MacBook Pro Updates Still to Come, But What Can We Expect?

[timeandspace]

I think Haswell worth the wait

I noticed that alot of people are waiting for Haswell, intels new processor that claims "the biggest performance improvement ever in battery life," perhaps it's worth waiting until it comes out?

Having read this article and the one below I think it's worth the wait.

See a related article here:http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/13/4426360/massive-battery-life-killer-graphics-can-intels-haswell-deliver-on

 

[Ifti]

Once I sell my current MacBook I'll buy a 11" max spec Air to keep me going and replace my iPad, then I'll pick up a max spec 15" Retina bad boy when the new ones are released!

 

[Chupa Chupa]

update the **** **** non-rMBPs you dicks. If I want to perform electronic music live I don't want to have to tote around a $3500 retina macbook pro and if I want to not pay the insane markup on the hardware I should be able to risk actually working on my own computer. You don't own it once I buy it, as much as you want to.

Quite an intellectual, well crafted, & persuasive opening sentence. :roll eyes:

Apple hasn't updated the rMBPs yet so no chance of it updating the non-rMBPs until that happens. But now that we've seen the new MP Apple's course could not be clearer. Optical and physical drives are out. So I it seems the odds of Apple updating the non rMPBs is somewhere close to Charles Manson being released for good behavior.

Even PC laptops are becoming more closed everyday as consumers pine for lighter and thinner ones. (Actually, consumers are not really are not pining for laptops anymore, so more like trying to stave off plummeting sales). I understand the baseline of your thought. We both grew up in an era where you popped the top and did upgrades yourself. But that's not the modern way. Not with cars, not with computers, not with anything that uses a battery. Learn to love it or drop it. Those are your realistic choices.

Personally, I don't understand why toting around a $3500 laptop is such a big deal. Pro photographers carry around much more than that in equipment, even if it's just a wedding party. Heck that's close to what a decent body alone costs.

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I noticed that alot of people are waiting for Haswell, intels new processor that claims "the biggest performance improvement ever in battery life," perhaps it's worth waiting until it comes out?

Always worth it when you are this close to an update. There are those that when the Haswell updates finally arrive will say they are waiting for the next Intel iteration. Those are the hopeless ones that can never be satiated because they always desire what is coming, not what is in front of them.

 

[gnasher729]

well, the asus 4k 31" display was just announced a week ago.. at 3799$
but i can't imagine apple to sell a display anywhere around that price.

Do you mean "can't imagine apple to sell a display that expensive" or "can't imagine apple to sell a display that cheap" ?

I think total sales numbers would be too low for quite a while to make this an Apple product, I'd think Apple buys two or three to make sure their hardware / software works properly with it, that's all.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Hence this website is called Macrumors not Mactruth

Speaking to the wrong guy.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Anybody think the MacBook Pros either this summer or eventually will receive the same black aluminum look as the Mac Pro?

I personally think it would look really cool! Don't get me wrong, the current design is beautiful and timeless, but I'd still be excited to see something new!

Yes, and they will be round!

 

[Chupa Chupa]

During the keynote they did make it a point to say "third-party" 4K display. They could have left out "third-party" but they didn't. In fact, they said it and put it on the slides. So I'm not sure if that'll be out this year, and as such I don't know if there's really a huge need to put TB2 right away. Besides, the rMBPs with Ivy Bridge don't have TB2 either.

1) Sorry for any confusion... If I implied TB2 would be included to support the monitor's 4K capability, I didn't mean too. I meant it would replace the current FW800 port. So where the current ACD has one FW800 and one TB, the next will have 2 TB2.

2) I would expect the next ACD to match the ports on the MP otherwise what point is there for MP buyers to buy one? The new MP has TB2 and USB3 which is why I predict the ACD will match these ports. The current ACD is woefully outdated. I can't see them pushing out an update with the same TB1 hub. Eventually all Macs next year will get TB2, but Apple needs a monitor to sell with the MP or it might as well just exit that business like it did with other peripherals. (Maybe that is the plan too, but I think it needs a monitor if just for show).

 

[SurfSpirit]

yayy

I am going to wast my bank account in a ultra expensive MacBook Air notebook that I will get for 3 times less and will be more useful for really studies! Yuppiii!!!

 

[gnasher729]

I am going to wast my bank account in a ultra expensive MacBook Air notebook that I will get for 3 times less and will be more useful for really studies! Yuppiii!!!

Could you translate that into a language that I can understand?

 

[mabaker]

Hopefully they will not phase out the models with SuperDrives. I know they will, but they shouldn't.

 

[gnasher729]

Hopefully they will not phase out the models with SuperDrives. I know they will, but they shouldn't.

Well... there is a 1.5 TB hard drive out now that would fit into the space of a superdrive. That, an external drive, a button that slurps in the contents of a DVD and stores it on the hard drive, with an app that lets you _pretend_ you had inserted the DVD into your computer... that would be much better. (Shipping DVDs on memory sticks would be an idea as well - don't know how cheap / expensive that could be done. )

Yes, I still need an optical drive. I need _one_ in my household. Not one in every laptop. (On the other hand, when I tried to explain to some people that they didn't actually have to download music to play it on their iPod, but could just take their collection of CDs and plug it into their computer, one after the other, they literally stood there with mouths wide open. They couldn't grasp the idea. )

 

[Aetles]

Nothing like making up rumors that then people take as fact and get pissed when they're not released with those features.

If we were to believe the rumors then the iPhone would have a 6" screen, built-in projector, 3D screen, wireless charging, NFC and much more.

You make it sound like all rumors are made up and wrong. Still, we knew very much about what WWDC would bring since a lot of rumors where true. Looking back at the rumors from last year almost every hardware release was backup up by correct rumors, including the iPad mini and larger screen on iPhone 5. The closer you get to production and distribution of hardware the more correct the rumors are.

In fact, if people would have been paying closer attention to the rumors days before WWDC they would have been aware that the MBPr was not as likely as the MBA since 9to5Mac had received SKU:s for what appeared to be the MBA and likely updated AirPort products. These kind of rumors from 9to5Mac are usually correct.

So don't bash on people for listening to rumors, it's the ability to separate which ones are to be trusted and which ones are not. Yes, there's the wrong and the made up rumors out there as well, but that does not make all rumors bad.

 

[SurfSpirit]

Tanslation

Could you translate that into a language that I can understand?

Vou já gastar a minha conta bancária por um Macbook Air quando consigo arranjar hardware semelhante 3 vezes mais barato! Yayy!!!

Better now?

 

[samac92]

Um the "classic" MBP does have a spinning HDD. The retina's have flash HDs.

Google it, Einstein.

Do ALL MB Pros come with SSDs ?.?.?.....
Your comment sounds like it has come from 2023

No Mate not all the macbook pros have flash the retina display ones have ssd the normal pros have 5400rpm

I should have been more clear, this article is talking about retina macbook pro updates, which all have flash storage. The article states that the old macbook pros probably won't be updated.

 

[steve-p]

I just want a 17" - I don't know what I'm gonna do in a year or two when my current one gets too old.

Same here. The 15" retina doesn't cut it for running Logic Pro for me. All the UI elements are too small to work with comfortably. The 17" isn't perfect either, but it's workable.

 

[benjones]

I'm gonna add to this. 4K is not in use yet world wide... So just like TB, its not gonna be used on the mass-market...

Only those that need it, and have 4K displays, which arn;'t that many, not to mention content wise.

Apple is sure looking to the future for this, but before it gets there, several new Mac Pros will be out anyway, with better features, while retaining the 4k, so you may as well wait till then if 4K is important.

Plus, 4K will be make more sense..

Its too early now..

It has nothing to do with available content. This isn't a TV, projector or AVR we are talking about. It's a laptop. 4K would be perfect in that we could run 1200p HiDPI pixel doubled. That would mean great performance, great scaling and perfect sized workspace/UI elements.

I'm not saying 4K is going to happen though.

Well that would put them in the September time frame.

You do realise Q3 starts in July and ends in September right?

 

[theluggage]

So, let me ask you: What would be the point in introducing a new Mac Pro with support for 4K displays and later on introducing a MacBook Pro without support for this technology?

1. The new Mac Pro isn't going to be available until "later this year". The discussion here is about whether new rMBPs will appear this summer.

2. The current Pro has 4 internal hard drives and 4 internal PCIe slots, which could already take a high-end GPU with DisplayPort 1.2 capable of running a 4k monitor. The new Pro drops all of that in favour of external TB expansion. It has to have TB2 & 4k capability for that to be credible.

TB2 and 4k in a rMBP would be 'nice to have' but isn't essential - nobody buys rMBPs for their expansion potential...

3. The Mac Pro is a niche machine (probably costing a small fortune) which will probably get off to a slow start. The rMBPs are big mainstream sellers for Apple. They can't start using TB2 chips for rMBP until they are available in quantity, probably this time next year.

So, a Haswell bump for the rMBP as soon as the CPUs are available, and a TB2 bump 6 months-1 year down the line would seem quite feasible. Meanwhile, the Mac Pro is in the shops for Xmas and has a few months in the sun as the only 4k-capable Mac.

Meanwhile, 4k screens cost an arm and a leg and aren't really worth making smaller than 30". If Apple want an external "Retina" display, just make a 20-24" 2560x1600 screen: "retina" and within the reach of existing Thunderbolt.

 

[moxxey]

I believe Thunderbolt 2 requires Intel's new Falcon Ridge controller, which won't ship until later in the year.

And, worse, won't be in volume until 2014. There's no way Apple will wait another 6 months to release Haswell MBPs.

There's no reason why Apple couldn't update the existing MBPs with Haswell and improved battery life, then another update January 2014.

The majority of us don't *need* Thunderbolt 2. I don't see this as a reason for holding out on a MBP update.

 

[olowott]

over excited , this year is looking real good for we apple users

 

[DHagan4755]

One potential explanation comes from a late April note from Kuo in which he suggested that updated Retina MacBook Pro models may not ship for some time after WWDC due to production bottlenecks on the displays used in the machines.

What?! Is there is a newer type of retina display in the works? Because what would create a production bottleneck in the displays if they are using the same displays as before?

Is Apple switching from 16:10 to 16:9 displays?

IGZO?

Curious.

 

[kazmac]

As many have said

The release track that many have said based on previous years could be a possibility:

iMac and maybe Mac Mini updates in July. I do not see rMBPs being released so soon after especially since the Apple folks made such a big deal about OS Mavericks' power usage and battery life, better frame rate, scrolling performance etc. they may just wait.

iDevices - September

Mac Pro, rMBP and OS Mavericks in the Fall.

 

[devilcm3]

What?! Is there is a newer type of retina display in the works? Because what would create a production bottleneck in the displays if they are using the same displays as before?

Is Apple switching from 16:10 to 16:9 displays?

IGZO?

Curious.

it could be just a new revision of display panels, Samsung colours arent as great as LG while LG still have issues in their panels (ghosting, etc)

Nope, i don't think so ... the new MBA still retains its ratio.

 

[polymersayb]

And, worse, won't be in volume until 2014. There's no way Apple will wait another 6 months to release Haswell MBPs.

There's no reason why Apple couldn't update the existing MBPs with Haswell and improved battery life, then another update January 2014.

The majority of us don't *need* Thunderbolt 2. I don't see this as a reason for holding out on a MBP update.

Exactly. I don't know why we're freaking out about TB2 over here.

Besides, even the current rMBP can drive a 4K display, albeit poorly. From what I understand, the Haswell dGPU has some sort of optimization for pushing 4K video out to the display that works fine with TB1. You only need TB2 if you want to display and transfer 4K video simultaneously. Which a lot of us don't need to do and definitely don't need to wait 6 months for.

 

[217833]

I'm gonna guess Apple is waiting for Thunderbolt 2 to be available on the MBP.

So new MBP with potential 4K output around the same time OSX 10.9 is released.

Yep, another good reason to use OS X Mavericks to use an 4K TV (Apple TV?) as a secondary display

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The release track that many have said based on previous years could be a possibility:

iMac and maybe Mac Mini updates in July. I do not see rMBPs being released so soon after especially since the Apple folks made such a big deal about OS Mavericks' power usage and battery life, better frame rate, scrolling performance etc. they may just wait.

iDevices - September

Mac Pro, rMBP and OS Mavericks in the Fall.

I could also see somewhere some new 4K Cinema Display

 

[pmz]

Excited for the conclusion of the non-rMBP. It will be nice to have those people finally have their last moment, and fade away into non-existence. Just like the matte screen people. It will be so nice when they are all gone and have no reason to post anymore. Honestly I think they are worse than the paid Android trolls.

Sent from my 2011 non-rMBP. I can't wait to upgrade this awesome 15" machine to a better 15" machine that is thinner, much lighter, much faster, has a RETINA display, and also doesn't have this optical drive that I've used 6 times in 2 years.