Sorry let me clear up my point as well. I switched on you halfway through and started talking about TB2 on the rMBP rather than the ACD. Totally agree they will likely put TB2 and USB3 on the refreshed 4K ACD, but what I was saying is that TB2 isn't a requirement for the next rMBP upgrade.
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MacBook Pro Updates Still to Come, But What Can We Expect?
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Sorry let me clear up my point as well. I switched on you halfway through and started talking about TB2 on the rMBP rather than the ACD. Totally agree they will likely put TB2 and USB3 on the refreshed 4K ACD, but what I was saying is that TB2 isn't a requirement for the next rMBP upgrade.
I think he's trying to sarcastically say:
"I'm going to empty my bank account to buy this ultra expensive Mac, even though I COULD buy something similar for 3 times less that will be better for studying"
Thanks for the 3-4 personal attacks, but I will focus on your main point. If your point is the available 768gb SSD drive is insufficient for your personal workspace, or too costly, it appears the only solution that fits your use case is actually a fusion drive (or third party SSD enabled drive) in both the drive bay and the optical drive bay of a traditional MacBook Pro. With that solution you get most of the speed benefit of a SSD and all the capacity benefit of a HDD (or two). Boom.
Here, I'll spoon feed you.
CPU (1):
http://store.apple.com/us_edu_24610/configure/MD103LL/A?=
Specifications $2008
* 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB GDDR5 memory
* 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
(if third party 2x8GB is available you can leave it configured to 4GB)
http://www.micron.com/about/innovations/hmc?source=mb
http://www.micron.com/parts/dram/dd...125?pc={338582DE-C8D6-4594-91B4-B3E86A5D5374}
* 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm (convert to external)
* SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) (convert to external)
* MacBook Pro 15-inch Glossy
750 GB (2):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148940
1000 GB (2):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-178-340&Tpk=22-178-340
1500 GB (2): $128 each, $2264 all-in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236445
If Apple gives the traditional MacBookPro a (silent) Haswell update that would be very good since it is their biggest seller still. So much for legacy media and ports being dead.
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Me too, I want a 17 inch screen and will just keep using this one until it breaks. And then I might even have it repaired, if at all possible, rather than buying a 15 inch. It would probably be several years before I would consider the 15 inch retina to replace it. But if Apple releases a new 17 inch retina, I'll be on the Apple Store website ordering it straight away.
That didn't even occur to me. Before the Mac Pro reveal, I would have scoffed at that notion.
Now...? Hmm...
Mr. Ive, What do you think?
Consider overpaying for the current out-of-date MacBook Pro CPU & GPU?
Considering that the MacBook Air received a current CPU update, it is a shame that the MacBook Pro has not seen a similar update. In short, the MacBook Air is an inferior laptop line than the MacBook Pro. However, how can Apple ignore the MacBook Pro? Basically, this means that those that are interested in buying the current MacBook Pro will overpay for outdated technology. If there is no update coming for the Pro, the Pro has to cost significantly less than the price of the updated MacBook Air. Wouldn't you agree?
Considering that the MacBook Air received a current CPU update, it is a shame that the MacBook Pro has not seen a similar update. In short, the MacBook Air is an inferior laptop line than the MacBook Pro. However, how can Apple ignore the MacBook Pro? Basically, this means that those that are interested in buying the current MacBook Pro will overpay for outdated technology. If there is no update coming for the Pro, the Pro has to cost significantly less than the price of the updated MacBook Air. Wouldn't you agree?
Considering that the MacBook Air received a current CPU update, it is a shame that the MacBook Pro has not seen a similar update. In short, the MacBook Air is an inferior laptop line than the MacBook Pro. However, how can Apple ignore the MacBook Pro? Basically, this means that those that are interested in buying the current MacBook Pro will overpay for outdated technology. If there is no update coming for the Pro, the Pro has to cost significantly less than the price of the updated MacBook Air. Wouldn't you agree?
Just because it's 'outdated' doesn't mean it's obsolete and now totally useless.
It's still a significantly more powerful machine than the refreshed Macbook Air, if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it.
I Believe the Haswell rMBP will arrive redesigned with TB2, IGZO, pci SSD &802.11ac, and will arrive at the same time the new Mac pro its available (Q4 not earlier), and as rumoured may have no HDMI port at all.
Considering that the MacBook Air received a current CPU update, it is a shame that the MacBook Pro has not seen a similar update. In short, the MacBook Air is an inferior laptop line than the MacBook Pro. However, how can Apple ignore the MacBook Pro? Basically, this means that those that are interested in buying the current MacBook Pro will overpay for outdated technology. If there is no update coming for the Pro, the Pro has to cost significantly less than the price of the updated MacBook Air. Wouldn't you agree?
Not really. Perhaps there is more to the rMBP update than what the MBA received...I initially expected a CPU spec bump (to Haswell) in the rMBP's, but with no announcement coming at WWDC, then I can only assume that there is something a bit more coming to the rMBP line that didn't have it ready for a June announcement. That said, I do expect something announced by the end of August, or at least refreshed without an event. Just an assumption, and an optimistic one at that.
EDIT: I don't think Thunderbolt 2 is the hold up either, particularly since that won't roll out until late 2013/early 2014.
This actually makes simplistic and obvious sense. The power-saving tech in Mav goes hand-in-hand with Haswell.
There were reports on shortages for the displays used in the 15" rMBP that a few of the analysts were saying would push them to late June/early July where they would also do a minor refresh for the Haswell iMac.
They won't want to miss the "Back to School" season for the launch of new MacBook Pros.
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I really hope we see new rMBPs before August. I've already been waiting for a while and not seeing even a peep at WWDC was really a disappointment. The money is burning a hole in my pocket but I'm patiently waiting for the new ones and not being tempted by current generation. GIVE US THE NEW RMBPS NOW APPLE!!
Mmmmmmmmmmmaybe. I'd like to see the 5200 Iris Pro in action to see if it's any good. Looks great on paper. Or I love the ability to either switch off the dGPU or order BTO with dGPU.
Lol, none of my last three iPads have gotten dusty... I use them. Also, saying that dust is more attracted to black is ascribing dust with intelligence. Don't be ridiculous. Dust falls equally on objects, despite color.
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I respectfully disagree... it's nice the pro version of MacBook is getting updated, but more exciting than a brand new product, at least two years in the making, 1/8 the size of a conventional desktop, made in the USA???! Umm, you must get REALLY excited over mobile Haswell, bro.
Hey, I haven't read all the comments in this thread, but I will state that it seems to me that the timing on the new Haswell rMBP products w.r.t. announcing them and having them available for purchase by consumers had better happen pretty soon, considering that Back-To-School / Off-To-College will be on top of us before you know it (weeks away).
My suspicion is that the Back-To-School / Off-To-College market is the market in which parents are most willing to spend big bucks on the best rMBP out there for Johnny / Susie heading off to college.
That is not a market that the MacBook group within Apple wants to have decide to fail-over to the cheaper MBA simply because the MBA has been refreshed recently and the MBP has not.
BMA57
My suspicion is that the Back-To-School / Off-To-College market is the market in which parents are most willing to spend big bucks on the best rMBP out there for Johnny / Susie heading off to college.
That is not a market that the MacBook group within Apple wants to have decide to fail-over to the cheaper MBA simply because the MBA has been refreshed recently and the MBP has not.
BMA57
Imagine if Apple had 3 conferences a year.
WWDC
Media Event (software related talks)
And a big early fall event where they release a new of every Mac and iDevice at once.
WWDC
Media Event (software related talks)
And a big early fall event where they release a new of every Mac and iDevice at once.
I'm hoping they do. Seems they are more willing to anodize things in higher price ranges now (first it was the iPhone/iPad mini, now it looks like iPad and Mac Pro are getting the treatment, so MBP can't be far behind).
I'd be all over a black-anodized rMBP.
Should i have waited
i bought a refurbished RMBP a little more than a month ago. I'm hoping the rMBP updates will not reflect too much of a paradigm shift. What kind of updates would be worth reselling my mac to get my hands on?
i bought a refurbished RMBP a little more than a month ago. I'm hoping the rMBP updates will not reflect too much of a paradigm shift. What kind of updates would be worth reselling my mac to get my hands on?
You forgot the people still clamoring for a 17" too.
If I need to do critical graphics work, I'll be at my desk with the 27" display. Otherwise give me the most computer in the smallest package. That means a quad-core 13".
In other words, 15" is the new 17"
I must say it's almost as bad as the number of people begging for there to be a 5.7" iPhone....
You forgot the people still clamoring for a 17" too.
If I need to do critical graphics work, I'll be at my desk with the 27" display. Otherwise give me the most computer in the smallest package. That means a quad-core 13".
In other words, 15" is the new 17"
I know it's hard to imagine that there are people with different needs than you. Maybe every time I need to create motion graphics or use ProPresenter away from home, I can pay to ship a 27" display around the country just so I can function in my hotel room. If I always used a display for work, I wouldn't need a MacBookPro, now would I?
It's all about the Nostradamus approach. Make enough predictions and some are bound to come true then you look like it was more than a good guess.
It's easy to assume they're going to update laptops when they haven't been for a while and new technology is out there. Same with Airports and Mac Pro.
I in dealing with plenty of friends within Apple, they find it hilarious to watch these sites and see the throw **** at the wall and see what sticks approach.