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MacBook Pro Tomorrow (June 5, 2007) - Some Specs?
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When you have a part number (e.g. MA610LL/A) you know its more than just your average rumour.
That's pretty much what I was looking for: SR & updated graphics & larger hard drive standard (looking at high end 15.4"). An LED backlit LCD would be nice, but for me its not worth waiting any longer for. It was more along the lines of a nice surprise.
I'm glad I waited a month.
it has a picture of a laptop + iPod nano on those boxes in the middle of the screen. Try to re-open see if you see it...
It's HAPPENING!!!1
It links to my current education site. Wonder where that is... No promo there yet though.
It links to my current education site. Wonder where that is... No promo there yet though.
I already have my Apple Education store in my cookies. It takes me there.
If they redesign the case to include a user replaceable hard drive, then this upgrade will be pretty much perfect.
Okay, I'm being kind of a jerk in these responses, but geez, they're so random. Where were you guys when the Macbook got it's "upgrade"? Or were you defending THAT while slamming an actual upgrade?
The 7600GT approached twice as fast as the dirt-slow x1600. The 8600 is in a whole different league. It's not the most powerful mobile GPU out there in raw power (that would be the 7950GTX), but it's close to as good as it gets for a laptop, and of course it supports Direct X 10 level features.
667MHz RAM *is* the fast stuff. Many *DESKTOPS* ship with slower.
Then you need to triple check the specs, when you'll realize it's about as big of an upgrade as Apple could have possibly done. It's the exact opposite of the Macbook "upgrade".
In the first place, it's a whole new platform. Faster CPUs, new chipset, 64-bit support, etc. But even if it was just a new GPU-we're going from LAST YEAR'S low end GPU to THIS YEAR'S mid range model. So yes, that's worth it.
Wrong. Performance on the 8600GT wastes the 7600GT across the board, and adds DX 10 class support on top of that. The 7600GT already wasted the Radeon x1600...so yes, this is a huge GPU upgrade.
Close to as good as it gets for a notebook. Only the 7950GTX flat out beats it (but lacks DX 10). The 7900GS probably beats it in some things, loses in others, but is also a DX 10 part, so overall the 8600GT is arguably a better choice.
Why would you expect a price drop OR leopard? Leopard is October. And prices have been consistent for several generations of systems.
Your feeling goes against every rumor that's been presented for months now.
No it doesn't. It's better than the Macbook, if that's the form factor you want. Dell's year old e1705 and M1710, and apparently all the Macbook Pros destroy Dell's new 13" if you care about performance or screen real estate.
Bus and RAM speeds haven't been kept synchronous for years. And I'd rather have the better performance that comes from the faster bus, than an arbitrary ratio between the two.
If the upgrades are as good as the rumors say, than only idiots will be saying thigns like that. The Macbook got tons of negative posts because it was a pathetic 160MHz speed bump, with nothing else to distinguish it.
All the rumors say we are getting the new chipsets and CPU.
No, Santa Rosa (or at least the important pieces of it) is here TODAY, if every rumor, and common sense, is correct.
And who on EARTH would want an OLED display!?! That's nuts. Those things are cheap garbage. Using them on a $40 MP3 player might make sense. Using them on a $2000-3000 laptop? I don't think so!
Umm...yeah. A chipset launching in Q1 of 2008 is better than one launched Q2 2007...am I supposed to be shocked by that?
And again I have to say...huh? If this upgrade is true, then it encompasses basically everything we've wanted (except possibly for a case design that allows user replaceable hard drives).
Huh? If the rumored specs are true, the gap just got a lot wider between the Macbook and Pro.
No, try tomorrow morning. They don't update at midnight.
Even if that's true...who cares!?! On a power/performance basis, the 8600GT destoys the x1600. Plus, can it be underclocked when on battery? Or will a possible LED backlit screen make up the difference in power?
You're totally ignoring the almost 20% fast FSB! Not to mention the better chipset, etc.
Okay, I'm being kind of a jerk in these responses, but geez, they're so random. Where were you guys when the Macbook got it's "upgrade"? Or were you defending THAT while slamming an actual upgrade?
The 7600GT approached twice as fast as the dirt-slow x1600. The 8600 is in a whole different league. It's not the most powerful mobile GPU out there in raw power (that would be the 7950GTX), but it's close to as good as it gets for a laptop, and of course it supports Direct X 10 level features.
What I don't get though, is why they don't use 800Mhz RAM? Is it just too expensive? (Apple never seemed to have a problem with that in the past
667MHz RAM *is* the fast stuff. Many *DESKTOPS* ship with slower.
Then you need to triple check the specs, when you'll realize it's about as big of an upgrade as Apple could have possibly done. It's the exact opposite of the Macbook "upgrade".
In the first place, it's a whole new platform. Faster CPUs, new chipset, 64-bit support, etc. But even if it was just a new GPU-we're going from LAST YEAR'S low end GPU to THIS YEAR'S mid range model. So yes, that's worth it.
Wrong. Performance on the 8600GT wastes the 7600GT across the board, and adds DX 10 class support on top of that. The 7600GT already wasted the Radeon x1600...so yes, this is a huge GPU upgrade.
Close to as good as it gets for a notebook. Only the 7950GTX flat out beats it (but lacks DX 10). The 7900GS probably beats it in some things, loses in others, but is also a DX 10 part, so overall the 8600GT is arguably a better choice.
Why would you expect a price drop OR leopard? Leopard is October. And prices have been consistent for several generations of systems.
Your feeling goes against every rumor that's been presented for months now.
No it doesn't. It's better than the Macbook, if that's the form factor you want. Dell's year old e1705 and M1710, and apparently all the Macbook Pros destroy Dell's new 13" if you care about performance or screen real estate.
Bus and RAM speeds haven't been kept synchronous for years. And I'd rather have the better performance that comes from the faster bus, than an arbitrary ratio between the two.
If the upgrades are as good as the rumors say, than only idiots will be saying thigns like that. The Macbook got tons of negative posts because it was a pathetic 160MHz speed bump, with nothing else to distinguish it.
All the rumors say we are getting the new chipsets and CPU.
No, Santa Rosa (or at least the important pieces of it) is here TODAY, if every rumor, and common sense, is correct.
And who on EARTH would want an OLED display!?! That's nuts. Those things are cheap garbage. Using them on a $40 MP3 player might make sense. Using them on a $2000-3000 laptop? I don't think so!
someone who's name I missed said:
Umm...yeah. A chipset launching in Q1 of 2008 is better than one launched Q2 2007...am I supposed to be shocked by that?
And again I have to say...huh? If this upgrade is true, then it encompasses basically everything we've wanted (except possibly for a case design that allows user replaceable hard drives).
Huh? If the rumored specs are true, the gap just got a lot wider between the Macbook and Pro.
No, try tomorrow morning. They don't update at midnight.
Even if that's true...who cares!?! On a power/performance basis, the 8600GT destoys the x1600. Plus, can it be underclocked when on battery? Or will a possible LED backlit screen make up the difference in power?
You're totally ignoring the almost 20% fast FSB! Not to mention the better chipset, etc.
It's right on the front page of the iTMS, but it's just a link to the front page of the Apple Store since they haven't updated the Apple Store with the new Back to School '07 promo material yet.
AppleInsider says 120GB HD...that's less than the standard blackbook
i don't know if anything is coming out tomorrow morning, or if it will be WWDC, but one thing I know for sure is there is no way they're releasing a smaller harddrive in the pro that the blackbook.
hence, i declare BS on AppleInsider's part
i don't know if anything is coming out tomorrow morning, or if it will be WWDC, but one thing I know for sure is there is no way they're releasing a smaller harddrive in the pro that the blackbook.
hence, i declare BS on AppleInsider's part
Here's a screen. I had to restart iTunes to get it. Note the orange square area near the top of iTunes... It fades from a Paul McCartney ad to that orange, then stops there. A pending update, methinks.
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The 4 GB model should be free. Followed by a $199 discount on anything above it.
Yes, I'm still quietly hoping but its already met the bar for me and I'm trying not to experience the disappointment. I'm happy as-is... if its LED backlit, then its a total home-run for me. Even without that, as listed in the AI note its what I was looking for.