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I think the real question is do many of us even need a new one?? or just the fact its new we will buy it??? Either way we find out soon enough if they are coming out.. hope they include i3-i7's. wondering what GPU this time considering that drama with NVIDIA. Oh the 9400gpu did its job if i wanna play games ill use the PS3. Just hope Oz doesnt get over priced again.
 
I don't know many real "professionals" who need professional-grade computers who would use the MacBook Pro. Especially in certain varieties like a 13"/15" without dedicated GPU, a Pro without even an ExpressCard slot, and a display without a great high resolution option... there are more reasons, but there's a good start.

You are horribly misguided if you think that professionals don't use MacBook Pros.

I use my computer professionally and I have an MBP. So do tons of other people.

Even if you meant graphics professionals, I know of some. The photographer who just did my daughter's photo session uses an MBP with Adobe CS3.
 
Prices might not be too high yet, but if the trend continues Apple will lose its college/high school student market. We're about to owe thousands of dollars to a university, we can't afford price gouging from Apple too.
You aren't Apple's target market.

Your parents are.

As an AAPL shareholder, I don't want their margins eroded by catering to broke college kids. Sorry, I realize that's brutal truth, but that's the way it is.

When you're all growed up and have some bucks, buy some shares of AAPL. Or ask your parents now for a sh*tty netbook and three shares of AAPL.
 
Thanks arn. We needed some humor on this subject. :rolleyes:

No humor. The part numbers are real Apple part numbers for upcoming MacBook Pros. Hence, MacBook Pros coming, really, really soon. What else is there to say?

arn
 
I think the real question is do many of us even need a new one?? or just the fact its new we will buy it??? ...
My wife's 3-year old HP no longer holds a charge for more than 5 minutes and she's managed to foul up the power jack on her motherboard on top of that. I'm still on an 8-year old dual 1GHz G4 tower (although I'd love to pick up a new Mini too later this year).

It's not so much a want for us.
 
You aren't Apple's target market.

Your parents are.

As an AAPL shareholder, I don't want their margins eroded by catering to broke college kids. Sorry, I realize that's brutal truth, but that's the way it is.

When you're all growed up and have some bucks, buy some shares of AAPL. Or ask your parents now for a sh*tty netbook and three shares of AAPL.

Funny, I don't see Apple hosting "Back to work" offers. It's always "Back to school" from what I've seen. Students are a HUGE market for apple...case in point, education is the first link for potential buyers on the macbook main page.
 
No humor. The part numbers are real Apple part numbers for upcoming MacBook Pros. Hence, MacBook Pros coming, really, really soon. What else is there to say?

arn
I guess it was more appropriate to be serious than light hearted for once.

This update means a lot given the change in architecture from Core 2. We'll finally get our answers.

In addition, ULV Core i5/i7 looks like it's going to arrive much sooner than previous estimates. Q3 2010 was being tossed around earlier given the lack of demand. It'd definitely give hardware vendors a chance to slash and sell off remaining Core 2 ULV and CULV parts. CULV looks like it might hang around for much longer. Then again Core 2 is showing up as EOL. Those Penryn cores are getting old.
 
Blu-ray utilizes VC-1, not H.264



Pixels cannot be created nor destroyed. Upscaling DVD players only apply special filters to make the image look better. Also, the quality between an upscaled DVD vs a Blu-ray disc is like night and day. 7 Gb of artificially upscaled ancient MPEG-2 vs 50 Gb of native high-efficiency VC-1 makes quite the difference on-screen.

Actually, BD supports MPEG 2 (for legacy), VC-1, and H.264 AVC High Profile.

http://www.netblender.com/main/resources/wikipapers/avc-for-blu-ray-encoding/

According to the link above, H.264 AVC is about twice as popular for BD production as VC-1. A bonus for BD players is that AVCHD can be included for flash and harddrive 1080i/p consumer video. I have an SD slot in my Panasonic BD-80 player for 1080P video playback created on a Pansonic SD-100.
 
Forget Blu-Ray, I want a MacBook with a VHS slot, never seen that done before, they could call it revolutionary ;)
 
You are horribly misguided if you think that professionals don't use MacBook Pros.

I use my computer professionally and I have an MBP. So do tons of other people.

Even if you meant graphics professionals, I know of some. The photographer who just did my daughter's photo session uses an MBP with Adobe CS3.

You didn't even READ my post. I said professionals WHO NEED A PROFESSIONAL GRADE COMPUTER! I stand by that fully. I know many people that use MBPs, but most don't use them for anything like "professional-grade" computing.
 
No humor. The part numbers are real Apple part numbers for upcoming MacBook Pros. Hence, MacBook Pros coming, really, really soon. What else is there to say?

arn

But could be faked... we could get more "really" threads, ha ha.
 
I think the real question is do many of us even need a new one?? or just the fact its new we will buy it??? Either way we find out soon enough if they are coming out.. hope they include i3-i7's. wondering what GPU this time considering that drama with NVIDIA. Oh the 9400gpu did its job if i wanna play games ill use the PS3. Just hope Oz doesnt get over priced again.

I've never owned a Mac, but am required to buy one for my upcoming school year. I likely wouldn't be buying a mac if I didn't have to, although that's more of a personal choice than any sort of disdain towards Mac products.
 
You aren't Apple's target market.

Your parents are.

As an AAPL shareholder, I don't want their margins eroded by catering to broke college kids. Sorry, I realize that's brutal truth, but that's the way it is.

When you're all growed up and have some bucks, buy some shares of AAPL. Or ask your parents now for a sh*tty netbook and three shares of AAPL.

I'm just wondering, in what way does keeping current prices, lowering their profit margin by a miniscule amount, and gaining THOUSANDS of more student buyers willing to spend their money at apple degrade their shares? Forgive my youthful ignorance, but it seems this would actually help their shares and improve their view in the public eye, drawing in even more adult buyers. And lets dispense with the personal attacks, its just my opinion. Last I checked, expressing your opinion was the point of a forum...
 
Does anyone have experience with buying old models from the refurb store after the new ones come out?

I ask because I'm an incredibly poor university student, but I need a MBP because of my major (internet technology/graphic design). I've been waiting for the refresh to get one, but if the price points shown here are accurate, I just can't afford it. Has anyone bought an old model from the Apple store or another reputable dealer after a refresh?
 
Even if Apple can't or doesn't want to work out the licensing for Blu-ray video it would still be great if they included Blu-ray drives for data usage. Internet app/game purchasing may be getting more popular but downloading multi-gigabyte programs is still not always fast or convenient especially for people with bandwidth caps. Apple was quick to offer DVD readers across the entire Mac product line early on, which meant Mac developers could quickly switch to DVD only distribution when programs started overflowing onto multiple CDs, whereas on Windows, developers had to offer both DVD and multi-CD versions which is more expensive. Many games and some program suites, including some of Apple's own professional applications, are already requiring multiple DVDs. The faster Apple starts to offer at least Blu-ray data disc readers across their product line, the faster the installed base grows and the faster program distribution can simplify onto single Blu-ray disc instead of multiple DVDs.

I'm hoping for ATI Mobility HD5000 series GPUs, preferably at least the HD5750 since it has GDDR5. I don't find Optimus a good enough justification to use nVidia's now older generation mobile GPUs, regardless of rebranding, since I and I'm thinking most users would find the IGP sufficient while on battery anyways since Intel's Arrandale IGP can handle H.264 acceleration, Flash acceleration, and even light OpenCL acceleration assuming the relevant parties cared enough to write Mac drivers for these features. Also IPS screens, Firewire 3200, and a flush SD slot would be nice. I'm not expecting USB 3.0 since that requires a dedicated chip which Apple may be reluctant to spare motherboard space for. For CPUs, I'm not expecting quad core Clarksfield's given the high power consumption and heat and low clockspeeds. The common Core i7 720QM can only Turbo Boost to a theoretical 2.4GHz in dual core mode, the most common use case for most users, while the similarly priced dual core Core i7 620M can Turbo Boost up to 3.06GHz with 2 cores. So for most users and use cases, dual core Arrandale will be faster than quad core Clarksfield. Even in well threaded applications, with almost 2 times the Turbo Boost clock speed, the Core i7 620M won't be far behind a fully utilized Core i7 720QM. I'm hoping that Apple convinced Intel to give them some limited volume higher clock speed Arrandale's for a BTO option to help mitigate complaints about lack of quad cores, say a 2.93GHz Arrandale (3.33GHz 2 core Turbo Boost, 3.6GHz single core Turbo), while maintaining the same 35W TDP rating.
 
You aren't Apple's target market.

Your parents are.

As an AAPL shareholder, I don't want their margins eroded by catering to broke college kids. Sorry, I realize that's brutal truth, but that's the way it is.

When you're all growed up and have some bucks, buy some shares of AAPL. Or ask your parents now for a sh*tty netbook and three shares of AAPL.

Funny, I don't see Apple hosting "Back to work" offers. It's always "Back to school" from what I've seen. Students are a HUGE market for apple...case in point, education is the first link for potential buyers on the macbook main page.

Back to school, but the parents are paying...:p
 
So, this 4 are MBA and not MBP?

Maybe they are morphing all MBP models into MBAs. No more MBP whatsoever, only MB and MBA.

They are clearly taking the "personal computer" out of their products in favor of strictly controlled applications that favor corporate media. It's all good right now, but it will soon suck badly for anyone who likes actual computing and not jogging around the city with U2/Nike-approved iPods.
 
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