Which is actually why it's annoying. Previous Core 2 Duo had up to 35W TDP while the 9400M chipset consumes up to another 12W and the 9600M GT 23W for a total of 70W. Now Arrandale is 35W while the southbridge is 3.5W. So given the same chassis/thermal design that can handle up to 70W TDP, that leaves 31.5W TDP for a discrete GPU. Apple would want some of that for longer battery life no doubt, but that still means Apple could easily accommodate a 25-30W TDP GPU with little redesign required. If they are using the GT216, then they are leaving performance on the table. Otherwise marketed as extending battery life, which realistically probably isn't true since most users could just stick to the IGP on battery anyways which ensures max battery life regardless of discrete GPU choice.
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MacBook Pro Updates Imminent (Really), Part Numbers Appear
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12:13 am. apple.com = "iPad is here". I am not pleased.
I thought it was midnight for PST?
If he works for any other company than Apple, he's pretty much in the clear I think. The problem is that I'm also an Apple Technician, but I don't think anyone on my company has recieved any information at all about new MBPs. So I don't know how reliable that information is. I'm still waiting for some good news, like everyone else.
Yes, but you don't have a direct link to leaking pre release info with another link to your personal life(Twitter) which confirms your status with appl. Oh well, I wouldn't think apple CEOs scan macrumors forums to weed out apple employees. That gave me a pretty good laugh but he should be fine...
When do Apple usually update the store? Midnight?12:13 am. apple.com = "iPad is here". I am not pleased.
http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/NOTEBOOK/GRAPHICS/ATI-MOBILITY-HD-5700/Pages/hd-5650-specs.aspxQuick Spec Comparison:
Speeds & Feeds
Engine clock speed: 450-650 MHz
Processing power (single precision): 360-520 GigaFLOPS
Polygon throughput: 450-650M polygons/sec
Data fetch rate (32-bit): 36-52 billion fetches/sec
Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 9-13 Gigatexels/sec
Pixel fill rate: 3.6-5.2 Gigapixels/sec
Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 14.4-20.8 Gigasamples/sec
Memory clock speed: 800 MHz DDR3/GDDR3
Memory data rate: 1.6 Gbps DDR3/GDDR3
Memory bandwidth: 25.6 GB/sec
TDP: 15-19 Watts
And comparing to the HD5650 shows what we might be missing. Notably a generally faster GPU with even lower power consumption. Something like the HD5750 or HD5830 at 25W and 24W TDP respectively would completely blow any GT216 based GPU away.
I guess there's still hope until the thing is actually released. A GT216 based GPU would be amazing on the 13" MacBook Pro, although it's doubtful the diagram corresponds due to the presence of both audio line in and out as discrete jacks whereas the 13" MBP only has one unless it's been redesigned.
Why is Apple so clingy to nVidia about laptop GPUs? Its not like Optimus is avaliable to them yet anyway.
I am new to the forum, I was forced into buying a new MBP due to fiscal year budgets, and that was about a week ago, and the order has been delay and the confirmation status says that it will not ship until or before the 15th. I was not aware of new MBP when ordered, but this seemed odd since they say they ship in 24hr on website.
Been reading at lot of forums and such when I learned of a possible update, and worried that I would get old one. Just wanted to see what people think, and thought maybe this would shed a little light on the situation.
Been reading at lot of forums and such when I learned of a possible update, and worried that I would get old one. Just wanted to see what people think, and thought maybe this would shed a little light on the situation.
I'm guessing nVidia mobile GPUs were priced very cheaply compared to ATI alternatives. If Blu-ray drives are standard, then at least the savings went somewhere customer facing instead of just Apple's profit margin.
Interestingly, Sony was able to fit the top end Arrandale Core i7 620M with the GT330M and 4 64GB SSDs in a RAID0 setup all in a 13" notebook that is 1.3" thick. The SONY VAIO VPCZ11Z9E still gets more than 5 hrs battery life in light use. The MacBook Pro will no doubt get better battery life, but it looks like we need a 15" chassis to fit similar hardware and still be slower since you don't have the 4xSSD in RAID.
Seeing it is Apple and it's spotlight, I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia pulled out all the stops to keep maintain the MacBook Pro contract. I don't know what that could entail though. Perhaps guaranteed access to Fermi supplies for the Mac Pro refresh, which would be useful for Apple since Fermi should be an OpenCL monster.
Usually they won't have any warning of a possible update because they want to get rid of as much of the few stocks of "old" MBPs they have left. I assume you purchased from Apple? If you did you can return the MBP you ordered provided you don't open the box. I'm not sure what the policy is on built-to-order MBPs though
They won't update at midnight. The update (if it does happen) will probably be in the morning.
Yes, did get it from apple. Have seen on some other comments on possibility of it being the new MBP(assuming it does come out soon), what are the chances of that?
If new ones come out on Tuesday and yours ships within 48 hours after that; it's a new one.