5 ratio (200FSB:333MHz). In terms of performance comparison, 667FSB processor with 667MHz memory actually perform better than 800FSB processor with 667MHz!
Many people will care about LED backlit as it is the next trend for new LCD standard due to power difference. 8600GT is no doubt a much powerful GPU, but not the most suitable mobile GPU until 65nm version. With high TDP for 8600GT, one would not expect a cool laptop that can last more than 3 hours of battery life.
20% faster FSB doesn't translate to 20% performance improvement, especially when we are talking about 2.33GHz/667FSB vs 2.40GHz/800FSB (same pipeline, cache size, microachitecture), we are really looking at less than 4% improvement in Sis Sandra benchmark or less than 2% improvement in real world. I'd not call 965 better chipset (at least on the mobile platform), just a newer chipset with higher TDP which produces more heat and consumes more power than 945 chipset.
LED is the biggest news - not cpu!
Many expect Santa Rosa to perform well as a mobile gaming platform due to its ability to switch between single threaded and multithreaded tasks (Wikipedia).
Well that sounds great, but the real news is the LED backlit displays (if true). That means the MBP's display will be perfect for working with graphics - the thing that only the best CRT displays does today. The colorspectrum is way better then with the fluorescent display in the current line - and the backlighting is much more even (it actually is even).
This is huge guys and girls. LED is what should get people out of their chairs, not a minor CPU update.
Many expect Santa Rosa to perform well as a mobile gaming platform due to its ability to switch between single threaded and multithreaded tasks (Wikipedia).
Well that sounds great, but the real news is the LED backlit displays (if true). That means the MBP's display will be perfect for working with graphics - the thing that only the best CRT displays does today. The colorspectrum is way better then with the fluorescent display in the current line - and the backlighting is much more even (it actually is even).
This is huge guys and girls. LED is what should get people out of their chairs, not a minor CPU update.
AI isn't saying there won't be LED. AI is saying that there will be SR (hence the 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz configurations).
ohhh, maybe I read their post that explicitly said TFT display's wrong.
Directly from AI:
2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor; 4MB shared level 2 cache
2GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300)
120GB 5400-rpm hard drive
15.4-inch (diagonal) TFT widescreen display; 1440 by 900 pixels
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 128MB of GDDR3 SDRAM
Built-in iSight video camera
Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
(etc.)
If this isn't stating NO LED, what is?!
"15.4-inch (diagonal) TFT widescreen display; 1440 by 900 pixels" (AI.com)
All I know is, somebody said earlier that TFT doesn't mean no LED. Just like an LCD monitor can be LED. LED has to do with the light source.
If there is no LED the upgrade will suck, and I'm actually afraid it will 
If they release the new MBP today Apple will still have time to release another MBP with LED display later in 2007 (say nov/dec 2007) - as stated in Steves environmental letter to Greenpeace about LED displays coming 2007.
That sucks!!!!!
If they release the new MBP today Apple will still have time to release another MBP with LED display later in 2007 (say nov/dec 2007) - as stated in Steves environmental letter to Greenpeace about LED displays coming 2007.
That sucks!!!!!
Well how about you get your facts correct and worry less about using most likely uninformed comments from other posts as facts.
Also, perhaps you would explain why an increase in processor speed would be conclusive of SR being integrated into the MBP update?
TFT = Thin-Film Transistor.
That's not backlight.
Currently the MBP screens use cold cathode fluorescent backlights.
LED backlights are different.
All flat panels use TFT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
g'night, I'm off to slumber.
Thought you'd never ask!
The current processor/chipset doesn't support speeds faster than 2.33GHz. So the fact that the purported update includes 2.4GHz CPU's means that the CPU/chipset is Santa Rosa, because that is the only possible way to get the clock speed that fast.(And I don't know much about the terminology of LCD screens, but read scrambledwonder's post above me explaining that TFT isn't referring to the backlighting.)
I know, but don't you think the specs would explicitally say if the displays used LED? Its a major salesbooster imho.
Yeah mee too, if it's really 667 Mhz FSB then that means no Santa Rosa
Well we'll see in the morning!
What makes you think that it does not have 800Mhz bus? Because the RAM is clocked at 667Mhz? What does the speed of the RAM have to do with the speed of the front-side bus? Answer: just about nothing.
Hmm, the more I look at the AI specs the more I'm convinced they are real. They seem plausible, and much up to par with the minor update the MB got last week. As I said earlier, the release of a new MBP today will give Apple the room to release a LED version in late 2007 (thats 6 months from now) - that coincides with Steve Jobs saying that we will see LED displays from Apple in 2007, and Apples normal update cycle of the MBP.
This kinda sucks - I can't wait another 6 months for the LED MBP - but that is actually the only thing I'm interested in. The speed bumps are not a big deal to me. Whether I'm able to rip a cd in 20 or 18 secs really isn't worth mentioning
This kinda sucks - I can't wait another 6 months for the LED MBP - but that is actually the only thing I'm interested in. The speed bumps are not a big deal to me. Whether I'm able to rip a cd in 20 or 18 secs really isn't worth mentioning
modest speed upgrades... hey, at least we can still feel all warm and fuzzy remembering the days of PPC speed boosts
These are the fastest mobile-CPU Intel has to offer.
Hmm, the more I look at the AI specs the more I'm convinced they are real. They seem plausible, and much up to par with the minor update the MB got last week. As I said earlier, the release of a new MBP today will give Apple the room to release a LED version in late 2007 (thats 6 months from now) - that coincides with Steve Jobs saying that we will see LED displays from Apple in 2007, and Apples normal update cycle of the MBP.
This kinda sucks - I can't wait another 6 months for the LED MBP - but that is actually the only thing I'm interested in. The speed bumps are not a big deal to me. Whether I'm able to rip a cd in 20 or 18 secs really isn't worth mentioning
They aren't exact, because the new 17" (at least) DOES have an LED backlit screen with a 1900x1200 resolution standard. That's directly from internal. If you don't want to trust me as a source, then check apple.com for yourself tomorrow morning.
They aren't exact, because the new 17" (at least) DOES have an LED backlit screen with a 1900x1200 resolution standard. That's directly from internal. If you don't want to trust me as a source, then check apple.com for yourself tomorrow morning.
That seems dubious since 15" is the only payable LED backlit display. I didn't see your post earlier about the 17" - if you are right that will be awsome though! Perhaps LED displays will be a BTO option as Dell does it. Just like now where you can choose between glossy or matte display.
They aren't exact, because the new 17" (at least) DOES have an LED backlit screen with a 1900x1200 resolution standard. That's directly from internal. If you don't want to trust me as a source, then check apple.com for yourself tomorrow morning.
Sweet... are the 15"'s gonna have LED's also? Do you know anything about the GPU's?
(Yes, I am trying to milk you for all you're worth
)They aren't exact, because the new 17" (at least) DOES have an LED backlit screen with a 1900x1200 resolution standard. That's directly from internal. If you don't want to trust me as a source, then check apple.com for yourself tomorrow morning.
check it i will, and i hope your right
remember tho some leaks from 'apple internal' are fakes.