I'd love to be able to pay 'up to' a certain amount on a pro-rated basis of how close actual performance typically reaches the advertiser's claimed 'up to' amounts.
EDIT: made a mess of this first time around
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I'd love to be able to pay 'up to' a certain amount on a pro-rated basis of how close actual performance typically reaches the advertiser's claimed 'up to' amounts.
EDIT: made a mess of this first time around
That video was well done and fair as in no agenda to blast Apple. The guy highlighted the good parts and pointed out the bad parts.
I can live with taking ports away and would use a dock, dongles whatever.
No magsafe is a bad decision
No SD slot is a bad decision for those who need that . Nothing "cumbersome" about it.
No upgradeability is a bad decision. For those who wouldn't not an issue, but for those who want to no options.
Touch bar, for anybody using clamshell mode not of interest.
Having to order a maxed out overpriced version is a bad decision, when we already know the next chips are around the corner.
With everything soldered these are really at least questionable as far as environmentally friendly is concerned.
(Yes, I know Apple recycles) Forcing people to get rid of all their still working peripherals to go wireless is also not environmentally friendly.
The sales numbers cannot be verified and I don't know if highest selling relates to the price or the numbers. Pent up demand of course figures into that also.
For me these are beta machines at exorbitant prices.
To come up with a flawed product like that after all these "best pipeline in 25 years" proclamations makes one wonder. It sure looks like Apple no longer wants to be in the computer business. Certainly not in "Pro" which they just seem to use as a name.
Finally, the outrage is not only on MR, it is on many specific Apple websites, independent reviewers and the posters and reporters just can't all be trolls.
WE WANT APPLE TO MAKE GREAT PRODUCTS!
That's how we got here.
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"Apple is doomed" in long-form.
I've heard this crap every which way from Sunday since 1985.
So they should be held accountable for other company's apps that are poorly written? Let me know how that works out for you...
Yep I've used a 13" model for the first time today, borrowed it in the office and hmmm. It's a very 1st gen device. The touch bar failed within about 20 minutes. Using the touch bar itself felt awkward and clunky, taking your eyes off the screen, using a context sensitive control then looking back to the screen felt disruptive. Muscle memory is key here and this felt counter intuitive. I'm sure it improves over time.
Two things that did bug and could be a deal breaker, the size of the trackpad meant constant right clicking with your palm being interpreted as a two finger tap. It drove me bonkers. In the end I moved my hand to the very edge of the trackpad which didn't feel natural or comfortable.
On the plus side the display is great and I actually liked the keyboard.
Finally the battery life was poor, 3-4 hours and I was asking for power adapter and cable. I was only using with Office, internet browser's and remote desktop'ing to several workstation.
It's all very well Apple extolling the drawbacks of a touchscreen but is anyone at Apple actually evaluating the end user experience of their HCI anymore?
Two things that did bug and could be a deal breaker, the size of the trackpad meant constant right clicking with your palm being interpreted as a two finger tap. It drove me bonkers. In the end I moved my hand to the very edge of the trackpad which didn't feel natural or comfortable.
On the plus side the display is great and I actually liked the keyboard.
Finally the battery life was poor, 3-4 hours and I was asking for power adapter and cable. I was only using with Office, internet browser's and remote desktop'ing to several workstation.
It's all very well Apple extolling the drawbacks of a touchscreen but is anyone at Apple actually evaluating the end user experience of their HCI anymore?
Oh dear me, there are none as blind as those who won't see..
There is a video review of the 15 inch MacBook Pro, has been posted in this thread about four times now, where the reviewer says he is getting 2 hours using Final Cut. Apples own software !!
I'll think about it. It's finals week and I don't have time to waste going back to the Apple Store again.
You know what though it's the first gen of a new device. It's gonna have issues. I love tech and I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. I feel like it was rushed to get out.
If they f***ed up with the battery and there is a problem they need to announce it. It's not fair on users to spend almost $4000 on a new computer with these problems.
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We have no idea what sales are like. The Shill-in-Chief said they received more online orders than ever before; this is meaningless when one recognizes that new versions of 15" retina MBPs have all been available in stores and for ordering the day they were announced. Simply review the coverage from MacRumors for earlier 15" rMBP releases. To phrase it as carefully as Schiller did could also suggest quite the opposite.
Google Chrome, a known battery hog, was listed as the only app drawing significant power. The discussion topic he posted in and others are littered with similar claims of sizeable percentage drops in mere minutes.
I'm reminded of ridiculous Facebook power drain in iOS being traced to unscrupulous... err, accidentally running video encoding in the background so the app would continue to collect data and push notifications when it was supposed to sleep.
I'm picturing Google scrambling to better conceal their spywar... err increase the efficiency of their background utilities.
You've got this backwards. If the new pro MacBooks were readily available in the stores as you state, then selling more on line than any other Macbook would be even more impressive. If the MacBooks weren't available in the stores, then you would be in better, though still speculative, position to attack PS as the liar and swindler you think him to be.
So, I was getting about 5-6 hours on my new Macbook Pro 15" with touchbar.
I tried the SMC reset, I shut off a few programs that auto started like Spotify, gfxCardStatus and Google Drive (which I rarely used)....
Now, I am getting phenomenal battery life. An hour and 40 minutes and 88% battery life, screen at 60% brightness, Outlook, Skype, iMessage and Safari with 6 tabs open doing work in cloud apps. Big difference! Battery indicator showing between 11 and 15 hours of battery left.
I tried the SMC reset, I shut off a few programs that auto started like Spotify, gfxCardStatus and Google Drive (which I rarely used)....
Now, I am getting phenomenal battery life. An hour and 40 minutes and 88% battery life, screen at 60% brightness, Outlook, Skype, iMessage and Safari with 6 tabs open doing work in cloud apps. Big difference! Battery indicator showing between 11 and 15 hours of battery left.
I wish apple would make two pro laptop machines, an ultra portable, which is what they have now, and a "workhorse" edition. The workhorse could be thicker, with bigger battery, more powerful chip(s), two ssd slots, up to 32gb ram, FireWire, Ethernet, etc.
They could certainly still make an elegant solution, but this would truly be a portable desktop. I think this is what a lot of pros want. We'd spend the money as well. I'm still with my 2012 MacBook Pro since they haven't made a user friendly upgradable machine since then. I remember when Steve Jobs introduced laptops that were easier for the consumer to upgrade. Though his machines weren't cheap, he certainly felt that getting the Mac into more hands was more important than a giant margin. They are so rich now, you'd think they could do more with the Macs
They could certainly still make an elegant solution, but this would truly be a portable desktop. I think this is what a lot of pros want. We'd spend the money as well. I'm still with my 2012 MacBook Pro since they haven't made a user friendly upgradable machine since then. I remember when Steve Jobs introduced laptops that were easier for the consumer to upgrade. Though his machines weren't cheap, he certainly felt that getting the Mac into more hands was more important than a giant margin. They are so rich now, you'd think they could do more with the Macs
^I wouldn't mind that either. I would absolutely pay for a thicker MBP with better battery life, graphics, and cooling. Or I would like to see the return of the 17" MBP.
I wish apple would make two pro laptop machines, an ultra portable, which is what they have now, and a "workhorse" edition. The workhorse could be thicker, with bigger battery, more powerful chip(s), two ssd slots, up to 32gb ram, FireWire, Ethernet, etc.
They could certainly still make an elegant solution, but this would truly be a portable desktop. I think this is what a lot of pros want. We'd spend the money as well. I'm still with my 2012 MacBook Pro since they haven't made a user friendly upgradable machine since then. I remember when Steve Jobs introduced laptops that were easier for the consumer to upgrade. Though his machines weren't cheap, he certainly felt that getting the Mac into more hands was more important than a giant margin. They are so rich now, you'd think they could do more with the Macs
Not a bad idea, like a "MacBook Executive" and a "MacBook Pro". The latter being thicker, 15+ hours of battery, heavy duty guts. Former being like the current pro that was just released.
Yeah, that 17" was way more popular than I imagined it would be. I knew several friends alone who owned them and they loved them. They were all in music and film for a living.
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Exactly! They would sell less of the thicker edition but would keep more people in their ecosystem.
I'm a web developer and use Chrome for its superior dev tools. Battery drain isn't an issue because I'm plugged in the office. When I'm not working (out of office) it's Safari 100% for me.
