MacBook Pro Upgrade At Photokina?

[ckodonnell]

I think there will be a long line for that.

If this mbp is not out by dec 06'........ I just may teabag stevie boy

 

[Surf and Turf]

It's the day businesses go "into the black" (vs into the red).

ok now i am really confused...Red as in American Indians?😕

 

[Surf and Turf]

ok i will stop being a memron...oh mean moron..J/K🙂

 

[Surf and Turf]

What is up with this wait...I mean come on,😱 is stevie getting reverse cowboy rides from his marketing dept...cause the r&d should be done by now for the chip ^grade. Unless he is getting the old wheelbarrel from his strategy dept.
Either way it seems like he is enjoying the ride.

 

[Multimedia]

Should Happen In October

Sweet. I leave for India on the 13th of November. There goes my argument to mgmt to get Macs for us instead of PC's. Yay. Now I have to live with a Dell again for 2 years.

Wait a dog gone minute ck. I wrote WORST CASE. It is more likely to be in October in time for your purchase. I'll be surprised if it isn't in the next 4 weeks sometime. So stick with your plan. 🙂

 

[absurdio]

Selling hardware?

To those of you who are veterans at selling your hardware (Multimedia, IO Burn, i'm lookin' at you guys), I'd like to pose a couple of questions (I've no experience with this sort of endeavor at all):
1) What's the best outlet for selling these things? ebay? craigslist? something else?
2) On a scale from one to terrible, how bad an idea would it be to get a Yonah MBP soon, use it for x weeks, months whatever until Merom comes out, and then try to sell it. i mention that not because i especially WANT to give in to the present line of mbps, but because, as i've said, i'm keeping apple waiting, and i may have no choice BUT to act now. So i'm interested in what my prospects would be, what my losses would be, and what configuration i ought to order if i am, in all liklihood, going to sell the machine as soon as merom mbps come out, anyhow.

Thanks, folks.

 

[Surf and Turf]

To those of you who are veterans at selling your hardware (Multimedia, IO Burn, i'm lookin' at you guys), I'd like to pose a couple of questions (I've no experience with this sort of endeavor at all):
1) What's the best outlet for selling these things? ebay? craigslist? something else?
2) On a scale from one to terrible, how bad an idea would it be to get a Yonah MBP soon, use it for x weeks, months whatever until Merom comes out, and then try to sell it. i mention that not because i especially WANT to give in to the present line of mbps, but because, as i've said, i'm keeping apple waiting, and i may have no choice BUT to act now. So i'm interested in what my prospects would be, what my losses would be, and what configuration i ought to order if i am, in all liklihood, going to sell the machine as soon as merom mbps come out, anyhow.

Thanks, folks.

imo i think you would be taking a hit finacially cause the current mbp will most likely drop in price and to sell it after the fact ...well would be a challenge. Unless you are willing to take a (70-80)% sell value

 

[famarm]

Wait a dog gone minute ck. I wrote WORST CASE. It is more likely to be in October in time for your purchase. I'll be surprised if it isn't in the next 4 weeks sometime. So stick with your plan. 🙂

Multimedia I love all yours positive posts...

😉 😉 😉

 

[hartog]

I'm already resigned to waiting for the Santa Rosa with Leopard model at this point because my need is stronger for the 8-core Dual Clovertown Mac Pro first. So I'm on the sidelines here now but still happy to share and hold hands.

The longer it takes for the new MBP, I tend to agree on the SR with Leopard model as well. However I can not estimate what the gain of the faster FSB of Santa Rosa (800MHz) wrt the old 667MHz will mean in real life.

Professionally, I work with data analysis transferring loads of data, including a lot of IO from different HDD archives. Semi-professionally I would need PS and Lightroom or Aperture 😉 for my photography (www.peterdenhartog.com).

For both I see the benefits of the faster FSB, but could someone estimate the gain when using the same processor (i.e. simply the effect of the FSB)?

Cheers

Peter

 

[ergle2]

The longer it takes for the new MBP, I tend to agree on the SR with Leopard model as well. However I can not estimate what the gain of the faster FSB of Santa Rosa (800MHz) wrt the old 667MHz will mean in real life.

Small... maybe 3-5% for most apps.

Take a look at this Xbit labs article for more insight. It's about mem speeds, but contains some good stuff about how FSBs can affect systems, too.

 

[Multimedia]

Second New Intel Core 2 Duo Ad Appears On Letterman This Evening

Very groovy bed. Hip Hop Female Rapper says:
"I can give you what you want
I can make your heart beat short
I can make you ice cream
Make it be sweet tea
Melting in your ice cream
I can give you what you want"

Female voice over:
"Multiply your possabilities
Introducing Intel Core 2 Duo
The World's Best Processors"

Actual performance may vary. See intel.com/performance footnote

Intel Audio Logo over the animated morph to the C2D Badge

Also frames with "Multiply Your Computing Power" over the guy in yellow are in there but the 5 upload limit kept me from showing you those.

Here it is kids:

 

[shiv]

😱

 

[Reach]

It's actually very good that Intel pushes C2D like this, as it raises awareness and forces Apples hand to a certain extent. THe more Intel pushes C2d, the more people know about it, and the worse Apples CD PRO-notebooks seem.

 

[CarmineM]

About to switch and waiting for MBP upgrade

Hi to everyone,

I'm new to Mac world, and was thinking about replacing my Acer1501LMI with a MBP 15"4, well untill I came to know the problem it had (or has) and until rumors start talking about possible upgrades.

I've been following this thread from the start and saw that most "needs" seem focused only on the Merom upgrade.

I think switch to Merom is an important thing, but considering the actual features of the MBP I'd like more to see:

1. FW800 on all the MBP line
2. Easily swappable HD
3. Cooler behaviour
4. Merom upgrade

Some mentioned also the need for a Expresscard/54 over the actual 34 one. Which is the difference? Why having the /54 would be better?

Regards,
Carmine

 

[ColeSear]

For me, a big wish would be PC-Card for a direct input for Panasonic's P2-Card System of the Panasonic AG-HVX200. But well... I can also live without that.
So for me as a Mac-Newbie, C2D in MBP this year is right enough.

 

[hartog]

Small... maybe 3-5% for most apps.

Take a look at this Xbit labs article for more insight. It's about mem speeds, but contains some good stuff about how FSBs can affect systems, too.

Thanks a lot for that link. Now I want a MBP with AMD 😀

I need to learn more on the pros and cons of the faster FSB and perhaps other features before I can decide to upgrade now or with the new platform...

Peter

 

[ergle2]

Thanks a lot for that link. Now I want a MBP with AMD 😀

I need to learn more on the pros and cons of the faster FSB and perhaps other features before I can decide to upgrade now or with the new platform...

Peter

You really don't. The Core 2 Duo systems beat anything AMD has to offer right now in overall performance, and do so quite handily. 🙂

As for the new platform, I don't consider Santa Rosa worth waiting for if the Merom-based MBPs launch soon.

The FSB will give you a small speed boost, the IO is slightly improved, Robson (flashmem cache) will probably make the biggest difference to most people, esp if your apps hit VM a lot.

Overall, tho', it's all incremental... and you can wait forever... 🙂

I mean, Penryn will debut the SSE4 instructions and that's probably only a year away... <G>

 

[Multimedia]

Expresscard/54 Would Allow Us The Full Choice Among All Expresscard Options

Some mentioned also the need for a Expresscard/54 over the actual 34 one. Which is the difference? Why having the /54 would be better?

Well it's not a deal breaker, but if we had Expresscard/54 in the 17" model where there could be room made for it, it would just allow for more expansion choices among all of the Expresscards instead of limiting us to only the 34mm cards. 34mm cards fit in the 54mm slot as well as all the 54mm cards do.

 

[ergle2]

Some mentioned also the need for a Expresscard/54 over the actual 34 one. Which is the difference? Why having the /54 would be better?

Regards,
Carmine

Physical size. One is 34mm wide, the other 54mm.

The larger card size is allowed, by spec, to dissipate more heat.

Other than that, no difference. They use the same connector internally, the 54mm cards being an odd shape that is 34mm wide at the connector end and "bulges" out halfway or so along to be 54mm at the other end.

 

[hartog]

You really don't. The Core 2 Duo systems beat anything AMD has to offer right now in overall performance, and do so quite handily. 🙂

As for the new platform, I don't consider Santa Rosa worth waiting for if the Merom-based MBPs launch soon.

The FSB will give you a small speed boost, the IO is slightly improved, Robson (flashmem cache) will probably make the biggest difference to most people, esp if your apps hit VM a lot.

Overall, tho', it's all incremental... and you can wait forever... 🙂

I mean, Penryn will debut the SSE4 instructions and that's probably only a year away... <G>

Thanks again. Right, so the overall performance is of cource what counts, not only the memory access. I think you are right, it seems not worth to wait for 5 Months or so for this little step.

Back to the topic: Where are these MBPs with Merom??? 😀

Peter

 

[Multimedia]

Expresscard/54 Can Have More Ports On It

Physical size. One is 34mm wide, the other 54mm.

The larger card size is allowed, by spec, to dissipate more heat.

Other than that, no difference. They use the same connector internally, the 54mm cards being an odd shape that is 34mm wide at the connector end and "bulges" out halfway or so along to be 54mm at the other end.

The 54mm cards allow more than one port to be on a card. For example there is a 54mm card that has TWO FW800 ports on it.

 

[ergle2]

The 54mm cards allow more than one port to be on a card. For example there is a 54mm card that has TWO FW800 ports on it.

Yeah, I know. I figured that was a given, based on the fact they were wider 😉

Stuff like the spec allowing the wider cards to be hotter's not so obvious. I guess I'm used to writing for a highly technical audience, so I don't always go into every detail. 🙂

I wouldn't have replied if your response to the same Q had been there when I looked... too late was the cry!

 

[anim8or]

Thanks for caring.

I'd live with the Yonah if I bought it today and the Meroms came out tomorrow. But if they came with a brand new beautiful design.... I would certainly kick myself... hard.

These are my feelings exactly, i am getting quite anxious as to when the new MBPs will arrive and as is said above its not the chip that sets it apart from the current MBPs its the fact i dont want to spend all that money on something that will be obsolete in processor AND design only a matter of days or weeks later.

Does anyone actually have a solid piece of info on these rumors or are we all just speculating profusely!

I havent seen any "a friend at apple" or "my source at intel" post in ages (not that they can entirely be trusted!!)

 

[CarmineM]

Well it's not a deal breaker, but if we had Expresscard/54 in the 17" model where there could be room made for it, it would just allow for more expansion choices among all of the Expresscards instead of limiting us to only the 34mm cards. 34mm cards fit in the 54mm slot as well as all the 54mm cards do.

Then, for my needs, expresscard/34 is more than optimal 🙂

I do agree that reading macrumors leads to insanity 🙂

Found an offer here, in Italy, on a 15"4 MBP with 1G RAM, 100G HD, X1600 256MB for as low as 1990 euros VAT included. Considering 89 euros for a 3yrs warranty extension (which includes accidental damage, send and return...).

Pretty hard to wait!

 

[anim8or]

You know iv been thinking.....

after reading this forum for a while now and waiting for a new MBP, i have come across many many a post from fellow 'waiters' giving up and buying MBPs now.

All i can say is this has got to be a good thing because apple are wanting to get rid of any unsold Yonah MBPs and these people are doing everyone a favour.

I just feel sorry for those who would benefit from C2D MBPs who have now succombed to purchasing Yonah.

Apple - the master of the waiting game!