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Haaaaang on. Are we really saying that the 13 inch won't get updated with the rest of the models? Won't this leave it incredibly far behind?
I believe the last 13" MacBook update came three months after the last update for the larger sizes. So no, just upgrading the 15" and 17" models wouldn't do anything to the 13" model's status.
 
You have a really good point. The virus problem is my big turn off from PCs as well. But we're both mac users. On the flip side, those students currently using PCs don't have a great incentive to try out Apple.

MacBook white is a great incentive for, I think, just $899 at the student store. Its a great starting point in mac with full OSX expirience, plus you get a free iPod Touch...
 
I was never expecting Apple's price points to come down in the next refresh since that doesn't happen that often. $1799 for the entry level 15" MacBook Pro is a $100 price increase. For me, I'll have to see if Apple meaningfully is using more expensive hardware than the previous generation. Something like an IPS screen, higher performance class GPU or maybe bigger battery would do it. Although being in Canada with the dollar now at parity, if Apple is finally offering Canada-US price parity at $1799 then that'll already eat the price difference since the current entry level 15" $1699 model sells for $1799 in Canada.

LOL, don't count on it. Not an Apple thing, just a commercial product thing in general. Dell was the closest company to ever doing this, and even with the dollar at parity last time, things were still 5-10% more expensive up here :(
 
I've had the same macbook pro for 4 years now. I want a new one, but this one still does everything i want or need it too, and still does it fast. No wonder apple has to keep raising the prices; nobody will buy new computers when their old ones are still good.
 
Does anyone have experience with buying old models from the refurb store after the new ones come out?

I ask because I'm an incredibly poor university student, but I need a MBP because of my major (internet technology/graphic design). I've been waiting for the refresh to get one, but if the price points shown here are accurate, I just can't afford it. Has anyone bought an old model from the Apple store or another reputable dealer after a refresh?
If Apple announced a new computer tomorrow, it would most likely be priced similarly to a new computer today. They aren't gonna slash $300 with their new product announcement, whenever that would be.

Apple refurbs are a very wise choice since the warranty is the same as that of a new product.
 
The Mac Pro is way overdue for an update, as is the MB Air.
The strange thing is the Mac Pro should have been the easiest update seeing that Gulftown is a drop in replacement for Bloomfield. I'm guessing Apple was waiting on Fermi to finally be available as a high-end GPU option. Perhaps the GTX470 which will probably be less availability constrained and thermally crazy. Although you'd think Apple would through ATI a bone and use the 2GB HD5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition as the high-end GPU option seeing that ATI adopted not 1 miniDP connector but 6 of them in the card. Combine that with finally getting a well timed Apple Display refresh, despite all the iPad publicity, I think Steve Jobs wouldn't hesitate to say 6 refreshed 30" or larger Apple Displays with thin bezels on a Eyefinity 6 Mac Pro is "magical".

It's already been rumoured that Apple was buying up large inventories of the ATI Radeon HD5750 so that could be the low-end GPU option. Although it's a strange choice because while it can be made single slot, it's doubtful to be purely PCIe connector powered to making it difficult to offer multi-card options. I always pegged the nVidia GT240 as the optimal low-end GPU option. The HD5750 is also a bit slow as a middle GPU option in the Mac Pro if Apple wanted to start offering one.
 
No easy way for me to consolidate the issues in a quick forum posting here. Go read the SEC filings for AAPL over the past five years.

Students already get a break via educational discounting. A couple of percent in gross margin does make a difference.

If you want a bigger discount, ask Steve, not me.

Hey bud, while I'm sure everyone is very impressed with you being an AAPL shareholder (you having mentioned it about 85 times today), which you and anyone else with a spare $242 could claim. I would like to speak up and say that I don't think AAPL is doing enough marketing/incentivizing to students and educators.

Educators that teach on Macs have students that will.. you guessed it, learn on and end up buying Macs (in theory anyway). Giving, as I think you put it "poor college students", a break on Macs increases the likelihood that when they grow up, hopefully graduate college, make some money and then keep buying your products -- and probably the more expensive ones. Giving a student $100 on a $1000 laptop is indeed a short-term hit, but one that will almost certainly get recovered when they come back around to buy that $2000 laptop, an iPhone, an iPad and those little anti-glare scratch protection screens in a few years when they graduate. So I say, give them more of a break on prices now, get them hooked and have a customer for life!

So, as a fellow AAPL shareholder :), I would like to say that I fully support Apple doing whatever is necessary to make sure that not only are we making money today, that we haven't alienated the people we are going to be selling to tomorrow. Indoctrinate them all, now!

Take a look at the tobacco industry, who do you think they are really marketing to... children or adults? And yes, I own PM stock too...
 
But all the 13 inch pros are out of stock everywhere.

You're overlooking what seems obvious. If they're out of stock everywhere and they don't seem to be getting an update then the seemingly simplest explanation is that they're getting rid of them.

edit: I assume you're talking about the 13-inch MBP and not just the MB.
 
You're overlooking what seems obvious. If they're out of stock everywhere and they don't seem to be getting an update then the seemingly simplest explanation is that they're getting rid of them.

I dont't think Apple will get rid of the 13" MBP, but it may be more challenging to update it without a UB refresh...
 
Hey bud, while I'm sure everyone is very impressed with you being an AAPL shareholder (you having mentioned it about 85 times today), which you and anyone else with a spare $242 could claim. I would like to speak up and say that I don't think AAPL is doing enough marketing/incentivizing to students and educators.

Educators that teach on Macs have students that will.. you guessed it, learn on and end up buying Macs (in theory anyway). Giving, as I think you put it "poor college students", a break on Macs increases the likelihood that when they grow up, hopefully graduate college, make some money and then keep buying your products -- and probably the more expensive ones. Giving a student $100 on a $1000 laptop is indeed a short-term hit, but one that will almost certainly get recovered when they come back around to buy that $2000 laptop, an iPhone, an iPad and those little anti-glare scratch protection screens in a few years when they graduate. So I say, give them more of a break on prices now, get them hooked and have a customer for life!
How do most people afford these things? :confused:
 
Surely they couldn't be getting rid of them. Surely. Arn? Care to weigh in on this.
Though, yes, this is the simplest explanation.
 
I dont't think Apple will get rid of the 13" MBP, but it may be more challenging to update it without a UB refresh...

Since the regular MB is already superior to the 13-inch MBP they may just go back to the MBP being 15- and 17-inch only.
 
See how everyone still has something to complain about when nothing happened yet. When new MBPs come out possibly with arrandale, everyone is gonna **** on jobs for not doing something with the 13'' MBP. There is a 13'' MB if that meets your needs. You think you need a pro but you don't. If you insist, then you're a damn amateur.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath even after this post. Last time I got my hope up, we got Aperture 3.
 
How do most people afford these things? :confused:
Most people don't want to buy this stuff.

Apple sells premium products to a clientele that has far more disposable income than Joe Average. That's one reason why AAPL is through the roof.

Since you don't seem to understand, Apple's ongoing business model is to dominate the premium price point of any category that they participate in. They own something like 90% of premium home computing category (i.e., computers over $1000).

If you want to buy this stuff and you can't, you should buy AAPL and wait a while.

If you had invested $1200 into AAPL the last time the MacBook Pro was updated (June 2009), you would have nearly $2500, enough for a 17" MacBook Pro tomorrow.

I'm sure that AAPL isn't the best investment on the market, so don't follow my advice. Go do your own research and find where the best place for your money is, but be aware that many of us know that Mac ownership doesn't require winning that g-ddamn lottery.
 
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