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robotx21 said:
I believe the new macbook pro merom's will be .1-.3 inches thicker, and POSSIBLY incorporate a new blu-ray DVD burner, 160GB HD, ATI X1800 Graphics card, and improved display to 1920X1200 for 17". I believe this to be true based on the information gathered from brenthaven's website, showing the 12/15 pro case that is out of stock is 1/4" thicker in the space needed to hold the macbook. The only reason for this is if they know "something" we don't...such as a thicker machine. Also, they are coming out around the 26th-30th. Maybe? what do you guys think?

I hope so. that or the GeForce Go 7900 GTX or 7800. also same options for 15.4"
 
Multimedia said:
Internal Sony 5.25" ATAPI EIDE Blu-ray Drives Cost $750 At Fry's. So an internal mobile Blue-ray probably cost over $1,000. Plus I agree with all of the above. It's too soon. Blu-ray blank media is incredibly expensive - Prohibitively so - almost $1/GB - IE about $50 per 50GB and $25 per 25GB Blu-ray blank.

Conventional Single Sided DVD blanks are down to about 5¢/GB. I'd say that's a fairly large MEDIA COST GAP that only time will reduce. Until then, we've got quite a wait until the professionals drive up demand to the point where prosumers can rationalize a higher price of <20¢/GB or so - IE where the $1.50 price of 8.5GB Dual Layer DVDs is now - about $10 per 50GB and $5 per 25GB Blu-ray blank. Make sense? Or do any of you see it another way?

your wrong. I live in LA. there are alot of tv and movie people here who would love to be able to get a mac pro tower with one of these. not have to install it themselves. instead buy it from apple and get apple quality, warranty and support
 
prady16 said:
Therz a real good chance of that happening. Either a 12" notebook or a slimmer version of the mbp. the 12" powerbook was a huge hit, so they might bring it back in their line!


why do people still bring this up, Apple has said they have no future plans for a 12in/13in MBP the 12in PB was replaced by the Blackbook
 
Apologies For Not Knowing Only Old iPods Were Offered On That Ed Deal

oneighturbo said:
hey now, lame short sitedness :( anyways you only get the choice of a 30/60GB with edu discount.

and in the end, $120 is better for my wallet ;)
I'm sorry. I should have researched what iPods you had to choose from. You did the right thing. My Bad.
 
Clydefrog said:
why do people still bring this up, Apple has said they have no future plans for a 12in/13in MBP the 12in PB was replaced by the Blackbook
Agree. What those people should really be asking for is either a 10"-11" 'MacBook mini' or a black MacBook with dedicated graphics.

OT: It should be possible to ask for a MacBook with an nVidia chip, shouldn't it? Heck, even mobile phones can come with 3D chips these days... (well, running OpenGL ES that is, e.g. the Falanx Mali - now acquired by ARM)
 
I Totally Agree Apple Should Be Offering $750 Sony Blu-ray Drives BTO

mdntcallr said:
your wrong. I live in LA. there are alot of tv and movie people here who would love to be able to get a mac pro tower with one of these. not have to install it themselves. instead buy it from apple and get apple quality, warranty and support
I'm not wrong. Just misinterpreted due to different post. In another Post, I mentioned I couldn"t understand why Apple wasn't offering them already. Can you?
 
mdntcallr said:
I don't get people's excitement over Santa Rosa. It is really a cpu for slim mini laptops. not a more desktop replacement model. it also has some more basic functions.

ie, the way i read the specs are that it is for macbook type, but higher end ones will use a better one. dunno


Santa Rosa is NOT a cpu for anything. It is scheduled to replace the current Napa platform / chipset early next year as I recall - will probably start off with the Merom cpu and then move to...
 
mdntcallr said:
dude, you are wanting the wrong optional card. TOTALLY WRONG.
We want the option of this high end mobile card GeForce Go 7900 GTX 256 -512

this card is the best in market.

Dude we are being realistic, we all know Apple undershoots in the graphics department, always.
 
I'm Not Willing To Spend A Lot For 2GB Sticks

ergle2 said:
Unless you want to buy a very expensive Notebook, it's not cheaper...

Current 2GB PC-5300 DDR2 SO-DIMMs retail around $1600-1700 each, so a pair would cost more than a second MBP with 2GB would...
Yeah I'm not willing to pay that much for RAM and will stick to two 1GB sticks in my 17" with easy acces HD or C2D MB if MBP not HD access friendly.
 
Multimedia said:
I'm not wrong. Just misinterpreted due to different post. In another Post, I mentioned I couldn"t understand why Apple wasn't offering them already. Can you?

i agree. I believe it is the time for Mac Pro's to have it as BTO. definitely!

also would be a very welcome BTO for high end 15 and 17" MBP.

apple needs to prove they are on the cutting edge again. both for this and GPU

we know apple is never on cutting edge due to maintaining a profit margin. but with BTO, they ought to give us the ability to pay a lil more and get it.
 
I think apple will come out with atleast an underclocked 7600GT or 7900GT in the MBP, They might surprise us with a 7900GTX, but I think that is highly unlikley. I mean they can't even put in a x1600 in with normal clock speeds.
 
Clydefrog said:
I think apple will come out with atleast an underclocked 7600GT or 7900GT in the MBP, They might surprise us with a 7900GTX, but I think that is highly unlikley. I mean they can't even put in a x1600 in with normal clock speeds.

But when :) I am keeping a cautious eye on this Tuesday with next week's Photokina being at the limits of my waiting.

The really frightening thing is that I am going to have to go through all of this again in selecting a 1080p projector. New models are rolling out at CEDIA, lots of different technologies with +/-, wide price ranges, decisions, decisions.
 
mdntcallr said:
I don't get people's excitement over Santa Rosa. It is really a cpu for slim mini laptops. not a more desktop replacement model. it also has some more basic functions.

ie, the way i read the specs are that it is for macbook type, but higher end ones will use a better one. dunno

You've misread, I think.

Santa Rosa is the new platform to replace Napa.

It consists of Merom, at least some versions of which will have an 800MHz FSB, Crestline (965 Express Chipset, optionally with the x3000 series integrated graphics) and Kedron (new wifi, 802.11n probably).

I believe memory speed stays at 667MHz, at least according to the last Intel spec-sheet I read.

It will also use the ICH-8M for USB/SATA/PCI-E, etc.

Perhaps the most interesting is the expected inclusion of "Robson" flash memory caching technology which should speed up certain operations.

I would expect Santa Rosa to be used for both MacBook and MBP. Note that there are generally a variety of low-end to high-end varients within a single platform definition.

I believe Crestline is expected to be on a small process than the current i945/946 chipset which should provide for lowered power usage, too.

Santa Rosa is somewhat interesting, but it's all essentially evolutionary, outside of Robson.

Much like the jump of Napa over Yonah (aka Napa->Napa64), the improvements are moderate for the most part with occasional huge jumps (say, the SSE performance in certain contexts on Merom benching ~220% of the speed of Yonah).

At some point Merom will probably be replaced by Penryn, which is just Merom on a smaller process (45nm, I think) with more L2 cache (3-6meg, depending on price-point, vs 2-4meg now) and perhaps other minor improvements.
 
mdntcallr said:
I hope so. that or the GeForce Go 7900 GTX or 7800. also same options for 15.4"

I think a Go 7700 is more likely. Won't be the 7800, the 7900 uses less power due to it moving to a smaller process (110nm->90nm). Go 7700 is the first to use the 80nm process for nVidia and should use less power than even the X1600 for a quite decent speed increase.
 
It is my sincere hope that the MBP's will see a quiet upgrade this tuesday, similar to how they did the iMacs on the 6th.

Why am I so hopeful? Will I rush out to buy a MBP? No, no, no, I have a 3 month old Blackbook that is "practically perfect in every way".

I want Apple to update the MBP's so we can put a stop to these endless and countless "When will they update the MBP?" threads and the "Should I buy or wait?" threads and get on to something more interesting.

Like the "Grrrr, they didn't update the MBP just the way I wanted it !" threads :p
 
Multimedia said:
Yeah I'm not willing to pay that much for RAM and will stick to two 1GB sticks in my 17" with easy acces HD or C2D MB if MBP not HD access friendly.

2GB total will do me fine -- I'm used to running half a gig so it'll be luxury by comparison.

The easy-HD access is nice but not that important to me. None of the MacBook plusses (magnetic latch, etc.) are. The black model looks nice but I'm not paying a premium for a different colored case. I'm cheap like that.

What I would like is a higher res LCD panel tho' -- just not enough to move up to the bigger/heavier 17" ... hell, I'd even prefer the MBP to be 14" rather than the 15" it is (yeah, I know that ain't gonna happen).
 
dsnort said:
It is my sincere hope that the MBP's will see a quiet upgrade this tuesday, similar to how they did the iMacs on the 6th.

Why am I so hopeful? Will I rush out to buy a MBP? No, no, no, I have a 3 month old Blackbook that is "practically perfect in every way".

I want Apple to update the MBP's so we can put a stop to these endless and countless "When will they update the MBP?" threads and the "Should I buy or wait?" threads and get on to something more interesting.

Like the "Grrrr, they didn't update the MBP just the way I wanted it !" threads :p

these "Should I buy or wait?" threads will never stop, considering there are already threads for people waiting for intel's next platform, Santa Rosa which will enable merom to run at 800mhz on the fsb instead of 667 and lots of other cool stuff. Soon before that is released people will be talking about penryn, the shrinking of the merom from 65 nm to 45nm. What i believe is why wait for santa rosa after the merom release? Just buy the damn thing. Because if you plan on waiting again you'll probably never buy a macbook pro because you'll be too busy watching and waiting for technology advance. I just hope we will have merom macbook pros buy the 25th or possibly the 19th.The only thing that would hold me back from buying the merom macbook pro would be if it doesn't support 4gb of ram. I would wait for santa rosa if that's the case.
 
dsnort said:
It is my sincere hope that the MBP's will see a quiet upgrade this tuesday, similar to how they did the iMacs on the 6th.

Why am I so hopeful? Will I rush out to buy a MBP? No, no, no, I have a 3 month old Blackbook that is "practically perfect in every way".

I want Apple to update the MBP's so we can put a stop to these endless and countless "When will they update the MBP?" threads and the "Should I buy or wait?" threads and get on to something more interesting.

Like the "Grrrr, they didn't update the MBP just the way I wanted it !" threads :p

Then will come the "when are they going to update to Santa Rosa thread?!" It's just going to keep happening, and happening, over and over. Don't expect it to stop once C2D is in the MBP. It's a vicious, vicious cycle.:)
 
macman2790 said:
does anyone think that the merom mbp will support 4gb of ram since the new imac only supports 3gb?

The chipset supports more memory, it's a different motherboard, I wouldn't take the new iMac capabilities being defining for anything else.
 
macman2790 said:
does anyone think that the merom mbp will support 4gb of ram since the new imac only supports 3gb?
considering it's an imac and not a promac, its possible- however I'm not sure. Ask steve :D
 
so does the current chipset but people are saying that intel disabled that feature for some reason. As in putting 2x2gb sticks in should work but for some reason they aren't compatible
 
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