The keyboard, touch bar and USBC only ports are not an issue but an improvement for most. No one cares about soldered components. They just want their products to work as advertised. Sorry.
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MacBook Pro Users Express Concerns About Limited Battery Life
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I agree with you on extensions, urls and the Apple only thing.well my list of annoyances with safari are too big to use it as my main browser
- does not show URLs (seriously?)
- missing extensions
- rendering problems
- only works in apple devices, same crap as IE on M$ side
- etc
Agree 100%. I was attempting to resolve an issue in Sierra by draining my battery a few times, watching a video in Safari was drawing around 8 watts of power. Watching the same video in Firefox was up around 13 watts (exact values escape me now). This was on a fresh install, max display and keyboard brightness.
Chrome is written for speed. Speed = more CPU, more CPU = faster battery drain. Simple.
Just been sitting here, chatting, watching the power drop. Had a few apps open, but not doing anything... less than 2 hours to drop 70%!!
Incidentally, I'm not connected to any peripherals or gaming!...
well my list of annoyances with safari are too big to use it as my main browser
- does not show URLs (seriously?)
- missing extensions
- rendering problems
- only works in apple devices, same crap as IE on M$ side
- etc
You can remove the first point from your list by going to Safari Preferences > Advanced and checking "Show full website address".
For the money people are spending on these... a reasonable person would expect to be able to use any internet browser they want to and have it last to within a reasonable amount of time that Apple states in their marketing. Of course "test conditions" are always going to be optimal and in favor of the device... but come on...
One user on this thread said they are also having issues with battery life and they aren't running Chrome. But even if they were... its a $2k machine... you should be able to
One user on this thread said they are also having issues with battery life and they aren't running Chrome. But even if they were... its a $2k machine... you should be able to
Preferences -> Advanced -> Smart Search Field Show Full Website Addresswell my list of annoyances with safari are too big to use it as my main browser
- does not show URLs (seriously?)
oops Daniel got there first
Unfortunately MacRumors chose multiple, poor examples of this problem. I don't use Chrome or external displays. I've had my 13" tMBP for well over a week. There's no indexing, etc. I set it up as new - no migration. I haven't been able to get anything more than 7 hours of web browsing usage while using Safari. I do have Slack open. I also use Adguard and Safari's built-in Flash blocker. It's pretty much basic math - higher wattage CPU, additional SOC to support the Touch Bar, the Touch Bar itself and a significantly smaller batter. The non-TB version has a larger batter, lower water CPU, no additional SOC and obviously no Touch Bar. So it makes sense that that model gets the reported 10 hours of usage. As to why there's so many people on this thread blaming the user for using Chrome, Migration Assistant when setting up or '3rd party' applications on a daily basis is perplexing. This machine just can't meet the reported battery life Apple claims.
That's what I just did. 2015 i7 with 16 GB, 500 SSD, and AppleCare for 2 more years for 2K. No brainer.
To all of you saying the battery life is fine, does this really look right to you to be happening right after a restart? Heck just two days ago I had 75% battery left and decided to test and see how long it would play a standard 1080p video on Youtube (yes in Safari). Well I came back later too find it had died 1 hour and 10 minutes into the video. My brightness was at 60% and I only had Word open in the background.
The put out a book for $300, isn't that about the same?
They are working on the next MBP to be even thinner, then we'll have MBP bendgate.
I'm half kidding...
[doublepost=1480808479][/doublepost]I guess I'll stick with my 2009 MBP and $100 Chromebook -which is fantastic, by the way gets great battery life, has real ports, and is super lightweight.
Take that Apple! Fix your janky OS and hardware!
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It doesn't seem wrong, because the estimate right after a restart won't be accurate. For one thing, there's a whole lot of activity that happens with startup itself (loading the OS), and for a while after startup (loading all your extensions and processes, syncing cloud drives, indexing, and so forth).
I would wait 10-15 minutes while doing whatever you do on the computer before getting a more accurate estimate (and it's still just an estimate that will change depending on what you're doing).
Battery life is not important for me but good job with the inaccurate assumption. It just wasn't worth the asking price and if you read my post history I had serious graphical issues. Screen tearing and jittering. That shouldn't happen on a brand-new machine.
Nobody ever from any brand or any device. Advertised battery life is not based on someone multitasking between their ten social media apps and notifications.
1. Every review I've seen has said the keyboard is worse or that you have to try hard to get used to it.
2. Lots of people care about upgrading.
3. The problem is that they DON'T work as advertised, that's the problem. These MBP's are a steaming pile of expensive crap.
4. The only ones that should be "sorry" is Apple and the people that wasted money on this garbage. I won't be giving Apple any more money until they get serious about computing again.
They crap on themselves. If you read some comments, you'd see that these machines are underperforming.
I guess if Eddy Cue was in charge, you'd have a different opinion.
well my list of annoyances with safari are too big to use it as my main browser
- does not show URLs (seriously?)
- missing extensions
- rendering problems
- only works in apple devices, same crap as IE on M$ side
- etc
Schedule a genius bar appointment and they'll show you how to open Safari preferences and check the box to show full URLs.
Safari works great for me. Zero problems and very efficient with respect to battery life, as opposed to Chrome.